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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)

Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:00 am to
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:00 am to
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I read the other day some article that showed working from home that some companies have gotten more work done. The problem though was they were working more hours from home then when at the job. Mostly due to working during commute time. So instead of driving they were already working. But the workers did not seem to mind and many companies are benefiting from it.


One of my past employer's experience with it was that in the short term this is exactly what happened. At first, there's a huge burst because the employees were happy to be working from home but over time it tailed off and got to the point where they just shut it down.

These were attorneys and similar professionals - people who could easily do the bulk of their job from anywhere they had a PC and access to the internet.

Again, everyone's experience will vary because we're all wired differently. Some people can be very productive and never tail off.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 9:03 am to
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If I'm a gov't leader and my city/state is flat broke, online education is sounding pretty good to me right now. Rather used that save money on basic infrastructure (roads and water b/c y'know I don't want a Flint situation happening).


At least in Alabama there'd be zero infrastructure fund gains. The state constitution and code dictate that certain revenue sources are earmarked for education. Converting those to general use revenue would require a statewide vote.

Good luck getting that passed.

Posted by VirgilCaine
Orchard Park
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 10:24 am to
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-Helps prepare people/companies for emergency situations when they have to work for home or can't physically get to the office, such as after a natural disaster, loss of power, etc. Took us several days just to get everyone fully up and running.
-Workers save money by not having to drive/commute to work.
-Can reduce traffic, leading to fewer crashes, shorter travel times, less congestion, and less wear and tear of the roadway. Saving money for the drivers/commuters as well as saving tax dollars.
-My commute is 15-30 each way. That's 30-60 minutes a week I get back if I work from home 1 day a week. Personally, I've been able to get 30 extra minutes of sleep or a workout in the morning without sacrificing sleep, and my evening workout can get done 30 minutes earlier.
-Can increase time spent with family. As well as potentially save money on childcare/vet fees.
-Can increase overall worker morale/mental health.
-Depending on the workload, workers may actually work faster at home. If I only have x amount of things on my list, I may try to knock them out as quickly as possible so that I can do some things around the house (chores, yardwork, watch tv, read, play xbox, etc) until I get a new task from work.


Actually good discussion on this topic in the thread. I'll chime in:

My experience is that working from home limited my overall effectiveness. I was still doing my work without issue, but never felt in a "groove". My personal preference is to be in the office more often. I also really enjoy being around my colleagues and work in an industry where collaboration is a requirement for success.

However, I believe most employers with the ability to do so, will offer WFH as an additional benefit to employees (1 flex day per week, or some other system). And I think that's great.

As another poster mentioned - each person is different and WFH is not a one-size-fits-all deal.
Posted by Master of Sinanju
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:20 am to
Our people loved working from home when this began. Now they are asking to come back, and our productivity numbers are dipping.
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:38 am to
That's the beauty, I would use the education money and invest in educational internet infrastructure. Any saved money can go towards trade schools, dollar for dollar internship/apprenticeship, etc.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 1:03 pm to
I got to go to the gym this morning.

It was awesome.
Posted by Fells
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:20 am to
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Our people loved working from home when this began. Now they are asking to come back, and our productivity numbers are dipping.




I'm hesitant to use this situation as a barometer, though there are certainly some lessons to be gained. A lot of people working from home because of this situation have kids and/or a spouse also in the house while they're working. That is common in the summer during normal times, but during normal times the kids have outlets away from the home to provide the parent working some time at home alone. VBS, pool, doing things with friends, etc. Add to it the kids are getting school assignments to work on and sometimes need help with, and it's just not a conducive environment for efficient work on a consistent basis. I've been WFH since around March 10, and I have some really efficient days, and some very unproductive days, but that is also the case at the office.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 3:45 pm to
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Los Angeles County’s stay-at-home orders will “with all certainty” be extended for the next three months, county Public Health Director Barbara Ferrer acknowledged during a Board of Supervisors meeting on Tuesday.

Ferrer, though she didn’t issue an official order, said that timeline would only change if there was a “dramatic change to the virus and tools at hand.”

L.A. County ‘with all certainty’ will keep stay-at-home orders in place through July
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 4:07 pm to
Good Lord.

Those people are crazy.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 4:11 pm to
They can’t freaking close down forever. Do they want to just go ahead and announce plans to become the first welfare state? No one works, you just sit at home for your crumbs and stay poor as hell.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 4:16 pm to
The Cal State schools announced they’re closed down through the fall semester too
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 5:08 pm to
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The Cal State schools announced they’re closed down through the fall semester too
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Brett McMurphy
@Brett_McMurphy

3 Mountain West schools - Fresno State, San Diego State & San Jose State - will not offer on-campus classes in fall semester. In all, 23 California universities will only have online fall classes, California State University Chancellor Timothy White announced
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83897 posts
Posted on 5/12/20 at 6:42 pm to
Just got a haircut for the first time in 2 months.

It's glorious.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 7:47 pm to
I've made no secret of the fact that I think the response to this in states like Georgia, Alabama, and Florida has been foolish, bordering on dangerous, but making decisions about what to do in September during May is equally foolish. Because at some point we do have to start slowly getting back to normal and dealing with cases as they come with individual quarantines, contact tracing, and testing. If our testing capacity is still so lacking 3 months from now that schools can't open...something has gone terribly wrong.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:04 pm to
Lucky bastard

I am hoping to get one next week when I have an off day
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/12/20 at 8:52 pm to
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I've made no secret of the fact that I think the response to this in states like Georgia, Alabama, and Florida has been foolish, bordering on dangerous, but making decisions about what to do in September during May is equally foolish. Because at some point we do have to start slowly getting back to normal and dealing with cases as they come with individual quarantines, contact tracing, and testing. If our testing capacity is still so lacking 3 months from now that schools can't open...something has gone terribly wrong.



Yeah, I tend to agree. Not sure how early universities will need to make calls about fall semesters since I'm sure a ton of planning will need to go into it but it seems premature right now.


Pure conjecture but my thought is that California coming out with the proposed 3 month extension is designed as a warning. Thinking it's better to propose the worst and then slowly open sooner.

Just from listening to interviews with many of the experts who are advising the federal and state governments, almost every one interviewed seems aghast that the Phase 1 level openings have been greeted by so many people seemingly going out of their way to push well beyond the limits.


I also think that there is certainly a pointed political message since a lot of local governments are expressing frustration about calls to re-open when they don't feel have they have the testing/tracing resources to meet the guidelines the CDC itself is setting.


This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 1:12 am
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:36 am to
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Lucky bastard

I am hoping to get one next week when I have an off day


My wife set us up a family appointment at a new place in downtown Prattville. The lady didn't use scissors to cut my hair. She used a straight razor. It was different and she did a really good job.

I walked down the street while my son and wife got theirs cut and was able to sit INSIDE a bar and have a beer.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83897 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 5:38 am to
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I also think that there is certainly a pointed political message since a lot of local governments are expressing frustration about calls to re-open when they don't feel have they have the testing/tracing resources to meet the guidelines the CDC itself is setting.


The local governments down here aren't frustrated though.

Sure, some "local" governments like New Orleans, Birmingham, Jackson, etc. have expressed their concerns, but as you said, that's political. It's interesting the leadership in those areas all come from the Left, no?

I'm not trying to derail this thread with politics, but everyone has to see the obvious politically divided approach to this situation.

This post was edited on 5/13/20 at 5:45 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 5/13/20 at 7:32 am to
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dealing with cases as they come with individual quarantines, contact tracing, and testing. If our testing capacity is still so lacking 3 months from now that schools can't open...something has gone terribly wrong.


Something has already gone terribly wrong because we don't have that almost 5 months now into this. And we've likely had enough information longer than that to start preparing for it and getting resources in place.


Wanna guess where there is a rigorous testing and tracing program right now? The White House. So while various White House figures publicly downplay the threat, behind closed doors they're taking it much more seriously.
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