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re: Kevin Steele is fine, Tommy Rees is not
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:22 pm to Funky Tide 8
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:22 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Brother, our QBs were wildly inaccurate on short throws all day yesterday.
It was remarkable how inaccurate Buchner threw screens. I mean even the ones they caught were far from the body and low. Took a tremendous effort from those WRs.
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:25 pm to YStar
I have yet to see what ANYBODY, much less our coaches, saw from Buchner to think he was an option at QB
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:27 pm to YStar
I’d like to see what Mullen would do with Milroe. I wouldn’t want all of the other stuff with Mullen though.
Maybe Kiffen will do something crazy and get fired and come back to rehab again.
Maybe Kiffen will do something crazy and get fired and come back to rehab again.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:33 pm to Syd
Dang bring Dan Mullen here
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:17 pm to Freight Joker
I’d start with quick hitches, flat hots, smash, jailbreaks, bubbles, HB screen, anything that doesn’t require the line to hold a block longer than half a second. We have plenty of that in the playbook. We can’t continue trying to do double moves. Our QB doesn’t have time to let those type plays develop. Throw the ball enough to make them respect it then let Roydell and Jase be thunder and lightning. You can sneak your TE out more often if you do enough of that.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 5:34 pm to Syd
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Maybe Kiffen will do something crazy and get fired and come back to rehab again.
That lawsuit ain't going to do anything, baw
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:18 pm to biggsc
Joe Brady would be one.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:07 am to biggsc
That's not exactly true with Blake Sims. Blake was an All State QB in Georgia. Was he polished? No, but the Sims had a great HS career purely as a QB.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:13 am to Amarillo Tide
I think Culture is partly to blame. When I look around college football with the exception of Kirby Smart it seems most head coaches are coming from he offensive side. So the best and brightest minds offensively don't want to come here and run saban's offense they want to run their own. So we end up hiring someone who will take the job rather than someone who is the best. In the past the problem wasn't so pronounced, but the game keeps changing and Saban hasn't recognized the problem, but after not even making a bowl this year, he's going to change or retire. and they will definitely not make a bowl. Many of you don't remember the last time Alabama was not great. when that happens everybody is out for revenge. They will hold nothing back.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 8:20 am to slammer66
As much as I love Coach Saban, his 24K hard *** work environment is a big reason a lot of good coaches don't want to come here.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:40 am to SPennington
I think the concepts Saban had in mind were chosen with the assumption that the OL was going to be the strength of the offense.
That is 100% not the case so far so while it’s fair to question if we need to pivot with scheme given what we have to work with at OL and QB, I’m not ready to throw an OC under the bus three games in or even compare him to our previous OCs
I’m not saying Rees is great or even good. I’m just saying to evaluate something you have to isolate the variables around it and when I look at things objectively we have one of the worst QB groups in P5 so far statistically, a senior RB who wouldn’t start for any other Saban team and who refuses to pass protect paired with an OL that is non-functional in both phases YTD.
I don’t care if we had Sark and Kiffin in the booth, the combination of bad QB and OL would make any play caller look bad.
That is 100% not the case so far so while it’s fair to question if we need to pivot with scheme given what we have to work with at OL and QB, I’m not ready to throw an OC under the bus three games in or even compare him to our previous OCs
I’m not saying Rees is great or even good. I’m just saying to evaluate something you have to isolate the variables around it and when I look at things objectively we have one of the worst QB groups in P5 so far statistically, a senior RB who wouldn’t start for any other Saban team and who refuses to pass protect paired with an OL that is non-functional in both phases YTD.
I don’t care if we had Sark and Kiffin in the booth, the combination of bad QB and OL would make any play caller look bad.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:46 am to SPennington
I don't buy the whole "it's the alabama offense" rhetoric
It may be the Alabama nomenclature, but the offense has changed with every coordinator.
Kiffin was stretch the defense horizontally over and over until you could pick your shot down field.
Locksley was heavy, heavy RPO
Sark was heavy motion to create individual mismatches.
BoB was BoB. He pretty much just stuck to the book and didn't really build plays off each other.
This offense looks pretty similar to what we ran under Shula tbh. It is a throwback to what was easy to defend, thus it adapted. The thought process was defenses have adapted to modern offense so perhaps old school offense now has an advantage, the problem there is we have a soft offensive line that can't execute it.
Every offense under Saban has been different though, he just makes them use the Alabama terminology for their playbook
It may be the Alabama nomenclature, but the offense has changed with every coordinator.
Kiffin was stretch the defense horizontally over and over until you could pick your shot down field.
Locksley was heavy, heavy RPO
Sark was heavy motion to create individual mismatches.
BoB was BoB. He pretty much just stuck to the book and didn't really build plays off each other.
This offense looks pretty similar to what we ran under Shula tbh. It is a throwback to what was easy to defend, thus it adapted. The thought process was defenses have adapted to modern offense so perhaps old school offense now has an advantage, the problem there is we have a soft offensive line that can't execute it.
Every offense under Saban has been different though, he just makes them use the Alabama terminology for their playbook
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:53 am to SPennington
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start with quick hitches, flat hots, smash, jailbreaks, bubbles, HB screen, anything that doesn’t require the line to hold a block longer than half a second. We have plenty of that in the playbook. We can’t continue trying to do double moves. Our QB doesn’t have time to let those type plays develop. Throw the ball enough to make them respect it then let Roydell and Jase be thunder and lightning. You can sneak your TE out more often if you do enough of that.
If the other team knows you can't hold a block long enough to hurt them deep, then they can crowd the line of scrimmage. Then none of the things you say to try will work.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 9:54 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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I don't buy the whole "it's the alabama offense" rhetoric
Yes, the commentators keep regurgitating that nonsense, but I agree with you. It has always been true that new OC's have to learn Bama's terminology. But the offense has changed every year based on OC's and the players' strengths.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:24 am to Teague
I think Rees has an offense he wants to run but it does not work with Milroe at QB. He got a chance to show what he wants to do but the other QBs were not ready for it either.
It will be interesting moving forward. Either make adjustments to have Milroe or bite the bullet and hope Simpson can be the player.
It will be interesting moving forward. Either make adjustments to have Milroe or bite the bullet and hope Simpson can be the player.
Posted on 9/18/23 at 10:25 am to Tupelo
It would 100% work. You work the field side to side with quick game, run the ball, then take your shot down field. What you said is exactly what you want. If they start crowding the line, that’s when you take your shot down field. Rely on your speed at WR to get a four yard separation gap and hit a deep seam route in man. Quick game will keep linebackers honest and the blitz won’t be as heavy, which helps the line in pass block. That opens the run, which eventually opens the deep ball.
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