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re: Our QB is overrated, has a noodle arm and defenses have adjusted

Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:51 am to
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:51 am to
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This is retarded and you should feel bad




This board has become unreadable
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:56 am to
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Tua would have melted into a little Hawaiian Punch puddle at the sight of Chris Owens at RT


So you have to try to diminish Tua to uplift Bryce? Tua could take our current WRs and ball out. Bryce has to have guys wide open and not be under any kind of pressure to complete passes to them?! Lets not forget Bryce is TERRIBLE under pressure.

I will say that the WRs we give the bulk of the snaps too aren't good enough. Urban Meyer all but said the same thing after the Texas game. Urban said we have to get the young WRs ready. See Urban knows about our young WRs and he isn't saying that dumb shite that we have no speed at WR. Urban would have been benched the WRs getting the bulk of the snaps. We aren't doing that.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9450 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 9:57 am to
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This board has become unreadable


Don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22539 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:13 am to
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So you have to try to diminish Tua to uplift Bryce?

Regardless of whether he was better, he wouldn’t have survived unscathed (given his injury history) last season behind that OL.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44390 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:18 am to
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Regardless of whether he was better, he wouldn’t have survived unscathed (given his injury history) last season behind that OL.




The fact that he has lasted as long as he has behind the human turnstiles they have blocking for him in Miami has been a minor miracle.

I agree though, Tua would have struggled with our offense last year. He's a rhythm passer and we had very little of that last year. Or this year for that matter.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9450 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:19 am to
Honestly, I have been sitting on my opinion of Bryce since last season but I kept my mouth shut. I knew then as I know now that my opinion of Bryce wouldn't be accepted by many. That's fine. Your opinions don't mean a hill of beans to me. I know good QB play and Bryce is good but FAR from a generational talent. Good won't suffice in conference play. And, I do think DCs have him figured out and this is evident when we play teams that have the athletes to defend Bryce. LSU, Texas, Auburn, UGA, etc. The list of defenses that have success against Bryce is getting longer.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 10:20 am
Posted by Tupelo
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:22 am to
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you have to try to diminish Tua to uplift Bryce? Tua could take our current WRs and ball out. Bryce has to have guys wide open and not be under any kind of pressure to complete passes to them?! Lets not forget Bryce is TERRIBLE under pressure.



Seems a little harsh on Bryce, he completed that pass to Jahmyr Gibbs in the end zone against Texas while under heavy pressure and scrambling. I've seen him make similar throws beforehand. He's not perfect, but without him we would most likely have lost about 3 or 4 games last year that we ended up winning. By the way, a couple of posts ago I was just poking fun at Tuas Mr. Glass reputation his last year at Bama. I have nothing but respect and appreciation for what Tua accomplished at Bama. I hate it for both him and Bama that his injuries kept him from accomplishing what he could have. I believe he would have had 2 more Championship rings and a Heisman Trophy if he stayed healthy his whole career.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44390 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:28 am to
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Honestly, I have been sitting on my opinion of Bryce since last season but I kept my mouth shut. I knew then as I know now that my opinion of Bryce wouldn't be accepted by many. That's fine. Your opinions don't mean a hill of beans to me.


Save this bullshite. You aren't some persecuted and misunderstood genius. You're just a stupid Gump who needs to take his own advice and continue shutting the frick up.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22539 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:34 am to
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That's fine. Your opinions don't mean a hill of beans to me.

Yet you keep responding and repeating yours. I do think Bryce has some issues and I hate the term generational talent used for most anybody.

But my response was NOT regarding TALENT, it was regarding whether Tua could survive behind that OL in the first place.
This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 10:44 am
Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37667 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:40 am to
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Honestly, I have been sitting on my opinion of Bryce since last season but I kept my mouth shut.


Please feel free to continue to do so.

Thanks
Posted by asphinctersayswhat
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:41 am to
In agreement that Bryce is overrated. I do think he is championship level though. Lane and Sark would have put him much more favorable positions to be successful. That guy we have now seems to be arrogantly running his great(LOL) system and not calling a game that puts ours guys in position to have consistent success. It is hard to watch.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14654 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:42 am to
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Save this bullshite. You aren't some persecuted and misunderstood genius. You're just a stupid Gump who needs to take his own advice and continue shutting the frick up.


All of this
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75872 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 10:55 am to
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That guy we have now seems to be arrogantly running his great(LOL) system


It's not his system.

It's Saban's.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10062 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:16 am to
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You're just a stupid Gump who needs to take his own advice and continue shutting the frick up.


Damn man. We can disagree on topics but at the end of the day we’re all fans of the same team.
Posted by bamabenny
Member since Nov 2009
14654 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:21 am to
Calling the reigning Heisman winner overrated and noodled armed when every NFL pundit out there has him as a top 3 pick deserves every bit of backlash he gets.

This board is full of hot takes lately, but this thread is beyond retarded
Posted by MrBiriwa
Biriwa,OH
Member since Nov 2010
7116 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:22 am to
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I know good QB play and Bryce is good but FAR from a generational talent. Good won't suffice in conference play


He literally won the conference last year being "good" lol. Your contradicting yourself.



Bryce wasn't the reason we lost vs UGA. Latu dropped a TD in the 2nd quarter when we were up 6-3. Hall dropped a pass that puts us at 1st and goal late in the 3rd Q when Bama was up 9-6. He played well enough to win that game.


Bryce isn't perfect but it's ridiculous to paint the guy like he's the problem with this team.

Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:34 am to
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It’s like he thinks his draft stock will go down if he runs the ball more.


In an entire thread of stupid takes, many of them probably drunken takes, this may be the dumbest. Its a good bet the coaches don’t want Young to run unless necessary. If the offense doesn’t suit you now you would really not like it without Young.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22539 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:42 am to
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Its a good bet the coaches don’t want Young to run unless necessary.

Maybe but also likely his own decision as well. This is from an article from last year

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But especially back when I was younger, there was a big narrative, one about mobile quarterbacks and especially about, like, especially about African-American quarterbacks that are mobile, about just wanting to run and just wanting to not being able to go through reads, or whatever it was.

“There’s been a lot of people who have helped changed that. But when I was younger and kind of learning the position, that was always something that I was always taught. Like, you’re always going to be assumed you’re just a runner, you can’t throw. That was always something I stressed, was to make sure that I kept my eyes downfield whenever I was out of the pocket, kind of scrambling, moving, making sure I always remained a passer.”
Posted by AjA77
Member since Aug 2015
1124 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:47 am to
I think we have Multiple offensive problems as it relates to Bryce play so far.Over the last 4-6 yrs we had guys that were dual over the top threats be it inside or outside in via the X,Y,Z spots. You cant seem to have Brooks, Holden and Burton on the field as a set..It would be different if Holden or Brooks could occasionally get over top from about the 45 yrds on in.
Now Is it that they can and Bob wont call it?
Or is it based on how much the young speed Wr have been inserted it seems they cant.

Ex. Burton in game one,Texas and ULM ran the inside and sideline go routes that J.Williams ran and Bryce overthrew him as most would say. But I think Bond,Leary and maybe Prentice go get both those balls.I think you have been seeing 80,17 even in the big game at Texas on the field being trusted more because Wiggins knows thee above and its why you saw Brooks working more inside.

Based on all the above we may end up playing a pair of Bonds,Prentice or leary with one of Brooks or Holden.
I can see Bonds,Prentice,Leary,law,Preston and Anderson being that type of core down the line.I will say without a doubt we dont have a lack of WR talent as it's more about the right set on the right play call.That's a Bill/Wiggins adjusting in real game speed time and also we still need adjusting as for the right starting O-line personnel .

But to be fair to Bryce he has a lot of new moving parts and getting the Texas win was huge and having ULM/Vandy to be our work in progress games are a blessing .But it has to be tight by the time we go to Arky.

This post was edited on 9/18/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted by C W
Member since Mar 2020
2686 posts
Posted on 9/18/22 at 11:47 am to
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Honestly, I have been sitting on my opinion of Bryce since last season but I kept my mouth shut.


Probably a good idea considering he was first team All American on nearly every legitimate AA team , not even to mention the Heisman Trophy.

But I suppose all those people who judge the best players every year aren’t as bright as the people on this LSU website.
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