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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:34 am to TideWarrior
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:34 am to TideWarrior
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Sorry I do not elect these so called officials to make decisions for me because I am incapable. I elect them(with the hope) to ensure that the I am freely able to make my on decisions without my rights being infringed on while understanding(common sense) how my actions may affect others as to not infringe on their rights.
This is very well said. I owe you a beer or 5
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:39 am to The Spleen
The US didn’t do a good of a job as they should have but they didn’t frick up as royally as people like you act like they did.
But everytime someone brings up China it’s always but the US...
As if they can’t be criticized individually
But everytime someone brings up China it’s always but the US...
As if they can’t be criticized individually
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:42 am to The Spleen
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It's pretty sad how much blame some of y'all are willing to lay at the feet of China and the WHO, while refusing to admit our own government failed us.
What’s even more disgusting is that you’re a communist sympathizer. Anytime someone has blame China for this virus (and the Chinese are to blame) you always blame the government (particular the president) for this virus.
I mean this with every fiber of my being. frick You and the communist fricking nag you rode in on. Low down POS of a so called American you call yourself.
And if I get ban for my response... it was damn well worth it.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:48 am to Cobrasize
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Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, a little-known figure before the coronavirus pandemic, has risen to prominence as Director-General of the World Health Organisation which is spearheading global responses to the virus.
Dr Tedros - who has never practised as a medical doctor - is a career politician who was born in what is now Eritrea, studied in the UK, then rose to the top of Ethiopia's government first as Health Minister and then Foreign Minister before being elected to lead the WHO in 2017.
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Indeed, it is not the first time that Dr Tedros has been accused of cosying up to China. Shortly after his election victory in 2017, it was alleged that Chinese diplomats had been heavily involved in lobbying for him.
UN records also show that Chinese contributions to both Ethiopia's aid budget and the WHO have substantially increased during times when he was in top leadership positions
Daily Mail
This article has a ton of damning information in it. What a scumbag
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However, he quickly mired himself in controversy by recommending African dictator Robert Mugabe as a WHO Goodwill Ambassador, amid allegations he trying to repay favours granted during the election.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:55 am to Tw1st3d
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Very good read - long but worth the timequote:
We are treating the wrong disease
And
What the media isn't telling you
Both are well worth reading!This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 10:45 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:57 am to TideWarrior
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This should be fun. The county and state prisons already offering early parole.
Apparently this is happening in other states as well.
A single judge (of three) in the circuit where I live tried to order a mass release of anybody held on less than $5,000 bond (which would have been pretty much anybody not charged with a major felony). The torches and pitchforks came out - with the other judges holding them too - and it got rolled way back to where only a few got released but they're not taking in a lot of low level stuff now. Those folks are getting walked through the booking process and released with a TBD court date.
There's a mix of motives behind the prisoner release moves. There's no doubt that a county jail is probably second only to a nursing home in terms of the best place to spread this or any other bug. Lots of unrelated folks placed close together for extended periods of time so thinning them out reduces the chances of infection. Having said that, the cold hard fact is that the budget is a bigger concern. If an inmate gets it while in custody, the bill for his care belongs to the county. A single one in ICU on a vent for 2 weeks could easily eat up a small county's inmate medical care budget for the entire year.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 9:58 am to Cobrasize
China has been aggressively courting much of East Africa for quite some time. They are giving billions of dollars without UN and US LBGTQXYZ strings attached. The result is that African countries want to take that money, and China gains allegiance from them. Uganda has a moderately large oil reserve that has been found. China wants access to it and may well get it.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:00 am to mistaken4193
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I hope this is true. Tweeted by Clay Travis so take it with a grain of salt.
It’s true. Here’s the projection.
For Alabama the projection dropped from 923 to 623. We’re expected to peak still in 2 weeks
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:04 am to The Spleen
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Multiple governors, including our own, refusing to issue stay-at-home orders until the virus was already entrenched in their states.
The stay at home order issued by our governor placed not a single new limitation on activities from the 3/27 order other than a 50% reduction in store capacity.
She issues it, and magically the state's projected death toll drops form 5,000 to 900 as if the title on the page meant anything at all.
The utter, absolute, complete truth is that any criticism of the Alabama restrictions that came after 3/27 and went away on 4/4 were made by people ignorant of what was already in place or being intentionally misleading to advance their political agendas - with the second being the most common reason by far.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:05 am to Cobrasize
The Chinese undeniably tried to stage a coverup for as long as they could, and the likelihood that the WHO aided and abetted them is extremely high. It is also almost certain that the Chinese have been persistently lying about their numbers. But by the time February rolled around their cover had been blown for a while though, so I'm not sure why so many of y'all think China and the WHO acting in bad faith somehow mitigates the U.S. federal and many state governments' attempts to downplay this and avoid taking serious action for as long as they did, and in some cases still are.
This post was edited on 4/8/20 at 10:05 am
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:16 am to The Spleen
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Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:19 am to Robot Santa
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I'm not sure why so many of y'all think China and the WHO acting in bad faith somehow mitigates the U.S. federal and many state governments' attempts to downplay this and avoid taking serious action for as long as they did, and in some cases still are.
I have no problem with people who think US responses are worth criticism expressing their opinions. I just want them to do it fairly. For example, on 3/11 word was leaking out that the POTUS was going to announce a shutdown of air travel between the US and Europe over corona (he did the next day). That same day, the mayor of NYC - which already had confirmed covid cases - was telling people to go to restaurants and ride the subway. Yet (sadly not shockingly), all you hear is the NYC mayor's claim that the feds are letting his city down. Nobody in the media seems willing to hold him accountable and we all know why.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:21 am to Robot Santa
Travel restrictions to China and Europe were a serious action that were fought by Democrats. However, I do believe Trump tried too hard to keep hysteria from happening and downplayed it. I understand what he was trying to do, but sometimes you just have to be blunt to get your point across
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:41 am to Cobrasize
Whoa, Bernie ending his presidential campaign. Will it be Biden, or will someone jump in at the last minute?
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:51 am to Robot Santa
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But by the time February rolled around their cover had been blown for a while though, so I'm not sure why so many of y'all think China and the WHO acting in bad faith somehow mitigates the U.S. federal and many state governments' attempts to downplay this and avoid taking serious action for as long as they did, and in some cases still are.
This is disingenuous. China's "cover" wasn't fully blown in early February; in fact, they were still actively withholding information regarding the transmission factors of the disease at that point.
The problem with that is WHO and the CDC use that information to determine the overall threat factor. WHO may or may not have been somewhat complicit in the suppression; I honestly don't know. But it's undeniable that China's lack of transparency regarding this disease helped make it a pandemic, and increased the death toll in other countries. In fact, the first recorded case of COVID-19 in the U.S., in Washington state, was announced on January 21. The infected person traveled directly from Wuhan City in China.
Despite being hampered by the lack of information, the U.S. declared a public health emergency regarding COVID-19 on January 31, and warned citizens not to travel to China on February 2.
The administration's response to this outbreak has been uneven, no doubt … too relaxed at first, too blunt and overreactive at times afterwards. But I, personally, have no doubt that this global crisis could have been significantly curtailed, if not completely avoided, had China (and possibly WHO) not withheld and suppressed information for as long as they did.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 10:58 am to paperwasp
Bernie bailed too soon with the sexual assault/rape claims that have been made against Biden. Lady named Tara Reid (not THAT Tara Reid) that worked for him in Washington. The charges are from many years ago but it will be interresting to see how the left deals with it after what they did to the Scotus Justice last year.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:00 am to Tw1st3d
I wonder who cut Bernie a check to drop out right now.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:00 am to Tw1st3d
I can see significant numbers of his voter base not showing up to vote again.
I wonder if the NY governor will jump in
I wonder if the NY governor will jump in
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:05 am to TideWarrior
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It is pretty sad that people think we need our government to hold our hand
Nowhere in my post did I say anything about the government holding anyone's hand, so your entire post is a strawman. There are things the government can do that are out of my control that could have mitigated the impact in this country that they failed to do, and they should be held accountable for that. There's even another report out this morning that people in HOmeland Security were sounding the alarm over this in November of last year, and our government didn't take any meaningful steps until February.
Posted on 4/8/20 at 11:09 am to Sauron
Nobody has had to respond to a true pandemic in 100 years. For that reason, everyone blew it off as alarmist. The few people who saw the true nature of the beast or even the possibilities were blown off because this is outside everyone's realm of experience. That doesn't make it right, but it explains a great deal of it.
The Chinese are the new mother fricking USSR and should not be trusted if they tell you the sun will come up tomorrow. Our government screwed up big time from the White House on down to the mayor of Mayberry RFD, but the Chinese should be charged with crimes against humanity by hiding both the severity and the spread of this disease. Had they sounded the alarm as they should have and let outside doctors in to help fight and quantify it, we wouldn't be here today. They did the same shite with SARS, it just wasn't as virulent and we all got lucky. But they MUST be ostracized by the rest of the world and treated like North Korea. They are one and the same, they are just a slicker, more politically correct version.
The Chinese are the new mother fricking USSR and should not be trusted if they tell you the sun will come up tomorrow. Our government screwed up big time from the White House on down to the mayor of Mayberry RFD, but the Chinese should be charged with crimes against humanity by hiding both the severity and the spread of this disease. Had they sounded the alarm as they should have and let outside doctors in to help fight and quantify it, we wouldn't be here today. They did the same shite with SARS, it just wasn't as virulent and we all got lucky. But they MUST be ostracized by the rest of the world and treated like North Korea. They are one and the same, they are just a slicker, more politically correct version.
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