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re: The Future of Coleman Coliseum
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:47 pm to South Alabama Tide
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:47 pm to South Alabama Tide
The Renovation is coming!!!
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Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:53 pm to narddogg81
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the orientation of the court should be in the opposite direction
I like it. Rotate it and move it towards the VIP section. The seats that would be new courtside seats in front of the VIP area could be for the students. All the ones that show up early would be great seats and the late arrivals would get the meh corner spots. Build some seats where the right side of the court currently is and that’s a decent rough draft. Might end up ugly as sin but more practical than what we have
This post was edited on 11/21/17 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 11/21/17 at 1:53 pm to South Alabama Tide
My concern is that they'll be worried about gymnastics as they go through the planning process. And I don't mean that to demean gymnastics at all. But we should take the approach of having another plan for gymnastics if the basketball renovations end up not accommodating it. The focus should be making the perfect venue for basketball. Provide gym with its own space if they can't utilize Coleman after the renovations. But like I said, I'm concerned they're just gonna do it with both in mind.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:26 pm to eric4UA08
I'm a fan of Ole Miss new Arena. They've got students on 3 sides of the court. Place looks nice.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:32 pm to eric4UA08
I don't know why we need fewer seats. We are already selling more than 12,500 for basketball and gymnastics. The current trend is to make the incline of the seating much steeper, so that the seats are closer to the court. But you feel like you could fall out of your seat and land on the court. They would have to take the roof off to do that though. The direction of the roof is correct now, IMO. As it is now, we get more seats on the sides of the court rather than behind the goals.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:35 pm to IB4bama
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I don't know why we need fewer seats
Because we rarely draw 15k. Especially for midweek games.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 2:44 pm to South Alabama Tide
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Wonder what the future holds for Coleman.
Hope it goes the same way as the Georgia Dome
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:40 pm to pvilleguru
We have not had a decent team in years, but last year we sold over 12,500 seats six times. Back when we were winning with Wimp, the place was packed and crazy many times.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:46 pm to IB4bama
We average just around 12k in the last 10 years. On weekdays where around 10k are going to show up, that still leaves an ugly 5000 seats open and looks terrible.
We don't need 15k seats. Even if we are a good program right now, think of it from a future stand point. Do we really need 15k for a program that hasn't been overly consistent? Or do we need something more suited for a program that is constantly in an uphill battle to market it program? I'd rather we have a smaller venue that we can say is full to recruits, than have a large one that is only packed for when Kentucky and Auburn come to town.
We don't need 15k seats. Even if we are a good program right now, think of it from a future stand point. Do we really need 15k for a program that hasn't been overly consistent? Or do we need something more suited for a program that is constantly in an uphill battle to market it program? I'd rather we have a smaller venue that we can say is full to recruits, than have a large one that is only packed for when Kentucky and Auburn come to town.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:47 pm to IB4bama
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We have not had a decent team in years, but last year we sold over 12,500 seats six times
6 out of 15. And that's not counting the actual attendance.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 3:49 pm to South Alabama Tide
Posted on 11/21/17 at 6:24 pm to IB4bama
15k seats, we could finally take away Utah's gymnastics attendance record.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 7:26 pm to Bamafan15
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Some guy on TI said it would be an $80 million renovation to Coleman that would basically change almost everything inside of the arena. Seating would go to 12k. He also said we'd play a year at the BJCC
Heard Phil Savage say the same recently.
Posted on 11/21/17 at 8:51 pm to FairhopeTider
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Coleman has been holding our program back for awhile.
Coleman is nicer than the o'dome. Uf has no issues with hoops, gymnastics, nor swimming. I do believe both need to get georgia domed. I'll miss both somehow, but it's damn near 2018 and they need to go.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:30 am to pvilleguru
Again, that was a bad team. They had a hard time scoring with no one guarding them. If Ala starts losing football games watch what happens at the football stadium. That doesn't mean you tear it down and build a smaller stadium. And, Basketball will never draw big crowds before football is over. There will always be 4 or 5 of those preseason bball games against no name teams that wont draw squat. Look at Bryant Denny last Saturday, and see what happens against those kind of teams.. And, those Wed night 8pm TV games will also be a problem.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:42 am to Gary Busey
Problem is there will still be 5000 seats open regardless of the size. The problem with filling the stadium isn't the capacity being too large. The problem is the Tide Pride system.
When my family or friends visit for basketball games, they often can't find tickets for sale together. They just buy them separately and then move together because so many tickets go unused. Changing the capacity won't change the number of tickets that go unused.
If it's hard to find tickets together for good games when our team has been bad, it'll be too hard if we become good. I think reducing the capacity is short sighted based on a flawed season ticket system and a lack of quality product on the court.
When my family or friends visit for basketball games, they often can't find tickets for sale together. They just buy them separately and then move together because so many tickets go unused. Changing the capacity won't change the number of tickets that go unused.
If it's hard to find tickets together for good games when our team has been bad, it'll be too hard if we become good. I think reducing the capacity is short sighted based on a flawed season ticket system and a lack of quality product on the court.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:46 am to IB4bama
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If Ala starts losing football games watch what happens at the football stadium.
If Alabama football starts losing, the stadium stays packed. We weren't having trouble selling out the stadium between 2000-2006.
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And, Basketball will never draw big crowds before football is over. There will always be 4 or 5 of those preseason bball games against no name teams that wont draw squat. Look at Bryant Denny last Saturday, and see what happens against those kind of teams.. And, those Wed night 8pm TV games will also be a problem.
These are all reasons to have a smaller arena. You're doing my work for me.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:47 am to TomRollTideRitter
Coleman used to be packed consistently when we were really good. We now have about twice as many students as we did then. That means in the future we'll have twice as many alumni buying tickets. If the team is good, we'll have no problem filling 15k moving forward.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 9:49 am to TomRollTideRitter
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If the team is good, we'll have no problem filling 15k moving forward.
That's a mighty big if.
Posted on 11/22/17 at 10:07 am to pvilleguru
I think the capacity should be based on what you expect when the team is good. We've been selling out a decent number of games under CAJ without even good teams.
I'd rather have a stadium with empty seats, more people, and cheaper tickets than one that still has empty seats because of TP, where I can't guarantee seats with my family, and the tickets are expensive.
I'd rather have a stadium with empty seats, more people, and cheaper tickets than one that still has empty seats because of TP, where I can't guarantee seats with my family, and the tickets are expensive.
This post was edited on 11/22/17 at 10:08 am
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