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People are missing the point, it's not the SOS or the losses, it's the formatting...
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:22 pm
Look at the final CFP Poll. See where Alabama is ranked? That's right. We are ranked eleventh. Same as we were last week. The Playoff Committee believes we are one of the 12 best teams in the country. However, what screwed us was format. For whatever reason, there is still a belief that all conferences are created equal and therefore the conference champions get automatically qualified for contention in the CFP. That's why #16 Clemson was able to leap frog us and capture the final seed in the playoff.
The Committee made their opinion known of what they thought about Clemson as it relates to Alabama. However, they had no choice but to put Clemson in the playoff because they won the ACC and we determined that all conference champions are created equal.
The Committee made their opinion known of what they thought about Clemson as it relates to Alabama. However, they had no choice but to put Clemson in the playoff because they won the ACC and we determined that all conference champions are created equal.
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Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:23 pm to RollTide1987
Losing to OU screwed us. That's on the coaches for not having the team ready to go.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:24 pm to RollTide1987
We should probably not lose to a 6-6 team by 21 on the road. Much simpler solution.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 4:25 pm to bamabonners
I'm not saying that the loss to OU didn't screw us, I'm simply saying that the way the playoff is formatted at present is stupid.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:13 pm to RollTide1987
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I'm not saying that the loss to OU didn't screw us, I'm simply saying that the way the playoff is formatted at present is stupid.
I gotcha. Apparently this board is filled with women that don't understand analysis or hypotheticals and are governed solely by emotion.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:15 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Every time someone tries to have a broader picture discussion about formatting or scheduling going forward and is met with “shoulda beat OU durrhurr” I automatically assume that person is functionally retarded regarding football as a whole.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 5:16 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:17 pm to bamabenny
They pick and chose which criteria they want to highlight so the teams they want get in.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:18 pm to bamabenny
We should have beaten Okie.
The OP’s analysis is on point.
Two things can be true.
The OP’s analysis is on point.
Two things can be true.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:26 pm to bamabenny
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Every time someone tries to have a broader picture discussion about formatting or scheduling going forward and is met with “shoulda beat OU durrhurr” I automatically assume that person is functionally retarded regarding football as a whole
100%
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:27 pm to bamabenny
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Every time someone tries to have a broader picture discussion about formatting or scheduling going forward and is met with “shoulda beat OU durrhurr” I automatically assume that person is functionally retarded regarding football as a whole.
Actually we just understand the new rules of the road. You can't have "bad" losses. That was made clear. Wins are irrelevant other than that they exist. Judgment is made on losses. Both in quality and number.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:27 pm to InkStainedWretch
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We should have beaten Okie.
The OP’s analysis is on point.
Two things can be true.
True. But one of those concepts has been beaten to death. One of those hasn't. OP was just trying to expand on a point that has NOT been beaten to death. Get it?
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:28 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Got it. 
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:30 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
I have found since landing at this forum that people don’t do nuance or think outside the box very well here.
This post was edited on 12/8/24 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:30 pm to Temple of the Dog
quote:Absolutely true, but he's not wrong about them treating conferences as equals. ACC is a joke with their two best teams suing to get out; the Big12 is now about on par with C-USA; and to think that the MWC is heir to the Pac12's sport you have to be mentally deficient. If this is the standard, then not only should all OOC games be against Savannah State and Austin Peay, but you'd be wise to move into the ACC, Big12, or MWC, too.
We should probably not lose to a 6-6 team by 21 on the road. Much simpler solution.
I think the committee is reacting to the apt criticism that the playoffs could become an SEC/Bi10 invitational.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:32 pm to HarryBalzack
That's all fine, but there isn't an internal solution to that other than leave the league. Our league is hard. It's not getting less hard. It's bullshite that it isn't acknowledged, but we can't adjust to that other than hope it changes.
What we have to do is understand that the factors that matter are no ugly losses and minimizing number of losses. So, again, you can't be up and down and beat a great team then have a letdown. The win over the great team isn't judged as important as the bad loss.
What we have to do is understand that the factors that matter are no ugly losses and minimizing number of losses. So, again, you can't be up and down and beat a great team then have a letdown. The win over the great team isn't judged as important as the bad loss.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:34 pm to HarryBalzack
Also it’s not that far out of reach to consider the ACC got 3 in considering ND plays about half their games yearly against them.
Which makes it even worse
Which makes it even worse
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:35 pm to Night Vision
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They pick and chose which criteria they want to highlight so the teams they want get in.
They set it up nicely for the B10. They know SMU is not a playoff team. They know SMU will go to Happy Valley and get blasted.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 5:37 pm to bamabenny
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Every time someone tries to have a broader picture discussion about formatting or scheduling going forward and is met with “shoulda beat OU durrhurr” I automatically assume that person is functionally retarded regarding football as a whole.
In our case, formatting wouldn't have mattered if we were in the SEC championship... That's the point. We wouldn't be having this discussion if we'd taken care of business... However, someone has to be on the bubble... Unfortunately, it's us.
12 teams is too much because it brings too many teams into the bubble discussion. Automatic bids is also a problem. The BIGGEST problem is the committee has no guidance. Nobody knows what they're thinking. Do away with the committee except for picking wildcards.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:05 pm to TS1926
quote:That motivation was behind much of the push for the playoffs and the expansion in the first place. Prior to Michigan's run last year it had been more-or-less 20 yrs of no one other than Ohio State getting a shot. Wasn't there a year a while back that Penn State was #5 and all the folks using "zk" as a vowel were outraged about them getting snubbed from consideration?
They set it up nicely for the B10.
Posted on 12/8/24 at 6:08 pm to InkStainedWretch
Beat Vandy too
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