re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?

Posted by SoFla Tideroller

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Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:13 pm to YStar

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Two first rounder CBs

Who are these?

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One possible First round OLB, the other a top-3 round vet OLB (Anfernee)

Both of our OLBs were JAGs. Neither one sniffs the first round. Quit being delusional.

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Deep DLine, which was so damn deep we lost Ray but had Barmore graded as one of the top 15 DL.

It was so deep we kept running Raekwon out there every series to watch him lean against the OL and then beg for a holding call.

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One possible first round S. The other stud future first rounder

There's not a S on the 2019 team that would crack the Top 6 of the Saban era.

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Posted by bamameister

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:01 am to SoFla Tideroller

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There's not a S on the 2019 team that would crack the Top 6 of the Saban era.

Put your top 6 safeties out here and let's take a look?

Posted by Funky Tide 8

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:37 am to bamameister

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Put your top 6 safeties out here and let's take a look?

1. Mark Barron
2. Eddie Jackson
3. Rashad Johnson
4. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
5. Landon Collins
6. Ronnie Harrison
7. Robert Lester
8. Xavier Mckinney

I would put all of those guys above anyone from the 2019 squad.

edit: added Landon Collins

edit # 2: took off Vinnie, and added Mckinney.

This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 9:09 am

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Posted by prevatt33b

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:40 am to Funky Tide 8

I think McKinney has as good an argument as Sunseri or Lester for that 6th spot.

Posted by YStar

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:41 am to SoFla Tideroller

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Who are these?

Diggs and Surtain

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Both of our OLBs were JAGs. Neither one sniffs the first round. Quit being delusional.

Terrell Lewis has been projected to go as high as the first round. Anfernee will go in the top 3.

You sound like a UGA fan who shits on the their own players when it's convenient.

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It was so deep we kept running Raekwon out there every series to watch him lean against the OL and then beg for a holding call

Moronic statement that has nothing to do with our depth.

Yeah we were so deep Ray got hurt and we brought up Byron Young, Eboigbe, Barmore, etc.

Again you sound like these pathetic UGA fans.

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There's not a S on the 2019 team that would crack the Top 6 of the Saban era.

This is how dumb you are. McKinney is going to be a first rounder.

You guys have lost your minds for fricking Golding. It's truly pathetic.

Boz please sticky this thread. These people need to be mocked relentlessly when Golding underwhelms as he has last season and when he took over play calling from Lupoi the season before.

Posted by YStar

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:43 am to Funky Tide 8

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1. Mark Barron
2. Eddie Jackson
3. Rashad Johnson
4. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
5. Ronnie Harrison
6. Robert Lester
7. Vinnie Sunseri

I would put all of those guys above anyone from the 2019 squad.

Literally LOL.

Then when McKinney goes in the first round and is balling out amneisa will hit you guys.

It's truly amazing, this is the same place McKinney was declared best safety in college football, but now he can't hold a candle to Vinnie Sunseri lol.

Even Vinnie would laugh you off.

Posted by bamameister

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:44 am to Funky Tide 8

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1. Mark Barron
2. Eddie Jackson
3. Rashad Johnson
4. Ha Ha Clinton-Dix
5. Ronnie Harrison
6. Robert Lester
7. Vinnie Sunseri

I would put all of those guys above anyone from the 2019 squad.

Do you have Vinnie on there and not Landon Collins? The dude led the team in tackles his last season. And was a unanimous All-American.

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Posted by prevatt33b

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:45 am to bamameister

Yep, I forgot about Collins. He's top 4 probably. Good call.

This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:46 am

Posted by YStar

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:48 am to bamameister

The spin here is hilarious.

No apparently all of our defensive players suck, we apparently recruited poorly and poor Golding had to deal with substandard talent.

It's incredible.

I don't get why this guy is relentlessly defended? Are you guys related to him? Does he pay your bills?

Do you look like him therefore defend him?

It's so weird Saban is about excellence, this University's history is about excellence and you guys are relentlessly defending someone who has been anything but that.

Posted by Funky Tide 8

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:48 am to YStar

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Then when McKinney goes in the first round and is balling out amneisa will hit you guys.

I hope he does go first round, and balls out. I don't think that he is a bad, talent-less player.

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It's truly amazing, this is the same place McKinney was declared best safety in college football, but now he can't hold a candle to Vinnie Sunseri lol.

Even Vinnie would laugh you off.

Why do you get so offended and outraged over an opinion?

where exactly did I say that Mckinney "can't hold a candle to Sunseri?"

Unless I misunderstood, the question wasn't who was more talented, it was who was better on the field while they were at Alabama.

Posted by Funky Tide 8

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:49 am to bamameister

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Do you have Vinnie on there and not Landon Collins? The dude led the team in tackles his last season. And was a unanimous All-American.

I knew I was missing someone. I'll edit.

Posted by prevatt33b

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:50 am to prevatt33b

@ anyone:

I say we let these Golding threads die and move to another new thread with a new Subject line. The arguments obviously won't ever really stay on topic, tho - it's the offseason. Anyone want to start a new thread? Maybe "Offseason Bitching Part 1" or similar?

Posted by Funky Tide 8

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 8:54 am to YStar

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No apparently all of our defensive players suck,

Where did someone say that? I agree with you fwiw about Diggs and Surtain.

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I don't get why this guy is relentlessly defended? Are you guys related to him? Does he pay your bills?

and I think that we are confused as to why you are so outraged by people thinking that he might not be THAT bad. Did he frick your girl? Kill your dog?

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It's so weird Saban is about excellence, this University's history is about excellence and you guys are relentlessly defending someone who has been anything but that.

People are defending their stance of being ok with giving him another year for the sake of continuity, and thinking that he was dealt a really bad hand in 2019, and still managed to finish the season with a fairly high ranked defense.

I am not sure why that stance gets you guys so riled up. Its kind of strange.

Posted by YStar

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:01 am to Funky Tide 8

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Why do you get so offended and outraged over an opinion?

Well because it borders on trolling how stupid some of the stuff here can get.

Okay, the guy loves Golding. Okay, Golding is misunderstood.

Is that why he should shite on good players?

Posted by Funky Tide 8

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:02 am to prevatt33b

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I think McKinney has as good an argument as Sunseri or Lester for that 6th spot.

I have no problem with that. I will admit that putting Sunseri above Mckinney might be wrong, but Lester was a total ball hawk, who had 14 INTs while he was at Alabama, that is why I put him over Mckinney. But I really have no problem with Mckinney over him either.

Posted by Bear88

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:04 am to Funky Tide 8

I would put jack of all trades Minkah in there too even though he played several different positions . Thompson was talented too

Posted by YStar

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:04 am to Funky Tide 8

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I think that we are confused as to why you are so outraged by people thinking that he might not be THAT bad. Did he frick your girl? Kill your dog?

He fricked my team. So yeah, I have a reason to be outraged.

When people begin denying reality that Golding took over playcalling from Tosh, spin facts that Golding had a horrible roster to work with and ignoring the fact the main weakness of his defense was the position HE coached yet couldn't develop previous players which forced us to rely on freshmen (who he still really didn't develop)?

Then yeah, that pisses some of us off. We don't want to see the same crap next year, where people blame our offense for not scoring 50+ instead of asking why our defense can't stop teams with a pulse.

Posted by Funky Tide 8

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Posted on 1/29/20 at 9:06 am to YStar

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Well because it borders on trolling how stupid some of the stuff here can get.

Does it? What exactly is being said here that you find so ridiculous as to think that we are trolling?

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Okay, the guy loves Golding. Okay, Golding is misunderstood.

Its been said a thousand times in here, but I have not seen one person that "loves" Golding. I'm not sure why it is so hard to understand that most of us defending him are just unsure. Its fine if you have your mind 100 percent made up that he is trash. You very well could be right. I am just withholding a full judgement for now, for the reasons that have been clearly stated in multiple threads now. That is all speaking personally, of course.

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Is that why he should shite on good players?

I have defended Mckinney on here a lot, I think that he is a good player. Putting people like Barron, Clinton-Dix, Jackson, etc above him is not an indictment of him as a player.