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re: Off Topic: Governor's race. Walt Maddox vs. Kay Ivey
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:50 am to IB4bama
Posted on 10/4/18 at 7:50 am to IB4bama
I still think Jones votes in favor of a cleaner appointee. I dont think Kavanaugh did everything he's accused of, but there's way too much smoke for him to have never done anything in that regard.
There could be other options IMO
There could be other options IMO
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Posted on 10/4/18 at 8:31 am to stomp
Yeah. Jones has actually done pretty well so far.
Unfortunately, most people still won't be able to see past the D by his name. I think Jones is mainly voting No because the republicans are try to rush it through. He'd be more open to confirming it if they would just push the vote back and actually let an investigation run it's course.
Unfortunately, most people still won't be able to see past the D by his name. I think Jones is mainly voting No because the republicans are try to rush it through. He'd be more open to confirming it if they would just push the vote back and actually let an investigation run it's course.
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 8:35 am
Posted on 10/4/18 at 8:38 am to stomp
There is no way Jones votes yes for any appointee - he won't be the lone D that secures the nomination. He may, however, find a way to not vote.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 8:53 am to FairhopeTider
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And I have no idea what Maddox’s strategy is.
He's going after younger voters, black voters, and people that don't usually vote.
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It was going to be an uphill battle regardless but he really hasn’t done anything to make any kind of noise.
He's made more noise than Ivey, but that's not saying much. Sucks she can just sit back and let the R next to her name carry her to victory.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:08 am to lion
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There is no way Jones votes yes for any appointee
Well that's not really true. He's voted in favor of most, if not all, of the judicial nominees that have been voted on.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:38 am to The Spleen
quote:apples and oranges. I should clarify, in a contentious case like this one, he's not going to be the lone wolf crossing over the line.
Well that's not really true. He's voted in favor of most, if not all, of the judicial nominees that have been voted on.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:48 am to lion
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he's not going to be the lone wolf crossing over the line.
Why not?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 9:58 am to pvilleguru
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Why not?
Because partisan Jr. Senators vote like the party tells them to.
ALL politicians are worthless pieces of shite. Bottom line is they try and appease the masses. Once you get outside a group of 3 to 4 people, you cannot please them all. Politicians want to do as little as possible to keep from pissing people off, yet make it look like they have done something in order to get re-elected.
As Quartz reports, in 2015 the median net worth of a US Senator was $3.2 million, for a Congress member it was $1.1 million, and for members of the House of Representatives it was $900,000.
US Senator/Congressman Salary/House of Rep Salary $174k/year
How do you become a millionaire on that salary.
Useless turds....the entire lot of em'. I wouldn't piss down their throats if their guts was on fire.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:03 am to pvilleguru
quote:Why would he? It doesn't benefit him in any way, and that's all that matters. It's not going to get him re-elected.
Why not?
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:05 am to Bolivar Shagnasty
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Bottom line is they try and appease the masses. Once you get outside a group of 3 to 4 people, you cannot please them all. Politicians want to do as little as possible to keep from pissing people off, yet make it look like they have done something in order to get re-elected.
The easiest way for him to get re-elected is to vote with the republicans on some big issues. His "masses" are largely Republican. Confirming a supreme court justice that is nominated by a Republican president would be a huge selling point to get crossover votes in his next election.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:06 am to stomp
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but there's way too much smoke for him to have never done anything in that regard.
I hate the analogy that when there’s smoke there’s fire. It proves nothing and allows evidence or facts to be replaced by accusations.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:08 am to FairhopeTider
I had a brief talk with Walt at the Y one morning back during the summer. We just talked about things here in Tuscaloosa, jobs and such. I also talked to a political strategist about the Democratic Party and its future. My suggestions was that change the narrative and promote more self reliance and independence among individuals. Reach out to people and deliver a message of striving and overcoming. We all aren't born with the same advantages nor the same opportunities, but it is up to us as individuals to take full advantage of the opportunities that are available to us. Life has never been fair, but it us to you to achieve your goals, it is up to you to have ultimate self worth. Those that find life to be more difficult and encounter turmoil more frequently have to find ways of going about life and doing things differently. Do the things that will better current situation and help lay a foundation for the next generation. The ability to lift your self up and be successful lies within you and it has always been so. You are the power that you need, you are the key. Go forth and be great.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:09 am to pvilleguru
Unless the republicans plan to nominate Roy Moore again, the only way Jones can get re-elected is to prove that he won't vote lock-step with the Democrats on every issue.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:19 am to pvilleguru
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Unless the republicans plan to nominate Roy Moore again, the only way Jones can get re-elected is to prove that he won't vote lock-step with the Democrats on every issue.
He hasn't, and it still doesn't matter. People will just cherry pick his votes with D's on certain issues, while ignoring his votes with R's on other issues.
He was always going to lose re-election unless the R's nominate Roy Moore again.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 10:32 am to The Spleen
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People will just cherry pick his votes with D's on certain issues, while ignoring his votes with R's on other issues.
Sad truth
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:43 pm to stomp
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I still think Jones votes in favor of a cleaner appointee. I dont think Kavanaugh did everything he's accused of, but there's way too much smoke for him to have never done anything in that regard.
Bullshait. There was never going to be a ‘cleaner’ appointee. The (D)s would have created a controversy for whomever got nominated. They will never give up the swing seat that way - particularly with the mid terms so close.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:48 pm to The Spleen
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People will just cherry pick his votes with D's on certain issues, while ignoring his votes with R's on other issues.
Some of those votes are far more important than others and to a Supreme Court seat is at the very top of the list. He is going to go against the wishes of an significant majority of Alabama voters on it and thus will have to pay the price.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:52 pm to JustGetItRight
You’re saying they couldn’t find a better candidate than Kavanaugh?
Speaking of bullshite
Speaking of bullshite
This post was edited on 10/4/18 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:54 pm to JustGetItRight
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He is going to go against the wishes of an significant majority of Alabama voters
I really don't get this argument. He ran as a Democrat in a red state, and won. It's ridiculous to expect him to become a Republican just because the majority of this state identifies as conservative. The majority of those conservatives decided a very flawed candidate was who they wanted, and he lost. Jones won a majority of votes, and is mostly voting how that majority wants him to.
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thus will have to pay the price.
He was always going to lose in 2020, and that was my point. His voting record would be cherry picked to show how liberal and evil he really is, regardless of how he votes for the SC nominee.
Posted on 10/4/18 at 12:57 pm to McGregor
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You’re saying they couldn’t find a better than Kavanaugh?
Speaking of bullshite
Nevermind that Gorsuch sailed through without much resistance from the Dems.
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