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re: Portal & Roster Tracker (see first 2 posts for updated roster info) - PORTAL OPEN 1/2-1/16
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:04 pm to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:04 pm to 1BamaRTR
With the NIL/Portal Era, I do not think having what I would consider to be “quality” depth is feasible.
Guys like Renaud/Collins are not going to stick around to play 10 snaps a game unless the multiple guys in front of them get injured.
I think a 2-deep is reasonable, but there still would be a sizable dropoff between a “starter” and the backup (especially at premiere positions due to cost).
If multiple (significant) injuries occurred to the same position group then you would just have to rely on young guys to step up….much like Justin Hill did when Russaw went down and provided depth behind Pierre.
Personally, I would prefer to be able to afford a guy like Yhonzae Pierre at the Edge position with a Freshman (Justin Hill) as his backup, as opposed to having 3-4 guys at the Edge position who do not possess “game-changing” ability, but would give you “depth” at the position.
I do not think it’s financially feasible to have it both ways.
Thankfully, Bama has maintained a relatively healthy roster over the past few years now, so hopefully that trend will continue.
Guys like Renaud/Collins are not going to stick around to play 10 snaps a game unless the multiple guys in front of them get injured.
I think a 2-deep is reasonable, but there still would be a sizable dropoff between a “starter” and the backup (especially at premiere positions due to cost).
If multiple (significant) injuries occurred to the same position group then you would just have to rely on young guys to step up….much like Justin Hill did when Russaw went down and provided depth behind Pierre.
Personally, I would prefer to be able to afford a guy like Yhonzae Pierre at the Edge position with a Freshman (Justin Hill) as his backup, as opposed to having 3-4 guys at the Edge position who do not possess “game-changing” ability, but would give you “depth” at the position.
I do not think it’s financially feasible to have it both ways.
Thankfully, Bama has maintained a relatively healthy roster over the past few years now, so hopefully that trend will continue.
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:04 pm to Cover1Key
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Can you provide reasoning for your assertion?
His position groups have not been exceptional ever. Also I remember him when he first got to Bama...he got started in weightroom 100% only because he was just a popular former player.
He doesnt have a great resume.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:07 pm to scottydoesntknow
When assessing a Position Coach, Quality Control breakdowns will look at whether player “A” reached his potential relative to expectation.
If I listed every starter on the Dline from 2020-2025, would you say (as a whole) they exceeded expectations or failed to do so?
If I listed every starter on the Dline from 2020-2025, would you say (as a whole) they exceeded expectations or failed to do so?
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:20 pm to TideSaint
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Oregon DL Terrence Green is on campus.
I just found some HS highlights of this guy but he's one of those 330lb guys who has almost no bad weight. Sorta Raekwon Davis-esque as a DT. Think they even wear the same number 99.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:36 pm to scottydoesntknow
Out of curiosity, what Alabama Dline groups did “perform well”, since apparently the 2020 and 2023 groups do not meet your standard?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:46 pm to YStar
Why? I never thought of them as poor
Also with players jumping into the portal they’re obviously getting access to freed up funds
Also with players jumping into the portal they’re obviously getting access to freed up funds
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:47 pm to Bham Bammer
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This season is going to tell us a lot. Deboer still is buying into being a HS recruiting program primarily. There are many dangers in operating that way, namely being you end up with an incredibly young roster MOST years.
If it doesn't work out this season, I don't know if Deboer will get a chance to fix it. It's hard to imagine Ole Miss having more to throw around than us, but they also are philosophically going about this a different way.
Yeah man. How about you go look at ON3's team rankings for the portal the last two years and tell me how it worked out for those teams that were ranked higher than Alabama. Auburn and LSU both were in the top 10 last year and were terrible. Ole Miss got lucky that Chambliss caught fire and they hit on Lacy and they still only made it 1 round further than Alabama, but yet Deboer is going to be fired if he doesnt win a Natty this year?
Edited to add this- This staff has stated repeatedly they value transformation over transactions... Alabama is not going to spend on the open market like other teams because the vast majority of the time it doesnt workout and they dont have the money. Great HS recruiting is the only way Alabama stays at the level they are at and you just hope you are able to keep the main core pieces of the team. This staff has recruited top 5 in that area and hopefully they can get enough pieces to fill in around that core. They have also not lost one truly difference maker off last years team.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:54 pm to HighTide_ATL
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Why? I never thought of them as poor
Also with players jumping into the portal they’re obviously getting access to freed up funds
He bitched the other day about the Big 10 outspending us. He's just bitching to bitch.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:05 pm to Cover1Key
Chavis, Blackwell, King-Williams is rapidly rising. I could go on. I'm not down on FR. Like I said, he's a good guy and a decent coach. I don't hate him but he's not progressing as a coach and his poduct isn't top tier.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:13 pm to Bamadiver
His second season as the DL Coach at Alabama they led the nation in Sacks
(Both in Total Team and combined Front-4).
I know that is not the only measure of a DL Coach, but to say he hasn’t produced would be “laughable”.
A lot of it has to do with recruiting if you subscribe to such theories. When given top talent, they produced like it.
More convincing to me is the job he did to make Phidarian Mathis, Justin Egboigbe, Chris Braswell, Christian Barmore, etc…(likely to add LT Overton possibly Tim Keenan) to make these under-rated “3-star” guys into 2nd/3rd round picks. There are few coaches out there that have a list that impressive.
(Both in Total Team and combined Front-4).
I know that is not the only measure of a DL Coach, but to say he hasn’t produced would be “laughable”.
A lot of it has to do with recruiting if you subscribe to such theories. When given top talent, they produced like it.
More convincing to me is the job he did to make Phidarian Mathis, Justin Egboigbe, Chris Braswell, Christian Barmore, etc…(likely to add LT Overton possibly Tim Keenan) to make these under-rated “3-star” guys into 2nd/3rd round picks. There are few coaches out there that have a list that impressive.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:14 pm to JoylessMurderball
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Yeah man. How about you go look at ON3's team rankings for the portal the last two years and tell me how it worked out for those teams that were ranked higher than Alabama.
Just looked at them for last year.
Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Oregon, Miami, and Ohio State were in the top 10. Indiana was 13. A&M was 16.
You're right. There's no correlation between the transfer portal and on-field success.
Furthermore, where did I say that Deboer needed to win a natty or he'd be fired? Nowhere. You pulled it out of your arse.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:16 pm to Bham Bammer
LSU must be going all out for Kiffin’s first year. Can’t imagine they can spend like this every year
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:19 pm to Bham Bammer
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Just looked at them for last year.
Texas Tech, Ole Miss, Oregon, Miami, and Ohio State were in the top 10. Indiana was 13. A&M was 16.
You're right. There's no correlation between the transfer portal and on-field success.
Furthermore, where did I say that Deboer needed to win a natty or he'd be fired? Nowhere. You pulled it out of your arse.
You think 7 out of the top 25 proves success? Or what about 4 out of the top 25 the year before?
You said if it didnt work out this year you dont know if he will get a chance to fix it. Please tell me what you meant by that then. What would be fixing it in your mind because he can only go to the 3rd round of the playoffs or Natty to improve on this year.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:22 pm to JoylessMurderball
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:22 pm to Cover1Key
Providing a single metric and admit it is only one measure as if it proves anything at all. That's laughable. You either are FR or YSTAR is bored and made an alter. 
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:24 pm to Allthatfades
They've presented his deal as $25 mil a year for four years. I suspect it's more like $100 mil in four years applied as he sees fit. They do not have unlimited funds. They sure do walk around here acting like it though. LSU fans always do this. They set themselves up for the fall every time.
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:26 pm to Bamadiver
What metric do you determine to be viable? Eyeball test?
Posted on 1/16/26 at 2:31 pm to Bamadiver
I provided you with NFL Draft picks relative to recruiting rankings.
Unfortunately that is the best indicator we currently have to gauge whether a player reached their potential or failed to do so.
Apparently that did not suffice
Unfortunately that is the best indicator we currently have to gauge whether a player reached their potential or failed to do so.
Apparently that did not suffice
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