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re: On a scale of 1 to 10, what is your opinion of our schedule?
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:35 pm to East Coast Band
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:35 pm to East Coast Band
It's a shitty, soft, lame schedule and i'm tired of it.
College football is a multi-billion dollar industry and unlike the NFL where there's 16 regular season games and real parity. College football fans only have 12 regular season games and very little parity. If we're lucky, 8 of those 12 games are actually worth watching.
All this money in college football and we only rate maybe 8 decent games a year. It's a shitty product the conferences and networks are putting out there and personally i'm sick of it.
Every power five team needs to schedule 10 power five games. Anything less is bullshite.
I can stomach alabama losing a football game or two but what i can't stomach any longer is wasting my time watching alabama play the citadels of the world. Every game like that should be boycotted.
And speaking of the citadel, you know what i'll be doing when alabama's playing them? Changing the channel and watching a real football game.
College football is a multi-billion dollar industry and unlike the NFL where there's 16 regular season games and real parity. College football fans only have 12 regular season games and very little parity. If we're lucky, 8 of those 12 games are actually worth watching.
All this money in college football and we only rate maybe 8 decent games a year. It's a shitty product the conferences and networks are putting out there and personally i'm sick of it.
Every power five team needs to schedule 10 power five games. Anything less is bullshite.
I can stomach alabama losing a football game or two but what i can't stomach any longer is wasting my time watching alabama play the citadels of the world. Every game like that should be boycotted.
And speaking of the citadel, you know what i'll be doing when alabama's playing them? Changing the channel and watching a real football game.
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Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:09 am to TomRollTideRitter
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The two conferences that haven't missed the playoff are the two that only play 8 conference games. As a fan, I'd like nine conference games, but eight is better for getting teams in under the current system.
This.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:45 am to East Coast Band
On one hand I wanna see a better schedule, but on the other hand I can’t complain bc we’ve been to the playoffs 4 straight years now and will likely make it 5 this year.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 7:45 am to narddogg81
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Meh. It's no worse than most of that other top tier teams are scheduling. I'm sure when it was arranged, the Louisville game looked like a bigger deal
It is with the 8 game conference schedule. The B1G has 10 games against power 5 teams now, and Bama has 9.
I'm not debating if LSU is better than Michigan or if Auburn is better than Penn State. I'm just saying if the SEC likes having 8 conference games, then have them schedule 2 P5 teams OOC. I don't care either way but David Shaw's comments on the topic were interesting as he is well respected:
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What I mean by that is, if you look at USC last year, to play 11 straight games without a bye -- all Division I opponents, no I-AA opponents, and play right into the Pac-12 championship game and win that one -- that to me is more impressive than just having a strong schedule but then having a Week 7 bye, or a Week 8 I-AA opponent, which kind of gives you a break."
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:09 am to Buckeye06
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It is with the 8 game conference schedule. The B1G has 10 games against power 5 teams now, and Bama has 9.
Yeah, I agree (and OSU plays 11 Power 5 teams in 2018). The SEC needs to go to a 9 game conference schedule...it may not bite us this year but sooner or later it will...and we won't have a valid argument when it does...
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 9:30 am
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:42 am to Evolved Simian
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The two conferences that haven't missed the playoff are the two that only play 8 conference games. As a fan, I'd like nine conference games, but eight is better for getting teams in under the current system.
Yeah i feel ya man but at what point do we say enough is enough ya know?
A minimum three garbage games a season, sometimes four and depending how bad the conference is, five or more. No kidding really.
This year alabama plays four OOC games, all four are garbage. I know louisville is a power five team but in my opinion, power five in name only. I don't care how far out you schedule louisville. The chances of louisville sucking when you play them are really high. This team should've never been scheduled.
Anyway, if this is the bullshite scheduling college football fans have to endure (i really don't follow the nfl) to get to the playoff, then i'm not interested in the playoff.
I would rather watch alabama or any other power five team play a season of good, exciting football and not make the playoff than watch alabama make the playoff after only playing 3 or 4 games where they might really be challenged. What a lame season that is.
We dump alot of money into this sport and this scheduling is as good as it can get? Nope, save that.
I'll watch alabama play only nine regular season football games this year. I'm boycotting the others. Even espn "the ocho" needs to generate revenue and this year, they ain't gettin' dime one outta me.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 9:46 am
Posted on 8/6/18 at 9:48 am to OldPete
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Yeah, I agree (and OSU plays 11 Power 5 teams in 2018). The SEC needs to go to a 9 game conference schedule...it may not bite us this year but sooner or later it will...and we won't have a valid argument when it does...
You're right.
And with louisville being a power five team in name only. This could absolutely be the year it bites us.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 1:59 pm to OldPete
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OSU plays 11 Power 5
I mean I guess Oregon State counts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:37 pm to East Coast Band
I would like to see us go to a 9th conference game and eliminate the FCS game all together. Give me a strong Power 5 game, a mid-tier Power 5, and then a Group of 5 game along with a 9 game SEC slate.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:42 pm to Buckeye06
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I mean I guess Oregon State counts
Better than an FCS school or a middle of the road Group of 5 team...
Ohio State seems to have really cranked up their OOC schedule lately. Been critical of it in the past but the next few years it looks pretty good. Read where y'all have home and homes scheduled with both Notre Dame and Texas in the same back-to-back years (2022 & 2023)...that's pretty impressive and is sure to give you an edge if y'all are in the play-off hunt either of those years...
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:23 pm to OldPete
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Better than an FCS school or a middle of the road Group of 5 team...
Oregon State lost by 31 to 7-6 Colorado State and beat 0-11 Portland State by a field goal, so I'd say they're worse than almost all of the G5 and probably many FCS teams as well.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:27 pm to East Coast Band
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IMO, it wasn't the fact that tOSU lost 2 games, they got crushed in 2 games.
I agree, but that doesn't change that with eight conference games there's a 1/3 chance they don't even play Iowa.
They also could've easily played an Oregon level opponent instead of Oklahoma.
With only one loss, Ohio State gets in over us last year with little debate.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 4:32 pm to OldPete
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The SEC needs to go to a 9 game conference schedule...it may not bite us this year but sooner or later it will
Will it? It hasn't bitten anyone yet whereas a nine game conference schedule bit the Pac12 and B1G last year.
A hard OOC hurt Penn State in 2016 as well. Washington got in playing Rutgers, Idaho, and Portland State. Penn State played 8 win Pitt, AAC champion Temple, and Kent State, lost one of those games, and got left out.
I don't see any example of a hard schedule benefiting a team in terms of making the playoff. Maybe 2014 Ohio State over Baylor, but TCU played a better schedule than Ohio State and was ranked 6th that year.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 5:08 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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TCU played a better schedule than Ohio State and was ranked 6th that year
No they didn't. That is completely false. OSU beat a top 10 MSU on the road and a top 15 Wisconsin by 60 on a neutral field.
TCU had a home win over OU and a home win over KSU. OU being beat by OSU end of year hurt their schedule strength a lot (not sure OU was ranked at 8-4).
Anyway, if everyone schedules up it will be easier to compare at end of year. However, no reason to do it if you win every tiebreaker like Bama does in 2018/2019
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:16 pm to Me so gumpy
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I know louisville is a power five team but in my opinion, power five in name only. I don't care how far out you schedule louisville. The chances of louisville sucking when you play them are really high.
That's not even remotely true with Petrino as a coach. He's 75-18 in the 8 years he's coached there, and he's been to 8 bowl games.
Also, they weren't scheduled that far out. The contract was announced three years ago tomorrow.
Posted on 8/6/18 at 6:24 pm to Me so gumpy
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I would rather watch alabama or any other power five team play a season of good, exciting football and not make the playoff than watch alabama make the playoff after only playing 3 or 4 games where they might really be challenged.
That's not the way football works at any level, from little league to the pros. No good team ever has more than a handful of games where they are challenged. And it's not possible to ever change that, unless you want to eliminate conferences and create just a league of the top 20 or so teams in the country.
ETA - It's easy to forget that Saban won't always be here and OOC games won't necessarily be so easy anymore. In the 28 years since I was a freshman at UA, we've had a number of losses to G5 teams. Nine to be exact.
Realistically, if we ever go to 9 conference games, we should have 1 P5 and two G5 on the schedule in addition.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 7:50 pm
Posted on 8/6/18 at 10:22 pm to Buckeye06
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No they didn't. That is completely false. OSU beat a top 10 MSU on the road and a top 15 Wisconsin by 60 on a neutral field.
Two good wins doesn't make up for the lack of depth the B1G had that year. MSU and Wisconsin were only ranked high because they beat up on the terrible middle class of the B1G that year.
OOC the B1G was awful in 2014 before the bowls. Wisconsin, Michigan State, Ohio State, and Michigan all lost to their lone P5 opponent. The only good OOC win the B1G had was Indiana beating Missouri. That was the only OOC win against a P5 team with a winning record any of Ohio State's B1G opponents had that season.
Compare that to the Big XII - TCU beat Minnesota, WVU beat Maryland, OU beat Tennessee, Iowa State beat Iowa. Even the Big XII's OOC losses weren't bad.
The Big XII looked the better conference before the bowls.
This post was edited on 8/6/18 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:11 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Will it? It hasn't bitten anyone yet
It bit TCU in 2014...
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TCU played a better schedule than Ohio State and was ranked 6th that year
That's not true...the major college rankings (Sagarin, Congrove, Colley, Massey, Billingsley) had OSU (as well as the other play-off participants) with a much harder strength of schedule than TCU...it wasn't even close...
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:20 am to TomRollTideRitter
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Two good wins doesn't make up for the lack of depth the B1G had that year. MSU and Wisconsin were only ranked high because they beat up on the terrible middle class of the B1G that year.
Actually it does. What is the difference in the B1G in 2014 and the SEC last year? 3 good teams and the rest average to below average. OSU won the NCG like Bama, and MSU was on the verge (UGA made it) and Wisky/Auburn were a bounce or two away.
Posted on 8/7/18 at 8:29 am to East Coast Band
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We need to set the example and start scheduling tougher games.
Uh, we did back in 2008 with the Clemson game to open the season. We've played in every one of those type games almost every year since. Most have turned into pretty boring games though. Those games are common across the board now. Not sure what else you want us to do. Yes, the rent-a-win games are boring, but you have to have those on the schedule.
I don't really get worked up about the schedule. I'd like to see those neutral site games move to on campus though.
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