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re: Thoughts on LSU game

Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:14 am to
We haven't really ran away from a conference opponent under deboer outside of the LSU game last year. I don't think they are any worse than Mizzou or South Carolina who hung with us for 4 quarters.

If we can stop them from hitting 2-3 explosive plays we should be fine, because I don't see them just grinding the ball down the field on us consistently.

We need to have an answer for Green when they get in the redzone, you can't leave him 1 on 1 because he'll win the jump ball. Other than that we just need Ty and the offense to take the yards available. He doesn't do it often, but there are 2-3 plays per game that he big game hunts when he shouldn't. It should be a fairly comfortable game, but you never know what to expect from a team playing with an interim coach
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2496 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:20 am to
In both the Mizzou and South Carolina game (both on the road) Bama was in good shape before having a really bad turnover that gave the opponent a short field and a TD. Bama needs to eliminate that and we should be fine. We don't have to worry about the crowd getting into it for the opponent since it's a home game.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:35 am to
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LSU is a bad football team but so is South Carolina. We should handle them semi-easily but I'm honestly more concerned about OU and the barn due in large part to their nightmare fuel defenses.


Outside of the Tennessee game, which was a lot closer than the final score, the reason our games are "close" even against "bad" teams like South Carolina is because we're not dominant at any phase of the game. We're good to very good in some areas, while being average to below average in others. But nothing about any aspect of our team is great, which allows even bad teams like South Carolina to hang with us for most of the game.

It's why if we make the playoffs this year I'm calling it a success and hoping another year of recruiting and the staffs development of the players will correct some of the weak areas we have from this season.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 9:59 am to
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But nothing about any aspect of our team is great


Wrong.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:38 am to
I'm all ears. What is it?
Posted by captainFid
Never apologize to barbarism
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:42 am to
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That means we're going to be asking Ty Simpson to elevate his play even further since the defensive competition is elevating too.


I'm hopeful, with two of these games being played at home, the crowd will help pickup any slack.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:46 am to
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What is it?

Depends on how you define "great." I think our QB and WRs are great. Perfect, no. Great.. YES
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 10:55 am to
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Depends on how you define "great." I think our QB and WRs are great. Perfect, no. Great.. YES


The QB is excellent, but I'm not sure he's on the level of "great". But we may have different criteria of what constitutes great. He's an individual part to a larger aspect of the team. Our offensive line is a part of our passing game and they have almost gotten Ty killed several times this season with whiffed blocks that led to huge hits that resulted in fumbles.

The passing game would be great if we had a more consistent offensive line. If the OL had done their job against USCe that game would have been a massive blowout. Yet they got their jocks handed to them all game and that game was in jeopardy when it never should have been close. When I say there's nothing great about any aspect of our team I mean in units, like the running game, the passing game (which includes the OL and their flaws), defense and special teams. Yes, we do have individual players who are elite, but we're not elite as a group in any aspect.
This post was edited on 11/4/25 at 10:59 am
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:13 am to
I didn't downvote you, but I think your expectations might be too high for college kids. If our QB and WRs aren't "great," then no college team is
Posted by JIB
Member since Sep 2013
2496 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:20 am to
If a Heisman finalst and potential #1 overall pick isn't "great" then that term is meaningless.

Generational? No. Great? Of course. 20 TDs and 1 INT is great.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11544 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:22 am to
Yeah, Alabama has a great quarterback and a top end WR corp. The problem on offense is OL and tailbacks. And the tailbacks are just average which would be good enough if the OL were any good.
Posted by stewieie
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
263 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:28 am to
The line is 9 1/2 or 10. Hard to lay that.
Posted by stewieie
Florida
Member since Feb 2020
263 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:32 am to
Line is 9 1/2 right now on Hard Rock in Florida. It was never 6 1/2
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:44 am to
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I didn't downvote you, but I think your expectations might be too high for college kids. If our QB and WRs aren't "great," then no college team is


Maybe they are. Who knows? I just relate "greatness" to players who have the ability to take over a game in spite of the team's deficiencies and will them to win. If you're old enough I'm sure you watched Derrick Thomas completely take over a game on defense and wreck entire offenses. Or Shaun Alexander, Derrick Henry or Mark Ingram putting the team on their backs and willing them to a win even though the Oline sucked blocking that day. We all should be old enough to remember Mark Ingram's performance against USCe back in 2008. We literally just got to the point where we put him in the wildcat, told the defense we were running and he ran right through them in a game where the Oline wasn't peforming so great. To me, that's greatness.

And look, Ty may pull one of those type games out this season and if he does, I'll give the young man his flowers and credit with a huge smile on my face.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 11:51 am to
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Yeah, Alabama has a great quarterback and a top end WR corp. The problem on offense is OL and tailbacks. And the tailbacks are just average which would be good enough if the OL were any good.


Yes, and getting back to my original point. The OL keeps any aspect of our offense from being "great", "elite", "superior, etc. Our passing game cannot reach it's full potential because we cannot block on a consistent basis. The USCe game should be the most obvious example. Again, if our OL could have done even a "decent" job of protecting Ty, we would have won by three TD's or more. But they couldn't, so the game stayed competitive when it shouldn't have.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83265 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:20 pm to
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The OL keeps any aspect of our offense from being "great", "elite", "superior, etc. Our passing game cannot reach it's full potential because we cannot block on a consistent basis. The USCe game should be the most obvious example. Again, if our OL could have done even a "decent" job of protecting Ty, we would have won by three TD's or more. But they couldn't, so the game stayed competitive when it shouldn't have.


Our OL is the poster child for playing down to your opponent.

They play great against teams like Georgia and Tennessee and then roll out a turd against USCe and Florida State.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24508 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:35 pm to
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The QB is excellent, but I'm not sure he's on the level of "great".

Those words mean largely the same thing

No one is saying he’s an all time great. Just that he is great. Same for our WRs.

Also you’re severely underestimating the amount of pressure that’s placed on our passing game because our run game is nonexistent. That’s the biggest reason our offense is faced with so many 3rd down attempts and 3rd and longs. Lots of other top 15 teams would be faced for 3rd and short or even a 1st down if they ran it twice. Meanwhile we’re over here facing a 3rd and 8 after 2 runs.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:39 pm to
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Our OL is the poster child for playing down to your opponent.

They play great against teams like Georgia and Tennessee and then roll out a turd against USCe and Florida State.


They didn't play great in the Missouri game either, Ty getting drilled in the back and fumbling coming out of half should have never happened. That's another game that I felt if the Oline had been able to perform better we should have won by multiple td's. Our defense bottled up Hardy all game, frustrated their QB, but we could only muster 10 points in the second half.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1404 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:45 pm to
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Also you’re severely underestimating the amount of pressure that’s placed on our passing game because our run game is nonexistent. That’s the biggest reason our offense is faced with so many 3rd down attempts and 3rd and longs. Lots of other top 15 teams would be faced for 3rd and short or even a 1st down if they ran it twice. Meanwhile we’re over here facing a 3rd and 8 after 2 runs.


And this is THE EXACT reason I don't think any aspect of our offense is great, because of the OL. I'm not underestimating it, I'm acknowledging it by saying they (the OL) are the reason we're not "great" on offense. Their inability to run block and consistently pass block is keeping this offense from reaching its full potential. Could you imagine how unstoppable our offense would be if our running game was just "average", i.e. middle of the pack? LOL! It would make our passing game truly unstoppable. But we can't even string together two back to back rushes for more than 2-3 yards because of DL'man penetrating the backfield.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88966 posts
Posted on 11/4/25 at 12:46 pm to
You’re right.

Idk what I was looking at.
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