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re: Is this our best defensive class ever?
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:30 am to bamameister
Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:30 am to bamameister
Man Upshaw put offensive lineman and tight ends on there arse and he completely ruined offensive plays. You need those guys in any era.
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Posted on 2/1/20 at 8:43 am to Sebastian
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Man Upshaw put offensive lineman and tight ends on there arse and he completely ruined offensive plays. You need those guys in any era.
I'm just saying that he played against a lot of teams that wanted to play football in a phone booth. Like LSU in the natty. I can visualize Shane Lee thriving in close quarters as well. Chasing in space is hard and exhausting.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 9:03 am to TizzyT4theUofA
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Will Anderson
Will Is a 5-star, he isn’t undervalued lol
Posted on 2/1/20 at 10:21 am to Sebastian
Not if they’re really slow though. Upshaw ran a 4.81 forty and his slowness showed in the NFL. Probably what Shane Lee runs. He was a hard hitting ferocious player though. We need more of that.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 11:52 am to 1BamaRTR
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Probably what Shane Lee runs
Nope. I would bet the farm on a 5.0 forty for Lee. He is the slowest inside backer I have seen at Bama. Freddie Roach ran a 4.9 and he was faster than Shane Lee. I think that Lee could drop around 15 pounds and gain an extra step or two if he works hard but he will never have sideline speed.
Posted on 2/1/20 at 12:00 pm to Commander Data
quote:You forget about Trey Depriest?
I would bet the farm on a 5.0 forty for Lee. He is the slowest inside backer I have seen at Bama
Posted on 2/2/20 at 2:15 am to Commander Data
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Nope. I would bet the farm on a 5.0 forty for Lee. He is the slowest inside backer I have seen at Bama. Freddie Roach ran a 4.9 and he was faster than Shane Lee. I think that Lee could drop around 15 pounds and gain an extra step or two if he works hard but he will never have sideline speed.
Idk what his 40 time is, but i agree.
People can go on about Trey DePriest but I don’t remember him sticking out like a sore thumb for being so slow and ineffective.
I think Shane Lee would have a hard time playing for a lot of D2 schools. I don’t get it
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:03 am to uofarolltide
True. Depriest was slow but he was faster than Lee is and was an overall decent linebacker.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 6:00 am to saban n bear
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Will Is a 5-star, he isn’t undervalued lol
Posted on 2/2/20 at 2:24 pm to Commander Data
quote:at the opening Lee measured the same 40 time as Christian Harris, 4.7, at the same size he is now. I think his entire problem is not his speed or physical attributes, it's that he was tasked, as a true freshman, with running all the calls and checks for the lbs, so he was having to think about what he's supposed to do, what the line is doing, what Harris was supposed to do, etc. That's alot of thinking to have to do with no college experience to rely on, and having to think makes you play slow, that's just a fact.
Nope. I would bet the farm on a 5.0 forty for Lee. He is the slowest inside backer I have seen at Bama. Freddie Roach ran a 4.9 and he was faster than Shane Lee. I think that Lee could drop around 15 pounds and gain an extra step or two if he works hard but he will never have sideline speed.
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 2/2/20 at 3:51 pm to narddogg81
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I think his entire problem is not his speed or physical attributes
I suppose you could also include lack of intangibles and instincts
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That's alot of thinking to have to do with no college experience to rely on, and having to think makes you play slow
Having to think makes you hesitant - not slow. Shane Lee was hesitant, timid, and excruciatingly slow. He was soft at the point. He couldn’t shed, nor take on blockers. He was a disaster. Call it what it was.
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:03 pm to narddogg81
I know he ran a 4.73 or something like that but he sure didn't look it on the field. I will give it to you that you may absolutely be right and I hope you are. If it's just that the speed of the game and the calls etc slowed him down then there is hope that he can still evolve into a good Mike backer. He did look like he was running in molasses at times though.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 4:20 pm to Commander Data
Honestly I don’t even think Shane Lee is worth talking about. I think his playing days are over
We’ve got a 5th year senior and Dylan Moses coming back, Christian Harris, as well as a host of more talented freshmen. If he’s on the field next year I’d be absolutely shocked
We’ve got a 5th year senior and Dylan Moses coming back, Christian Harris, as well as a host of more talented freshmen. If he’s on the field next year I’d be absolutely shocked
Posted on 2/2/20 at 5:06 pm to Commander Data
Hell no, DePriest was just as slow and bad as Lee 
I just happened to see a clip with him in it earlier today and for a split second I'm like 'who is this fatass out there at LBer?' And I'm not saying this to bash him or anything, like, he's objectively the widest dude I've seen at LBer. Kinda reminds me of that kicker at Wisconsin.
I just happened to see a clip with him in it earlier today and for a split second I'm like 'who is this fatass out there at LBer?' And I'm not saying this to bash him or anything, like, he's objectively the widest dude I've seen at LBer. Kinda reminds me of that kicker at Wisconsin.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 5:22 pm to narddogg81
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at the opening Lee measured the same 40 time as Christian Harris, 4.7, at the same size he is now. I think his entire problem is not his speed or physical attributes, it's that he was tasked, as a true freshman, with running all the calls and checks for the lbs, so he was having to think about what he's supposed to do, what the line is doing, what Harris was supposed to do, etc. That's alot of thinking to have to do with no college experience to rely on, and having to think makes you play slow, that's just a fact.
Truth. Being able to anaylze things quickly and do everything that's needed is something that takes time. As Saban would say, you don't practice until you get it right, you practice until you can't get it wrong. Experience and time making the reads is really the only thing that will make it happen faster.
I can't remember the guys name, someone else probably can, but there was a guy who went undrafted and landed on the Jets for a short time. He didn't make it in the NFL in the end, but for a short time when he got to the Jets he was pretty high up in the depth chart. The reason for it was because while he wasn't as fast as the guy they drafted for the position, he was just able to anaylze the plays so much quicker that he was able to make the plays the faster guy couldn't. It was a good testimony to the quality of players Alabama was producing.
Being able to react fast is the same as having more speed. I think he'll get better as time goes on and the reads are instinct rather than thought.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 5:23 pm to uofarolltide
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Honestly I don’t even think Shane Lee is worth talking about. I think his playing days are over
Pretty sure he played more snaps than any other player on defense this past year.
At the very least he's going to provide good depth.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 6:37 pm to 3down10
Lee was a true freshman and he had a damn poor coach teaching him how to play the position. Some of you dumb asses are relentless in putting the kid down. Most of you probably never played a snap of football at any level. Could he have been better, probably. How would you feel if he was your kid and read all the shite on here about him?
Posted on 2/2/20 at 6:45 pm to narddogg81
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the opening Lee measured the same 40 time as Christian Harris, 4.7, at the same size he is now. I think his entire problem is not his speed or physical attributes
Yeah, but if it's "alligator speed" as Saban calls it, that 40 time is deceiving. Starting from a 3-point stance and exploding in one direction is very different from needing to change direction and chase down a RB in the flats.
I think Lee has more good football to play for us, but he does need to change some "physical attributes", most notably improving his flexibility as well as dropping his hips and improving his forward lean, leg drive, and knee height, and stride length - and most of this will improve with flexibility. Lee looks like he's running with legs chains on. Gotta fix that.
But I agree on the 'thinking' point affecting speed. Spot on.
Posted on 2/2/20 at 7:29 pm to Dick Tracy
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How would you feel if he was your kid and read all the shite on here about him?
If he was my kid, id make sure he got a good degree because id know hed have no future in the nfl. It’s just a game. It’s not attacking him personally to say he’s slow and lacks aggression on the field. Maybe he’d make a great father or businessman. He just doesn’t make a good MLB
This post was edited on 2/2/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 2/2/20 at 11:48 pm to Dick Tracy
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Lee was a true freshman and he had a damn poor coach teaching him how to play the position. Some of you dumb asses are relentless in putting the kid down. Most of you probably never played a snap of football at any level. Could he have been better, probably. How would you feel if he was your kid and read all the shite on here about him?
Huh? Did you mean to reply to me?
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