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re: OT: Alabama Coronavirus Thread (see link in OP for case numbers and death totals in AL)
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:45 pm to TideWarrior
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:45 pm to TideWarrior
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:45 pm to TideWarrior
This is the issue here in NC and the gulf as well for private owners on the beach. If the government via the state and/or Corps of Engineers(federal) do a nourishment project in many cases they no longer have any rights to the beach in front of their house.
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After a nourishment project, the seaward boundary of oceanfront property is located where the mean high tide line was physically located prior to the project. The result is that the oceanfront property owner is no longer truly “oceanfront” because his or her property is separated from the water by a publicly owned nourished beach. The result is that the property owner no longer has littoral rights. She or he has no right to natural additions to the beach and, most importantly, has no littoral right of direct access to ocean waters. In other words, after a nourishment project, an adjacent property owner has no right of use of the beach that is different from, or superior to, the rights held by the general public.
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:46 pm to TidalSurge1
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Is this still a corona virus thread or is now a beach property thread?
Yeah, this has been the Week of Derailment for this thread.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:46 pm to TidalSurge1
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Is this still a corona virus thread or is now a beach property thread?
Go back to Costa Rica, pack a bowl, and hug a tree.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:48 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
I saw tomorrow is suppose to be nasty throughout the south regarding the weather. Which can really hinder those they may need to seek shelter while stay at home orders are in place.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:51 pm to TideWarrior
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I saw tomorrow is suppose to be nasty throughout the south regarding the weather. Which can really hinder those they may need to seek shelter while stay at home orders are in place.
The National Weather Service and Alabama Department of Public Health have jointly advised that seeking shelter during a tornado warning should be the first priority, taking what precautions one can against coronavirus. One problem, however, is that many community storm shelters are operated by individual cities, so those cities can choose not to open them. There are already some instances of that in Alabama.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 1:56 pm to phil4bama
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Huckabee et al are claiming they are infringing upon his property rights which extend down to the mean high water line.
If it's private property and not a public beach, they are correct.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:00 pm to Commander Data
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Regardless, testing sucked then I think it sucks now
When was that?
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:01 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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There are already some instances of that in Alabama.
Alexander City in Tallapoosa county has said they will not open their shelters. I suspect public pressure (maybe even a call from the governor or ADPH) will cause them to reverse that decision before tomorrow.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:01 pm to TideWarrior
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This is the issue here in NC and the gulf as well for private owners on the beach. If the government via the state and/or Corps of Engineers(federal) do a nourishment project in many cases they no longer have any rights to the beach in front of their house.
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After a nourishment project, the seaward boundary of oceanfront property is located where the mean high tide line was physically located prior to the project. The result is that the oceanfront property owner is no longer truly “oceanfront” because his or her property is separated from the water by a publicly owned nourished beach. The result is that the property owner no longer has littoral rights. She or he has no right to natural additions to the beach and, most importantly, has no littoral right of direct access to ocean waters. In other words, after a nourishment project, an adjacent property owner has no right of use of the beach that is different from, or superior to, the rights held by the general public.
Yep. My mom lives on Navarre Beach and the last time the Army Corps of Engineers agreed to renourish the beach there, the property leaseholders (it's technically gov't land with 99 year leases) were told that to have the beach renourished, they had to give up their property rights further up the beach.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:02 pm to Evolved Simian
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If it's private property and not a public beach, they are correct.
This is a good read regarding FL and their beaches with has what rights.
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:07 pm to TideWarrior
Our Congressman for the 2nd District of Florida (the Panhandle from Panama City up to Alabama line and down to Cedar Key/Ocala area), Neal Dunn, MD, tested positive yesterday.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:09 pm to JustGetItRight
Yeah it wasn't long after I seen the Alex City statement that Ivey released hers about shelters taking precedent so I think that may change their mind. Who knows nowadays though.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:15 pm to phil4bama
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Yep. My mom lives on Navarre Beach and the last time the Army Corps of Engineers agreed to renourish the beach there, the property leaseholders (it's technically gov't land with 99 year leases) were told that to have the beach renourished, they had to give up their property rights further up the beach.
Since the coastal beaches here in some places eroding from 6 to 10 feet a year there has been a huge fight over this. Since so many of the property owners have been fighting for the private use of the beach vs public after nourishment projects many people in those counties and around the state are wanting no more public tax dollars should be used.
So what is happening now in some areas on the coastline where private property owners are trying to sue the government is no longer providing beach nourishment. So the owners will have to invest to fix it or once the property, especially the house, starts going under water by law it is dangerous and a nuisance the government is required to demolition it. Which they can bill the property owner for that cost as well.
So basically the local and state governments are saying instead of dragging this out in court have your private beach while lasts.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:35 pm to phil4bama
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You know, I get it, not wanting someone coming up and knocking on your back door. But if someone is walking 6 feet across the "mean high tide line" on your property minding their own business, just walking along the beach, get the frick over yourself. If you can't live with that, don't buy on the beach.
How about you just learn to stay off private property.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:39 pm to JustGetItRight
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Alexander City in Tallapoosa county has said they will not open their shelters
You've got to be kidding me.
Even if you were to 100% get the coronavirus in a shelter, you still fair a better chance of survival than to stay in a trailer in the middle of an EF4
Posted on 4/11/20 at 2:45 pm to East Coast Band
Yea, these storms are being predicting as really bad ones. Ivey needs to get involved and force them to open.
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:18 pm to Cobrasize
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:22 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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