re: Nick Saban provides update on Alabama's ongoing QB battle

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observer's subjective opinion

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Isn't the stuff in your reply the exact same thing, i.e. an observer's subjective opinion?

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posting the contents of the email.

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Not an option.

the only "weakness" is that it doesn't support what folks want to believe.

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Some of you need to watch baseball or work or play with your kids between now and September.

This is not the Zapruder film. Just chill out.

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..fricking drama queens.

I gotcha. Thanks. For the record, I do take “insider” info with a grain of salt. I know some info is actually seen and some may be 2nd or 3rd hand info from someone who is there. But for most posters including myself, this is all we have to go on. lol . Drew DeArmond posts some stuff like it is not close but who knows. I do appreciate info and realize that it may or may not be fact. Just ready for the damn season! thanks again to all and Roll Tide

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prevatt33

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One hand touch on the QB for a sack is BULLSHITE! They literally could swing a hand and catch the jersey with a fingernail and the whistle was blown. Former BAMA QB and another #13 David Smith was the white hat during the scrimmage.
They were working on 1st and 10 situations from inside the -5. Object was to get a first down or at least enough yards to give DeLong his needed 15 yards.
DeLong had a shank about this time as well. CNS was standing right next to him on the end line when he caught the snap.

Thanks for the added context. Many fans see stats and invent the context. Whether they were legit sacks or not, we'll never know. The issue to know is whether the QB made good or bad decisions on the play, regardless of the ticky-tack nature of the actual sack. That's tough to know as an observer, unless you can hear the coaches after the play.

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UAgrad93

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Let me throw another one at you:

This email I received indicated that from his observation, the offense operates more smoothly with Hurts in the game. He even went so far as to say Hurts was like a coach on the field, putting people in the right places, audibling, moving everyone around, orchestrating everything, etc., and that Tua is not at the same level as Hurts yet at the total running of the offense.

Is this something you saw also?

He also seemed to indicate that the post-scrimmage chatter among those viewing the 2nd scrimmage was as positive about Hurts as it was about Tua after scrimmage number 1. Did you notice this?

I am asking this because it ties in to what Surge posted from the BOL insider:

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A BOL "insider" (connections) -- "Tua is qb1 and there legit is no debate. I’ve talked with several ppl and idc what any rec member is saying. The staff and players have long known Tua is qb1, and they’re only trying to find a role or how big of a role Jalen will have."

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Dude specifically said " I don't care what any REC member is saying." In order to say this, there must be some REC insiders who are saying a different opinion, which is very interesting.

I used the term "REC insider" to denote a member of the REC who's connected enough to be present at scrimmages/practices.

I agree that if you are not present or have direct inside info from players/coaches, then you just a dude like me...but with more money, apparently.

I'm not really sure what he was looking at that led him to reach that conclusion. Both of them looked to be in command of protections, formations, etc. Now, I was talking with my 17 year old son as we watched. He is a LB and we talked A LOT about coverages more so than listening to hear if both were giving directions, etc.

As for post scrimmage chatter, I can only say that the guys I talked with that Jalen did look better in #2 scrimmage than in #1. I only attended the 2nd one, so I only had heresay to go off of. We were all still pretty much in agreement that, while Jalen did hit some first read deep throws, if #1 was covered, he bailed or drifted right and looked to run, not staying with the route progression. We said that "if Saban was going off JUST the 2nd scrimmage, then his decision would be a tough one to make." Tua still made some throws that made you simply say, "DAMN!" He threw one sideline route to Jeudy at around 15-20 yards from left hash to the right sideline on a damn rope! In red zone, he threw a low dart to a diving Derek Kief that only he had a chance to catch.

If we really looked at how Jalen got to 26-2, having a freaking BEAST for a defense, all of those NOTS in '16, performances against upper echelon defenses, then look at what Tua provided in his playing time during the season and in the Natty. Tua gives the offense more freedom to dictate run or pass. When those upper tier defenses loaded the box and forced Jalen to hit outside throws or deep throws, he struggled.
People will say that he would have won the Natty as a freshman IF the defense hadn't given up the final TD. I always point out that the defense played 99 damn snaps due mainly to 2-17 on third downs. Also, Jalen's final drive in that Natty never happens if not for the double pass completion by A Stewart to convert what, another 3rd down or was it 4th down.
I coached HS ball for 13 years, so I try and look at it from a coaching mindset and not the crazed fan. We are all passionate though about the Crimson and White!! I hope my old eyes and what I have tried to relay to y'all helps.

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People will say that he would have won the Natty as a freshman IF the defense hadn't given up the final TD.

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It irks me whenever I see people saying that. The offense sucked arse all night. They were living off big plays and couldn’t put together one long drive. It wasn’t all Hurts fault but he did nothing impressive outside of his TD run.

Meanwhile the defense held one of the top offenses in the nation to 7 points through 2.5 quarters. They made Clemson punt 11 times which is the most they’ve had to in a single game in over 2 years. They also forced and recovered 2 fumbles inside Clemson territory only for the offense to come away with negative yards and 3 points.

I know it’s mostly non-Bama fans that only remember the last 1.5 quarters of the game that say this, but there are also some Bama fans including here on this board that think the same thing.