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Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:18 am to
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:18 am to
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I mean, I understand where they are coming from. A lot of people have hitched their wagons to the federal money that comes in to this state and many many people have gotten very rich from it. I havent. If Huntsville were just a sleepy little town, it wouldnt be a big deal to me. If we didnt have people moving here in droves, id still be just fine.

There is a cost to goodies acquired from DC. Id argue we havent even begun to really pay that cost. We have little sovereignty as a state when the federal government has the ability to pull a massive rug out from underneath us. Id much rather have a state that brings in opportunity because we a business friendly, have low taxes and regulations and have nice, hardworking people.


Totally agree with all of this. Well stated.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
83807 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:34 am to
Memaw may not be the best governor in the country, but she just won a point in my book.

An Alabama high school basketball team say they were forced to choose faith over a tournament game. The governor is demanding answers

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Alabama’s governor is demanding answers after a high school basketball team say they were forced to choose between their faith or a game.

Oakwood Adventist Academy is a Seventh-Day Adventist school in Huntsville, located 100 miles north of Birmingham. Their men’s basketball team had advanced to the semifinals of the state tournament last week, the school’s Athletic Director, Calvin Morton, told CNN Wednesday.

But the regional semifinal game was set for Saturday, February 19 at 4:30 p.m., and would interfere with Sabbath, which is observed from sundown Friday to sundown on Saturday.

Morton said he emailed the Alabama High School Athletic Association (AHSAA) to ask if they could play at 7:30 p.m. instead, after sunset, to meet their religious beliefs.

That request was denied.

“We weren’t asking for a change of stadium or venue or a change of a different day,” Morton told CNN. “It was a simple two-to-three hour game change … which we thought was a reasonable ask.”

The other teams participating in the tournament were willing to accommodate and swap game times, Morton said. When he relayed that message to AHSAA in a follow up, they still denied the change.

AHSAA told CNN they have no comment at this time.

Morton said they had a team meeting and everyone was on the same page: They would forfeit. “We were taken aback and upset that they weren’t going to play,” Morton said.

Now, Governor Kay Ivey is stepping in and demanding answers from the association.

Ivey took to Twitter on Tuesday to share the letters she sent to AHSAA Director Alvin Briggs and Judy Chiles-Dent, Oakwood’s principal.

“I am writing to express my profound concern – and to get some answers – about the alleged treatment of Oakwood Adventist Academy,” Ivey wrote in the letter to Briggs.

That letter goes on to list questions for the organization that she demands answers to. These include: “Which AHSAA employees were responsible for making this decision?” and “How can we as a State ensure that something like this never occurs again?”


In her letter to Principal Chiles-Dent, Ivey offered solidarity.

“The idea that a team like Oakwood could be denied a chance to compete based on its faith – without even the most modest of accommodations – is deeply concerning,” Ivey’s letter reads.

The governor went on to invite the principal, players and coaches of the basketball team to the Alabama Capitol to celebrate the team’s achievements and tell her about their time in the tournament. The team plans to accept Governor Ivey’s invitation and hope they can meet her in the next week, Morton said.

“It’s great that we have that support for us,” Morton added. “It’s not just for Oakland Adventist Academy, it’s for any other school or academy that has religious values or beliefs.”

Despite their forced forfeit of the game, the team still traveled to the tournament at Jacksonville State University to cheer on the other teams, according to CNN affiliate WAFF.

The team’s senior captain, Raynon Andrews, told WAFF they have no regrets about their decision.

“There is a whole Facebook community, there are people all around the world texting parents, saying how proud they are of us,” Andrews said. “That means a lot.”


What a ridiculous decision by the AHSAA. Fire those idiots on the spot.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 9:36 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63882 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:01 am to
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What a ridiculous decision by the AHSAA. Fire those idiots on the spot.


Totally agree. It seems like the AHSAA is constantly in the news for making completely nonsensical decisions that have nothing at all to do with competition or fairness.

Definite softball for Ivey, but she didn't have to get involved at all so it's commendable that she did.
Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
5102 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:03 am to
Oh, look at the staff members...

LINK


Jamie Lee is over Basketball.
Posted by In Hsv
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2011
342 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:07 am to
So most of North Alabama is quite happy with what Huntsville is experiencing, hence the re-election of said officials. Truth be local officials and the perks of N.A. Has brought in the influx of jobs. State officials are quick to the photo ops but lend little support.
Also it is amazing how it's always" doesn't affect me"is the criteria for what's good or bad. Probably why Alabama is last in most measurable metrics.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16160 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:11 am to
Frick a letter from Ivey.

A bill needs to drop in both houses today prohibiting public schools from membership in the AHSAA, creating a new oversight organization, and barring anyone holding a leadership position at the AHSAA from holding a similar position in the new organization.

Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:13 am to
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People keep saying this...the only politicians that did good for me were the founding fathers of this country who wrote and signed the Constitution. I dont need Richard Shelby to lift a finger for me. Im sure he secured billion of federal funding for Alabama that is now used as a leash to keep our state in line. I dont need NASA or federal projects to put food on my table and Alabamians didnt need all that before Richard Shelby.
How exactly is any of the federal funding been used to "keep us in line"?
To not at least acknowledge the benefits our state (and YOU) have received from federal money is not only very short-sighted, but ridiculously stupid.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:19 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63882 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:23 am to
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How exactly is any of the federal funding been used to "keep us in line"?


All federal funding comes with strings. It is foolish to pretend otherwise.

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To not at least acknowledge the benefits our state (and YOU) have received from federal money is not only very short-sighted, but ridiculously stupid.


Just because something may benefit you in some small way does not mean it is necessarily good.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:25 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63882 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:24 am to
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Jamie Lee is over Basketball.


I'm not familiar with that person. Who is he?
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:30 am to
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Given what's happening in the Ukraine, would we want a typical warmonger, DC politician, Richard Shelby/John McCain/Mitt Romney/Chuck Schumer/etc-type in office right now, or a Trump-style isolationist Republican?


You put Richard Shelby and Chuck Schumer into the same group!
So I guess that makes Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump running buddies since they both want to become more isolationist.
Your "bean-counter" mentality really needs to broaden its political perspective...it makes you appear a bit simple.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:36 am to
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All federal funding comes with strings. It is foolish to pretend otherwise.
Lets hear about those "strings" up in Huntsville for example, that are a detriment to the state!...Then we'll talk about all the benefits it gives us!
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:41 am to
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Just because something may benefit you in some small way does not mean it is necessarily good.


Again with generalizations!
How about this,"There's usually SOMETHING negative about ALL things positive!"

We can run crap like that down until the cows come home!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63882 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:54 am to
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You put Richard Shelby and Chuck Schumer into the same group!


As far as war is involved, they're the same.

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So I guess that makes Bernie Sanders and Donald Trump running buddies since they both want to become more isolationist.


AOC and Matt Gaetz both signed a letter telling Biden not to get involved in the Ukraine. As far as war is involved, they're the same.

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Your "bean-counter" mentality really needs to broaden its political perspective...it makes you appear a bit simple.


Your inability to analyze people's views on separate issues apart from their party affiliation makes you look like a complete moron.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
63882 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:55 am to
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Again with generalizations!
How about this,"There's usually SOMETHING negative about ALL things positive!"

We can run crap like that down until the cows come home!


When it comes to federal funding, the positives end at the money received. Even the "economic benefits" you attempt to point to will completely evaporate if our federal government continues accumulating debt like that's the entire purpose of its existence.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 11:02 am
Posted by In Hsv
Huntsville
Member since Oct 2011
342 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:04 am to
That funding has provided:
Highest per capita income
Highest education level
Most PHD 's per capita
Most desirable place to live instate
Fastest growing metro area
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:13 am to
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Your inability to analyze people's views on separate issues apart from their party affiliation makes you look like a complete moron.

The KING OF "GENERALIZATIONS"
is trying to lecture anybody about viewing people on ONE particular issue!
Your posts are so politically agendized that they "move" all over the board. That technique is one of the most disgusting qualities of modern politicians...
Biden's people have made it a "science", a it looks like you were an excellent student.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:15 am to
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That funding has provided:
Highest per capita income
Highest education level
Most PHD 's per capita
Most desirable place to live instate
Fastest growing metro area

I'm afraid we're wasting out time with this clown.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30966 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:21 am to
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When it comes to federal funding, the positives end at the money received
bullshite!
How can you not realized the ongoing benefits to the people of the cities, counties, and the state?
You say you're a CPA and you can't appreciate the economic benefits to the people?...I find that impossible to believe!
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:38 am to
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That funding has provided:
Highest per capita income
Highest education level
Most PHD 's per capita
Most desirable place to live instate
Fastest growing metro area


"But, muh fear!!"
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 11:40 am
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3771 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:43 am to
Alabama conservatives were just fine milking the federal teet under FDR. What changed?
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 11:45 am
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