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Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:17 am to JustGetItRight
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Yeah, I look at everything on paper and I see a Michigan State style game.
Then I remember this year's Iron Bowl.........
Yep - same stance has to be taken here as was taken with Georgia. This team is inconsistent, so you can't just take one game and define them with it and expect to see that.
For Georgia those games were Auburn and LSU.
For Cincinnati that game is Georgia.
Honestly, I think we found some stuff, both mentally and schematically. I think we found our identity. I would shocked if we don't come out rip roaring like we always do in the 1st playoff game (outside of the Lane disaster Washington game).
However, this team has the ability to durp durp around with the best of them, as we all know.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
Cincinnati's mediocre offensive line is why they haven't consistently dominated opponents this year. They're going to have nightmares about Will Anderson for weeks after this game.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:48 am to Bench McElroy
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Cincinnati's mediocre offensive line is why they haven't consistently dominated opponents this year. They're going to have nightmares about Will Anderson for weeks after this game.
- don't move the LoS (mostly against lesser, non-NFL athlete DLs)
- are average at best in terms of explosiveness
- are terrible when forced into passing obvious situations
Just sounds like a really, really good matchup for us.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:59 am to Bamadiver
This might be a game where we run the ball more.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
Not sure if you want to just make a separate post, but what do the numbers look like for Michigan-UGA? My gut tells me UGA by 2+ scores, but if Michigan can find a way to force UGA to beat them vertically it could be an interesting game.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:14 am to Robot Santa
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Not sure if you want to just make a separate post, but what do the numbers look like for Michigan-UGA? My gut tells me UGA by 2+ scores, but if Michigan can find a way to force UGA to beat them vertically it could be an interesting game.
I'm gonna take a look at those probably next week. I think you are right, though. Michigan will have to throw first to beat Georgia. I think they are a better version of Arkansas, though, and they most of their throwing relies on the running game working. I'm not sure how well that's gonna work.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:14 am to Panthers4life
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This might be a game where we run the ball more.
Definitely feels like it could be more of an Ole Miss type plan. Probably not to that extreme, but more leaning that way.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:20 am to Robot Santa
Again going by gut and the few games I've watched I don't see how Michigan stays on the field against UGA.
Everything they do revolves around a successful running game. They have 548 rushes for 2,910 yards and 359 pass attempts for 2,965 yards. That's a 1:1.5 run to pass ratio and 8.6 ypa.
Compare that to Alabama, which had 473 rushes for 1,919 yards and 486 pass attempts for 4,523 yards. Virtually a 1:1 ratio and 9.3 ypa.
Michigan's offense is the type Kirby's defenses have always eaten for lunch. They're Auburn/Arkansas/Kentucky with a little easier schedule. Unless they fold mentally after the SECCG, Georgia will squeeze the life out of them.
ETA - and of course George beat me to making the Arky comparison.
Everything they do revolves around a successful running game. They have 548 rushes for 2,910 yards and 359 pass attempts for 2,965 yards. That's a 1:1.5 run to pass ratio and 8.6 ypa.
Compare that to Alabama, which had 473 rushes for 1,919 yards and 486 pass attempts for 4,523 yards. Virtually a 1:1 ratio and 9.3 ypa.
Michigan's offense is the type Kirby's defenses have always eaten for lunch. They're Auburn/Arkansas/Kentucky with a little easier schedule. Unless they fold mentally after the SECCG, Georgia will squeeze the life out of them.
ETA - and of course George beat me to making the Arky comparison.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:22 am to JustGetItRight
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Everything they do revolves around a successful running game. They have 548 rushes for 2,910 yards and 359 pass attempts for 2,965 yards. That's a 1:5 run to pass ratio and 8.6 ypa.
That's my biggest concern for Michigan. I don't think they can pass first. They don't have great WRs and their QB is the definition of a game manager. Every time they have a good offensive game it starts with running the football (which they are very good at).
Now, I could absolutely see them clamping down on Georgia's offense. Their defense is really salty and their DC is very smart and will have a month to scheme against a team that has a difficult time taking the top off. And I could see Kirby panicking and throwing Daniels out.
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ETA - and of course George beat me to making the Arky comparison.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:21 am to SummerOfGeorge
I expect the same media narrative this month as the lead up to the 2012 championship game against Notre Dame. As the weeks went by, they kept talking themselves into believing Notre Dame could not only be competitive, but win the game. Hopefully we get the same outcome this time.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Now, I could absolutely see them clamping down on Georgia's offense. Their defense is really salty and their DC is very smart and will have a month to scheme against a team that has a difficult time taking the top off. And I could see Kirby panicking and throwing Daniels out.
Yeah, I fully expect a low scoring game. 20 points probably wins it.
As far as JT Daniels goes, I'm not so sure. The QB situation at UGA just feels so much like some of our roster complaints where the fans and/or talking heads are clamoring for the other guy based on nothing more than dissatisfaction with the current starter and/or player hype.
In Daniels' only almost full season as a starter at USC he had a 59% completion ratio, threw 10 picks (against 14 TDs), and missed a game due to injury. In 5 mop-up games at UGA this year, he's thrown 3 picks (against 7 TDs) with a 72% completion ratio and he's rushed for a -18 yards on 4 carries.
In 2021 Bennett's completing 65% of his passes, has 24 TDs vs 7 INTs, and he's rushed for 251 yds on 45 carries (a HEALTHY 5.6 ypc). Interestingly, Bennet gets 10.1 ypa for his passing. That's better than Bryce (9.4 ypa).
Nothing about the numbers scream that Daniels is going to make a major difference in offensive performance. The potential gain you get from a stronger arm is likely to be offset by more interceptions and sacks taken.
Kirby sees them at practice every day. I'm sure he knows this better than anyone. The only way I see him making a panic change is if Bennett has a total come-apart. That didn't happen Saturday even after the pick-6 so I don't see it happening moving forward.
The 'problem' is UGA's offense is what it is - 2012 Alabama. That's a good offense and it wins TONS of games but it just isn't built to do the things modern offenses have embraced. Kirby hasn't (and hopefully never will) had the epiphany Nick had when he brought in Kiffin.
Honestly, I think I'd rather face Daniels. Bennett doesn't get enough credit for his mobility. But for his wheels, Saturday would have been a far worse beatdown.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:18 pm to JustGetItRight
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As far as JT Daniels goes, I'm not so sure. The QB situation at UGA just feels so much like some of our roster complaints where the fans and/or talking heads are clamoring for the other guy based on nothing more than dissatisfaction with the current starter and/or player hype.
I'm right there with you - the Daniels stuff is kind of insane. He and Georgia's offense had some explosive stuff late in the season last year against - now this will shock you I'm sure - bad teams, specifically bad defenses. Then, against Cincinnati, he hit some big throws but he also made some horrible INT throws and showed absolutely very little mobility.
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Honestly, I think I'd rather face Daniels. Bennett doesn't get enough credit for his mobility. But for his wheels, Saturday would have been a far worse beatdown.
If Georgia didn't have Bennett's ability to get out of the pocket and buy time and/or run, they were in way worse shape on Saturday.
I'm sure I didn't see them all, but I do not remember seeing a bunch of open dudes running around that Bennett just missed (like I did in 2020 at Bryant Denny, for instance). He made some bad mistakes on the 2 picks and the near pick by Battle, but I'm not exactly sure why people think Daniels isn't going to make the same mistakes.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:37 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm not exactly sure why people think Daniels isn't going to make the same mistakes.
Well, one reason would be he can't make them when he's lying on his arse.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:44 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I haven’t watched Cincinnati play more than a few plays this year,so know nothing about them. But a lot of the talking heads on TV say their secondary is their strength. According To McElroy & others they have NFL corners and their Safeties are big and strong, who will give us a lot of trouble.
John Madden texted or tweeted after the Mich-OSU game that he had never seen better OL than what he saw from Michigan. That is some high praise. TIFWIW.
John Madden texted or tweeted after the Mich-OSU game that he had never seen better OL than what he saw from Michigan. That is some high praise. TIFWIW.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 2:11 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I read some rumors on the junkyard that Daniel's has told Kirby he is transferring after the season. They also said Kirby is not happy with Daniel's and thinks he doesn't have the toughness needed to play through some injuries. Those 2 reasons are why Kirby wasn't willing to play him against us. He definitely seems to be on the softer side because he was cleared to play last season and didn't seem to want to give it a try. I don't think he is any better than Bennett honestly
Posted on 12/6/21 at 4:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Honestly, I think we found some stuff, both mentally and schematically. I think we found our identity.
As someone who loves the metrics myself, it's hard to describe an intangible that well, but I believe a corner has been turned on our defense.
There is just something that suddenly clicks in the late-season with our better (past) defenses, and you can actually see it with your eyes, but not really quantify it.
It's when they're aggressive, flying around, and just laying the wood like Christian Harris did filling that gap on Georgia's first drive. It's something that Dre Kirkpatrick, Mark Barron, and Reuben Foster used to bring, as in, if you come in here, you're going to regret it.
You can see the body language of the other team start to respond to it, especially as the game goes on.
It's basically that "make their asses quit" mentality, in visual form.
I haven't seen that in years, but I swear I've seen it in these last two games.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 5:02 pm to Brostache48
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They also said Kirby is not happy with Daniel's and thinks he doesn't have the toughness needed to play through some injuries
The rumor that his pain tolerance is basically zero has been going around since last year. Apparently it's a big reason his rehab from the knee injury took forever. He wasn't able to aggressively rehab because he's a pussy.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 7:53 pm to Robot Santa
J.T. Daniels is one of the most over hyped players I've seen. Georgia fans hyped him up last year when he was beating up on patsies in the second half of their schedule. He almost cost them their bowl game against Cincinnati with some poor decisions. Plus he's not mobile at all.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:41 pm to bamatide07
The funniest part of it all is Georgia fans honestly think he could go throw for throw with Bryce. I read that he doesn't wow you in practice but turns it on in games. Sounds like he just doesn't take practice seriously. I don't blame Kirby for not trusting him to get the job done if he can't prove it with his preparation
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