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re: ***Official Fire Anthony Grant Thread***
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:34 pm to RTR America
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:34 pm to RTR America
yes but are they willing to put it into men's BB since the FB team is the one brining most of it in. And how much will you pay for an elite coach..an Elite coach is not coming to Bama..You got to find the next coach K who is an up and comer and most thought AG was that person
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:42 pm to mrbroker
Bama could easily snag Wichita guy or really any mid major if money is the main thing.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:43 pm to mrbroker
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yes but are they willing to put it into men's BB since the FB team is the one brining most of it in.
Imagine how much more you would make with a successful basketball team. It is the same reason they are investing so much money into renovating the baseball stadium.
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nd how much will you pay for an elite coach
You can find one for as much as we are paying Grant
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Anthony Grant's $1.83 million annual salary at Alabama appears to place him among the 20 highest-paid men's basketball coaches in the country.
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.an Elite coach is not coming to Bama.
Why not?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:43 pm to JordonfortheJ
and that was my point..how much would they spend..I don't think they spend more then 2 m.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:44 pm to JordonfortheJ
yes, we certainly should be able to attract the next up and coming coach. definitely not always going to succeed with that, since we're 0-2 in trying the last up and coming coaches here.
maybe third time will be the charm.
maybe third time will be the charm.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:49 pm to JordonfortheJ
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Bama could easily snag Wichita guy or really any mid major if money is the main thing.
"Would we" not "could we" is the question. None of the elite mid-major coaches are going to come here unless we fork out the cash right away. Marshall has been offered several well-paid, high-major coaching job and he has been holding out for an extremely high starting offer.
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Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:49 pm to mrbroker
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.I don't think they spend more then 2 m.
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Mike Krzyzewski – Duke: $4.7 million
Rick Pitino – Louisville: $4,812,769 (Base salary $3.9 million, $912,769 bonus)
Billy Donovan – Florida: $3.639 million
Tom Izzo – Michigan State: $3,598,700 (Base salary $3.12 million, $477,800 bonus)
John Calipari – Kentucky: $5,387,978 (Base salary $4.987 million, $400,400 bonus)
Bill Self – Kansas: $3.633 million
Thad Matta – Ohio State: $3.2 million
Buzz Williams – Marquette: $2.834 million
Rick Barnes – Texas: $2.4 million
Matt Painter – Purdue: $2.325 million
Sean Miller – University of Arizona: $2.3 million
Tom Crean – Indiana: $2.240 million
John Beilein – Michigan: $2.206 million
Bo Ryan – Wisconsin: $2.175 million
Bob Huggins – West Virginia: $2 million
These are the only coaches making more than 2 million
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:51 pm to RTR America
i was talking about Bama will probably not spend more then 2 mil..and not one person on that list would come to Bama.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:52 pm to RTR America
that fact that this is bumped... EVERY GAME is evidence that there needs to be a change
Posted on 12/21/13 at 8:59 pm to mrbroker
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i was talking about Bama will probably not spend more then 2 mil..and not one person on that list would come to Bama.
And my point was that there are only 15 coaches in all of college basketball that make that much. Guess who was the very next coach on that list?
Posted on 12/21/13 at 9:03 pm to RTR America
so what are you trying to say..I just don't think Bama will pay top dollar for a BB coach..let's face it..we are nothing more then a mid major..we are an average program in BB in a BCS conference. We are no better in the past 30 years then UAB. Teams like Butler and Conzago make us look like chump change. I don't know why a good coach would drop his current gig to come to us unless he is a young up and comer who sees himself making more money at Bama. Heck, at this point I would hire the Uab coach and I am pretty sure we can pay more then UAB. So what if we are paying AG just under 2 mil..that return on our investment sucks.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 9:08 pm to mrbroker
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.I just don't think Bama will pay top dollar for a BB coach.
WE DO RIGHT NOW
There are probably 50 better coaches that are making less than he is.Posted on 12/21/13 at 9:12 pm to RTR America
I agree with you but how much more will Bama pay to bring in someone. the new guy is going to want more then what AG is making to clean up his mess and i don't think the power people at Bama are going to do that. So we got to keep AG or hire an Asstant who is willing to come for 1-1.5 mil or hire an unknown HC who has proven over time he can get it done.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 9:24 pm to JordonfortheJ
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Bama could easily snag Wichita guy or really any mid major if money is the main thing.
The Wichita State coach has a reputation for not working well with others. I don't have any details why, just what I heard during UT's search after Pearl was fired.
Posted on 12/21/13 at 9:59 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
I think the better question is: What top coach will come here? Even if Bama offers the money, if a better program offers the same, what are the chances of them coming here?
I'll be at Blazer games the rest of the season . . .
I'll be at Blazer games the rest of the season . . .
Posted on 12/21/13 at 10:06 pm to mrbroker
Just got home and saw what I knew would happen. Grant really knows how to lose a game...
Posted on 12/22/13 at 12:34 am to mrbroker
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how much more will Bama pay to bring in someone. the new guy is going to want more then what AG is making to clean up his mess
As posted above, not that many coaches make more than Grant, so a lot of guys would gladly take anywhere from 1.5-1.8 million and try to rebuild our program. To get Marshall, I think we'd have to offer about 2.1 million a year. I do think Alabama would do that. I also think Alabama has enough resources to convince Ben Howland to coach here. That's why I hope we don't give Grant the 14/15 season and fire him after this season. Someone is going to scoop up those guys and we'll miss out. Grant isn't the answer. He was most successful with Gottfried's recruits. It's time to cut our losses and try to find someone better. Can we guarantee that they'll be better than Grant? No. But it's not worth keeping Grant and being consistently mediocre.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 10:22 am to Bryant91092
Ben Howland is itching to come back...just saying. LINK
Posted on 12/22/13 at 11:45 am to Bryant91092
"Grant's recruits" This is where I'll probably always (and the ONLY time) feel a bit sorry for the guy. He recruited well and got HUGE landings in Trevor Lacy and Devonta Pollard. Pollard ended up being a bust in every way possible and Lacy and Grant just didn't click so that one's on him a bit. Moussa was a top JUCO and Hankerson looked to a diamond in the rough, but everyone keep leaving!!!
This started happening at the end of the Gottfried era too... our senior classes became shells off the what they were 4 years ago.
This started happening at the end of the Gottfried era too... our senior classes became shells off the what they were 4 years ago.
Posted on 12/22/13 at 11:59 am to Nimbus2000
That's true but when you look at this team on paper, we should be much better than we are. Our core group of contributors (Releford, Levi, Cooper, Jacobs) were 4 stars recruits who have been playing heavy minutes for 3+ years now. This is a veteran team but doesn't play like one.
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