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re: So is it safe to say Golding is staying?
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:58 am to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 1/23/20 at 10:58 am to Funky Tide 8
There wasn't one great player on the 2019 defense no matter what class (Fr-Sr). We had little if any players with real football savvy. Hell 3rd and 7-10 and anybody we played that was worth a shite made it time and time again. Nick needs to uncross his arms and get involved on GameDays like it was 2008 again. After all he made this mess fuking around with Tosh.
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Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:00 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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There wasn't one great player on the 2019 defense no matter what class (Fr-Sr). We had little if any players with real football savvy. Hell 3rd and 7-10 and anybody we played that was worth a shite made it time and time again. Nick needs to uncross his arms and get involved on GameDays like it was 2008 again. After all he made this mess fuking around with Tosh.
Our defense did decently well in 3rd and longs IIRC.
The problem was we rarely had 3rd and longs because we were giving up 3 and 4 yards on 1st and 2nd, so most of our 3rd downs were short yardage situations. We struggled to stop the run on early downs, especially early in the year.
It did improve despite people wanting to claim the defense never improved over the year.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:03 am to Funky Tide 8
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Oh. Well if we score 45 points, and no pick sixes, I'll be okay with it.
You aren't hard to please. Now, if we can get everybody to promise to only get just that close.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:05 am to bamameister
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You aren't hard to please. Now, if we can get everybody to promise to only get just that close.
I bet you lost your goddamn mind when Kirby's defense gave up 44 to AU in 2014.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:15 am to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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There wasn't one great player on the 2019 defense no matter what class (Fr-Sr). We had little if any players with real football savvy.
Diggs, Surtain and McKinney, Jennings, Lewis, will prove you wrong in the NFL. We had a blessing fall into our lap when Lewis and Jennings decided to come back. They aren't "average." They may have played "average" but their talent was off the charts. Jenning was a brutal pass rusher in that 2017 Clemson Game and he was holding the hell out of that edge defense in '17.'
Wilson and Moses were two of the fastest, most athlete ILBers of the Saban era. There was a reason they were on the Butkus watch list going into the '18' season. BG (Before Golding) Wilson had the best pass coverage skills of any previous ILBer. He led the team in interceptions under Jeremy Pruitt. Moses was turned loose his freshman year and he was getting to the ball carriers and QBs with the speed of a RaShaan Evans. Both looked lost many times in '18.'
It ain't talent.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 11:23 am to Funky Tide 8
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I bet you lost your goddamn mind when Kirby's defense gave up 44 to AU in 2014.
Actually, I'm in no hurry to confuse the 2014 barner offense, led by Nick Marshall, with the 2019 version led by true freshman Bo Nix. The Barners were celebrating first downs this year like they were TDs. Until they played us.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:08 pm to bamameister
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Actually, I'm in no hurry to confuse the 2014 barner offense, led by Nick Marshall, with the 2019 version led by true freshman Bo Nix. The Barners were celebrating first downs this year like they were TDs. Until they played us.
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Actually, I'm in no hurry to confuse the 2014 barner offense, led by Nick Marshall, with the 2019 version led by true freshman Bo Nix.
well that 2014 Barner offense put up a whopping 7 points just two weeks before on UGA, and 31 on Samford the week before.
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The Barners were celebrating first downs this year like they were TDs. Until they played us.
Oh really? We gave up 23 first downs to Auburn. UGA gave up 22. MSU gave up 25. OM gave up 26. Oregon have up 21.
LSU gave up 13, A&M gave up 16, and UF 12. Those were Nix's first three SEC road games of his career.
This post was edited on 1/23/20 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:18 pm to Funky Tide 8
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well that 2014 Barner offense put up a whopping 7 points just two weeks before on UGA, and 31 on Samford the week before.
So? If you would like to make the case that 2019, Nix's offense was more Dynamic that Nick Marshall's version you may have to extend yourself a tad further.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 12:32 pm to bamameister
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So? If you would like to make the case that 2019, Nix's offense was more Dynamic that Nick Marshall's version you may have to extend yourself a tad further.
I'm not making that case. You keep using other games that Auburn played as comparison to the Iron Bowl, and as an argument to how bad Golding sucks. I am doing the same thing to prove to you that even Kirby's defenses got dominated by teams that got completely shut down by other teams.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:16 pm to bamameister
I don't give a sh*t what they do in the NFL for I am a Bama 1st guy. Best of luck to those that do get a gig in the NFL.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 1:31 pm to 3down10
quote:Bingo! It's been a long time since I've seen an Alabama defensive line pushed around like they were this year. We, of all people, should know how teams wilt under the beating given to them by a dominating Oline and big, strong RBs over the course of a game. There were times when we couldn't hold our own out there this year.
The problem was we rarely had 3rd and longs because we were giving up 3 and 4 yards on 1st and 2nd, so most of our 3rd downs were short yardage situations. We struggled to stop the run on early downs, especially early in the year.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:17 pm to coachcrisp
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We, of all people, should know how teams wilt under the beating given to them by a dominating Oline and big, strong RBs over the course of a game. There were times when we couldn't hold our own out there this year.
I will say, a positive is that we did seem to tighten up in the 2nd half last season. Didn't seem like the "dam" ever really broke.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:37 pm to coachcrisp
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Bingo! It's been a long time since I've seen an Alabama defensive line pushed around like they were this year. We, of all people, should know how teams wilt under the beating given to them by a dominating Oline and big, strong RBs over the course of a game. There were times when we couldn't hold our own out there this year.
More time with Cochran will help that a good bit. The other thing with injuries not usually realized is how much it kills your depth. The same guys are out there play after play, because there really isn't that much behind them anymore. The guys playing were the guys who were supposed to be those guys providing the depth, keeping people fresh, etc.
In 2015 when we had more starters than we did positions our depth in the front 7 was so deep. It was like 11 guys who could be starting or something like that. They were always fresh, and they were the domination.
Posted on 1/23/20 at 3:40 pm to 3down10
Depth like that also breeds competition. Practice is a war because you are fighting for a starting job or fighting to get on the field in the 2nd wave.
When you have injuries like we had last year (along with a lack of veterans up front) you aren't able or willing to practice in the same manner.
2020 should be much more like 2016 in terms of having a bunch of guys who have been starters fighting each-other to start - at DT, DE, ILB.
When you have injuries like we had last year (along with a lack of veterans up front) you aren't able or willing to practice in the same manner.
2020 should be much more like 2016 in terms of having a bunch of guys who have been starters fighting each-other to start - at DT, DE, ILB.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:04 am to Lucky_Stryke
I don’t know why all the debate. Our board hero/insider has already told us the “Golding is gone” but then reversed his position stating that Nick Saban couldn’t find a suitable replacement, so Golding is staying. Boz has spoken.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 7:18 am to MrMojoRisin
Golding was gonna step down due to family issues. Something changed and he seem to get it resolved. If he was gone it was because of Golding decision.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:20 am to Panthers4life
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Golding was gonna step down due to family issues. Something changed and he seem to get it resolved. If he was gone it was because of Golding decision.
Some of his family were Auburn fans so he offed them?
No offense intended, and I figure you heard it from another source anyway, but I can't really buy this story line. I mean, regardless of any family issues, a man's gotta make a living. Some of the previous innuendos suggested there were medical issues. That would at least be a little believable.
I think either Saban couldn't get who he wanted or he wants continuity more than another change. edit: but it still wouldn't surprise me if it happened after signing day.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 8:22 am
Posted on 1/24/20 at 8:31 am to John Milner
Posted on 1/24/20 at 9:12 am to 3down10
quote:I agree with you regarding the strength & conditioning program (Cochran). Also, there were a lot of 18-20 year old kids getting playing time who weren't physically developed enough to take on "full-grown" juniors and seniors, but had to. I'm hoping that was the case, knowing that we'll find out early next season.
More time with Cochran will help that a good bit. The other thing with injuries not usually realized is how much it kills your depth. The same guys are out there play after play, because there really isn't that much behind them anymore. The guys playing were the guys who were supposed to be those guys providing the depth, keeping people fresh, etc.
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:23 pm to coachcrisp
As much as I want Pete Golding gone, I think most of that desire is fueled by frustration and a need to point the finger at a perceived single point of failure. It's easy to place the blame at Golding's feet but I think a lot of it was out of his control. We had so many true freshmen playing before they were ready.
Perhaps 2020 will bear out the popular theory that Golding sucks, but the man was given a bad deck from the get go. His best player was knocked out before the season even started and by the end of the year he was playing as many as 5-6 true freshmen on the field at a given time.
Perhaps 2020 will bear out the popular theory that Golding sucks, but the man was given a bad deck from the get go. His best player was knocked out before the season even started and by the end of the year he was playing as many as 5-6 true freshmen on the field at a given time.
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 10:24 pm
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