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Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:55 am to Joka2kold
Milroe is far from a polished product but I do think that when given a clean pocket he's shown he can do some of the things you say he can't. The common denominator on the games you're talking about is that an opposing DL absolutely whipped our OL. Texas, Michigan, last night.
He needs to get better, but we don't have Bryce Young or Tua on this roster. So it is what it is.
He needs to get better, but we don't have Bryce Young or Tua on this roster. So it is what it is.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:57 am to BigFolks6347
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You have no football iq if you think Milroe played bad last night. Our offensive coordinator literally was calling four verticals against an all out blitz every passing down
Posts like this are just silly. A high functioning QB can recognize a blitz pre snap and make adjustments. BY was really great at this. Before him Mac excelled at this too. It is part of playing the position.
The play calling was perplexing at times. There were plays that appeared to have 4 verts, but it is crazy to think that was called every time. There were some intermediate routes open on at least three of the deep shots we took. In those cases, JM is like a batter that swings for the fences no matter what pitch is coming. You don’t have to be calling for Simpson to point out Milroe didn’t play well. He still has some of the same deficiencies. The OL was bad too, so that didn’t help.
A concerning thing to me was his backpedaling to take really huge losses on sacks. Obviously, the coaches got in his ear about it because he actually threw the ball away a couple of times. It was a small step forward.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:59 am to Crimson K
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Posts like this are just silly. A high functioning QB can recognize a blitz pre snap and make adjustments. BY was really great at this. Before him Mac excelled at this too. It is part of playing the position.
He's got a coach in his helmet. If this is the problem right now, then it's a coaching problem. We get to the line quickly, so it's not like the thing is already shut off.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 8:59 am to Joka2kold
It's hilarious to me that everyone says the only reason DeBoer won't change the QB due to the locker room.
Yet as a brand new staff he had every chance in the world to change QBs and nobody would have said anything.
But just like the previous staff, the best QB we have is on the roster and it's not even that close apparently. As they don't even give Ty meaningful snaps whatsoever. Every QB battle under Saban he gave other QBs snaps in game to win it.
At this point just like last year it looks like the offensive staff needs to look at their game plan. I have no idea why he didn't utilize the outside run game until later in the game.
Either way if the staff thought ty could be a meaningful contributor he would have played last night
Yet as a brand new staff he had every chance in the world to change QBs and nobody would have said anything.
But just like the previous staff, the best QB we have is on the roster and it's not even that close apparently. As they don't even give Ty meaningful snaps whatsoever. Every QB battle under Saban he gave other QBs snaps in game to win it.
At this point just like last year it looks like the offensive staff needs to look at their game plan. I have no idea why he didn't utilize the outside run game until later in the game.
Either way if the staff thought ty could be a meaningful contributor he would have played last night
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:01 am to imjustafatkid
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A running QB isn't a thing against elite teams. You have to have a pocket passer against elite teams.
There's truth to this but to put a finer point on it, you need a guy who can go through reads, throw the ball accurately and in today's game, extend plays with his feet.
Ty Simpson can do all this, and somebody somewhere knows why he really hung around this year.
Alabama doesn't need a quarterback who can run like Derrick Henry and not much else. Even Milroe's "deep ball" that we all glommed onto isn't reliable.
Ty Simpson isn't Alabama's quarterback for reason and it's not because he isn't ready or that Jalen Milroe is better. It won't be much longer before we find out what the reason really is.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:01 am to Diego Ricardo
No the only thing Milroe has over Simpson is...
Running Ability & the locker room!
Jalen Hurts had 24-2 record as well and all we kept hearing was how good Tua was in practice.
Ty Simpson has been better than Milroe all spring and summer in this offense. This is FACTS!
Running Ability & the locker room!
Jalen Hurts had 24-2 record as well and all we kept hearing was how good Tua was in practice.
Ty Simpson has been better than Milroe all spring and summer in this offense. This is FACTS!
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 9:12 am
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:02 am to UltimaParadox
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It's hilarious to me that everyone says the only reason DeBoer won't change the QB due to the locker room.
It's delusion from people who want Ty Simpson to be something he isn't. Period, end of story. The idea that two straight coaching staffs (one in which we had no incumbent starter, one in which has no loyalty to the previous starter) didn't find Simpson to be a realistic option speaks volumes.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:03 am to Joka2kold
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Ty Simpson has been better than Milroe all spring and summer in this offense. This is FACTS!
You can't call something that is purely speculation and without any credible support a fact.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:03 am to Joka2kold
Not what I saw. I rewatched the highlights this morning. I saw a Milroe who looked different to me. He has demonstrated several times the ability to take off, while keeping his eyes downfield... with (quick release) passes to play makers as a result.
The ugliness I witnessed again - turnovers and penalties... and an incredible performance by Brown for UCF. Reminded me why his coach embraced him after the failed 4 down turnover at the end.
The ugliness I witnessed again - turnovers and penalties... and an incredible performance by Brown for UCF. Reminded me why his coach embraced him after the failed 4 down turnover at the end.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:04 am to Pandy Fackler
Ty isn't the QB because he hasn't shown he is as good as Milroe. Last year during scrimmages he was a turnover machine. I did not see the fall scrimmage this year, but once again the WKU when pressure got in his face he threw a lame duck and got intercepted.
And one thing we know with this team, is you have to be able to handle pressure. Since the o line isn't great
And one thing we know with this team, is you have to be able to handle pressure. Since the o line isn't great
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 9:06 am
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:05 am to mistaken4193
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The biggest thing that drives me crazy about Milroe is he wastes plays trying to take a shot on a Low percentage throw
Live by the big play, die by the big play.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:05 am to Joka2kold
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Jalen Hurts had 24-2 record as well and all we kept was how good Tua was in practice.
Tua played in a bunch of meaningful minutes in games. Neither coaching staff is giving Ty any
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:07 am to UltimaParadox
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Tua played in a bunch of meaningful minutes in games. Neither coaching staff is giving Ty any
None of these guys acting like Ty is the savior we need want to acknowledge that he came out of camp last year behind Tyler Buchner. That sounds like the next Tua to you?
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:08 am to Bham Bammer
Even when kept clean it still doesn't change the fact that he's inaccurate as heck in his intermediate passing!
You saw it last night.
We had guys wide open versus Texas and Michigan...he can't read defenses or process what he's seeing quickly.
You saw it last night.
We had guys wide open versus Texas and Michigan...he can't read defenses or process what he's seeing quickly.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:09 am to Joka2kold
Milroe was fine. He took one bad sack and had the fumble at the goal line but that’s about it. The issue was the O line sucking.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:09 am to UltimaParadox
And Tua was absolutely lights out when he'd come into games. Ty has never looked really good in a game. Ty truthers make absolutely no sense to me for that reason. There is zero evidence we'd be better off with him. Maybe we would be, but it's far from a foregone conclusion and if he isn't then you have totally fricked up the QB situation.
This post was edited on 9/8/24 at 9:10 am
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:09 am to bamatide07
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DeBoer should switch to Ty but he would risk losing the locker room. He’s being held hostage in other words. Next year when Ty is the starter is when the offense will look more like what we’ve been accustomed to under DeBoer.
I believe this and have for a while.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:10 am to Joka2kold
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Even when kept clean it still doesn't change the fact that he's inaccurate as heck in his intermediate passing!
You saw it last night.
Honestly I saw one intermediate throw to a TE sail and the guy had a defender underneath him when you looked back to the end zone angle. So, no, I didn't see it last night.
Posted on 9/8/24 at 9:13 am to Bham Bammer
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Milroe is far from a polished product but I do think that when given a clean pocket he's shown he can do some of the things you say he can't. The common denominator on the games you're talking about is that an opposing DL absolutely whipped our OL. Texas, Michigan, last night.
He needs to get better, but we don't have Bryce Young or Tua on this roster. So it is what it is.
He is polished.
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