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re: Offense/Defense Regression/Progression

Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:24 pm to
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
4655 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:24 pm to
We are what we are in 2025 and the people who wrongly think we have the best talent in the conference don’t want to hear it, but we probably overachieved to an extent in the winning streak.

If no steps are taken to improve the running game for 2026 … and again, this offense is never going to resemble ours from 2009, that ship has irrevocably sailed … that’s when I am going to start questioning whether we have the right staff.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
20224 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:48 pm to
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Good lord people, get a grip
We have a lot of morons on this board with zero clue about football, a whole bunch of trolls (probably fans of other teams). They’re the ones blaming coaches, Ty or most of the players. A few (Formby for example) deserve a lot of the criticism. At the same time however he might be fine in a different scheme.

We might have 20% who have any clue at all. I know I’m being optimistic here, the pick six yesterday is a litmus test honestly for the lack of knowledge and we’re seeing a LOT of failures there.

We need to be more physical in the trenches. Oklahoma was clearly so yesterday. That’s not a new development, we’ve been getting less physical for years. Part of it is now the way the transfer portal works. Getting players to sit for 2 years while they develop is getting more difficult. If you miss on a player or 2, it’s a significant setback. Teams are still trying to figure out how the dynamics are going to work there.
Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
4723 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 1:49 pm to
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We just put up 400 yards, 5/9 drives >60 yards, and 21 points + a missed field goal against a top 10 defense

Good lord people, get a grip

Most of that was while we were trailing. We did nothing after we got the lead. BV adjusted and grubb didn't.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 2:12 pm
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16146 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:10 pm to
Run game isn’t good but we would’ve had a better chance to win yesterday had we handed it off 50 times.
Posted by denverexpat
Member since Oct 2019
27 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:14 pm to
the stats show we get worse in the second half...its why games are close.

Alabama scoring in the 2nd half this season
FSU 10 points
ULM 31 points
Wisconsin 17 points
Georgia 0 points
Vandy 16 points
Missouri 10 points
Tennessee 14 points
South Carolina 15 points
LSU 3 points
Oklahoma 7 points

averaging 8 points in the 2nd half of conference games - that's going to catch up to us and it did
Posted by Kcstills17
Member since Nov 2017
12415 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:21 pm to
We should have close to 600 yards. We had like 100 yards in the second half. Our fall offs have to stop in these second halves every week
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16146 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:47 pm to
Offense peaked in the first half of the Georgia game.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4581 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:53 pm to
phil gets it. yes we need a running game but turnover cost us dearly yesterday, all at the worst times.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2690 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:55 pm to
We aren’t good in the second half because good coaches adjust. We do not adjust. We regress and turtle in second halves. It is what it is.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
16146 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 3:57 pm to
I think you mean offensively we don’t adjust and I don’t know how anyone can argue with that.
Posted by RescueT
Jackson MS
Member since Nov 2019
2690 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 4:04 pm to
Yes offensively. We have a really good defensive unit that usually tightens down even more
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11761 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 5:33 pm to
In case Ystar doesn’t know the rules of the game, they don’t award you a single point for yardage or moving the ball between the twenties. The offense rolled up 400+ yards but didn’t finish drives, turned it over that led to 17 points the other way, and scored a measly 21 points. So their offense only had to score 6 points unassisted to win. They did. Yes, the offense got beat. 21 minus 17 points off turnovers = 4 points. Oklahoma scored 6. 6 is greater than 4.
The only complaint you could possibly have against the defense was one of OU’s TDs off a turnover could have maybe been held to 3. But that’s asking a lot of your defense that did a helluva job yesterday.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19058 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 5:39 pm to
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In case Ystar doesn’t know the rules of the game, they don’t award you a single point for yardage or moving the ball between the twenties. The offense rolled up 400+ yards but didn’t finish drives, turned it over that led to 17 points the other way,


Yeah because our QB killed two scoring opportunities and our kicker killed another.

Which is what I have been saying and what you guys are going to hear everyone say all week
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11112 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 5:48 pm to
Can’t shorten a game by design and have one RZ possession end in a pick six and another end in a missed FGA. We’re our own worst enemy when long possessions end due to turnovers and missed kicks.
Posted by BFANLC
The Beach
Member since Oct 2007
22551 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:19 pm to
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We are a one dimensional offense who can't run the football


We weren't one dimensional last year.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24376 posts
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:27 pm to
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We weren't one dimensional last year.

We kinda were. Milroe struggled big time down the stretch passing wise. Post UGA and excluding Mercer he threw 4 TDs vs 10 INTs.

Just like last season, we’re left with a team with stark deficits that make it easier for defenses to counter
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