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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:17 am to bamabenny
Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:17 am to bamabenny
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While I agree we get screwed a lot, the whole damn league of CFB and the SEC doesn’t have some dark cabal that’s just out to get Bama. That’s just silly.
I don't think it's unreasonable to believe that Sankey has made clear his desire to see a traditionally strong program like UTk return to prominence, nor do I think it's unreasonable to believe that there was a handshake agreement between him and Texas to ensure they received the easiest schedule possible for their first couple of years in the SEC. He can certainly frick over teams as collateral damage to his actual goals.
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Posted on 12/22/24 at 10:52 am to Robot Santa
I won’t push back against the Texas thing at all.
The other stuff, ehhhhh..maybe it’s mainly a result of the SEC officiating as a whole just being absolutely trash? There’s been several examples outside of us of teams getting absolutely screwed in some egregious ways.
Then again, maybe it goes deeper than that. The sports betting and amount of money that goes to conferences with playoff births has resulted in some..questionable situations. You’ll never convince me the ACC didn’t phone it in to protect Miami until they could no longer do it.
But why would Sankey and the SEC openly try to screw Bama? We’ve been their cash cow for the better part of 20 years. It wouldn’t make any sense.
The other stuff, ehhhhh..maybe it’s mainly a result of the SEC officiating as a whole just being absolutely trash? There’s been several examples outside of us of teams getting absolutely screwed in some egregious ways.
Then again, maybe it goes deeper than that. The sports betting and amount of money that goes to conferences with playoff births has resulted in some..questionable situations. You’ll never convince me the ACC didn’t phone it in to protect Miami until they could no longer do it.
But why would Sankey and the SEC openly try to screw Bama? We’ve been their cash cow for the better part of 20 years. It wouldn’t make any sense.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:02 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:02 am to bamabenny
We get screwed on bye weeks. This was brought up under Mal Moore and was supposed to be fixed, but we are getting screwed again.
We were screwed pretty much every year under Saban on opponent's penalties. Several yrs we were last in the country or in the bottom five.
A group from MI did a study to prove how bad they were treated by the refs over all of college football and the team that had the fewest holding penalties called in their favor was, you guessed it, BAMA.
We played Clemson in the natty with several 1sr rounders on our DL and they didn't get one holding call. Then they scored on us twice using pick plays, one with less than a minute left to win the natty.
We were screwed pretty much every year under Saban on opponent's penalties. Several yrs we were last in the country or in the bottom five.
A group from MI did a study to prove how bad they were treated by the refs over all of college football and the team that had the fewest holding penalties called in their favor was, you guessed it, BAMA.
We played Clemson in the natty with several 1sr rounders on our DL and they didn't get one holding call. Then they scored on us twice using pick plays, one with less than a minute left to win the natty.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:16 am to Night Vision
None of this is news to me. I’m aware of all of it and agree that we get the short end of the stick almost regularly. It’s an unintended consequence of being as dominant as we were for so long. The threshold for us to commit penalties versus the threshold for us to draw penalties were poles apart. Refs just swallowed their whistles because “well Bama has better players we’ll just let that go”
I don’t think it’s some big Sankey led conspiracy. It’s just something that came with us destroying everyone for 15 years. It’s bullshite but it kinda is what it is.
That said, the refs in our league can still get fricked and the bye week thing is a real concern with all this “equitable scheduling” talk.
I don’t think it’s some big Sankey led conspiracy. It’s just something that came with us destroying everyone for 15 years. It’s bullshite but it kinda is what it is.
That said, the refs in our league can still get fricked and the bye week thing is a real concern with all this “equitable scheduling” talk.
This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:19 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:18 am to bamabenny
The penalty stuff and the bye stuff were taking place early in the Saban years, not because of BAMA fatigue.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:21 am to Night Vision
We went 12-0 in Saban’s second year and won the natty in his third. What exactly do you consider his “early years” where we weren’t clubbing teams like seals?
Just take a peek at this. This isn’t a new “Bama” problem, it’s always been a trend for top tier teams. Ours just seems so bad because no other program has ever been as dominant for as long as we were under Saban.
I hate Reddit but still, it’s valid.
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Just take a peek at this. This isn’t a new “Bama” problem, it’s always been a trend for top tier teams. Ours just seems so bad because no other program has ever been as dominant for as long as we were under Saban.
I hate Reddit but still, it’s valid.
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This post was edited on 12/22/24 at 11:28 am
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:49 am to bamabenny
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None of this is news to me.
Is it? The way you responded to my post it seems that Alabama being screwed by officiating would actually be news to you.
We have seen a significant change in how Alabam is treated with Sankey and that has harmed us... these idiots who don't understand is it harms the SEC.
The SEC's success has always depended on Alabama's greatness. When we do well the conference soars. When we don't the conference falls flat. The same with B1G and Michigan/OSU.
The difference is the B1G don't sabotage their sacred cows while the SEC does everything it can to kill off theirs.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 11:53 am to Night Vision
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We played Clemson in the natty with several 1sr rounders on our DL
Not just first rounders, that was the best dline in CFB history.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 12:07 pm to YStar
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The difference is the B1G don't sabotage their sacred cows while the SEC does everything it can to kill off theirs.
And what would be the goal for the SEC purposely doing this? Logically that makes exactly zero sense.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 1:50 pm to YStar
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When rocky top were DPIing OSU #4 they called DPI every time.
I mean that's just objectively untrue. There was a terrible pass interference they didn't call on that interception, as I said above. I don't think I made your point, because you're saying Tennessee got favorable calls against Bama but not against OSU. My take is Tennessee got favorable calls in both games.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:58 pm to bamabenny
Wonder if it's more along the lines that B1G ref crews don't believe they need to be a part of the game while sec crews think they need to nail every jaywalker out there. But somehow along the way frick up even the easiest of calls
Posted on 12/22/24 at 2:59 pm to CrimsonCrusade
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mean that's just objectively untrue. There was a terrible pass interference they didn't call on that interception, as I said above.
You're arguing exception and not the rule.
My point is very clear. We have had a significant foul discrepancy in Neyland and have suffered bias officiating outside of that with other teams.
Nothing you said displaced this. We had significant calls in our last two games in Neyland which kept the game close early and won them the game late.
Nothing you have said displaced this.
I'm not gonna argue with you just for the sake of it.
Posted on 12/22/24 at 3:00 pm to bamabenny
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And what would be the goal for the SEC purposely doing this? Logically that makes exactly zero sense.
Go read the Rant, see the "feelings" shared regarding Alabama then ask yourself why you asked such a bad question
Posted on 12/23/24 at 3:25 pm to YStar
Posted on 12/23/24 at 4:54 pm to Sl0thstronautEsq
That’s not something done by accident.
Posted on 12/23/24 at 8:04 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:21 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
He doesn’t have any eligibility left, does he?
He was in the same recruiting class as Bryce.
He was in the same recruiting class as Bryce.
Posted on 12/24/24 at 7:41 am to TideSaint
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He doesn’t have any eligibility left, does he?
One more year even though he's a RS Senior. I imagine it's the COVID year?
Posted on 12/24/24 at 11:57 am to Sl0thstronautEsq
He is more than likely making more money in college than he would in the NFL.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 6:05 pm to My2Bits
So SMU's "best win" on their schedule just lost to Toledo to end the season. 
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