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re: How did this team win 11 games?

Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:12 am to
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1513 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 11:12 am to
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Actually the offense predicated on the QB making vertical passes to open everything else up. So the actual scheme is pass first.

So in a vertical offense tell me how many times Ty Simpson attempted to actual make those vertical passes over 30 yards?

Tell us how many he completed?



It's interesting that you point this out when the offensive line couldn't consistently give him time to throw these type of passes. Every analyst on the planet pointed to Ty's getting the YIPS due to the offensive line consistently blowing blocking assignments. I'm sorry, but when a QB loses confidence in the OL it impacts his play. Is Simpson absolved from any criticism? No, but my god man, look at the responsibility put on his shoulders. We literally had no running game and the defenses KNEW we had to pass to have success, and yet he still performed as good as he did.

I'm sorry, you cannot discount the relationship between the offensive lines inconsistent pass blocking, Ty Simpson's performance and the complete lack of a running game. Name me another QB in college football who could carry an entire offense and do better with literally not having a running game and having an offensive line that consistenly got you drilled. Name me a quarterback in college football who could do that? I'll wait on your response.
Posted by RTRnFlorida
Member since Mar 2024
2730 posts
Posted on 1/3/26 at 12:21 pm to
Blake Simms, Bryce Young, Jalen, Milrun, Walter Lewis, Andrew Zow.

Terrible. And don’t give me the heisman for Bryce. Without Williams and Metchie, we lose 6 games like we did against Georgia
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20702 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:14 am to
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Blake Simms

Has a higher yards per game average than ty. Also won a sec championship game and even put points on the board in the playoff semifinals.
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Terrible.

Like your shitty, racist takes itt.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19807 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:40 am to
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It's interesting that you point this out when the offensive line couldn't consistently give him time to throw these type of passes.


Ty had more time the throw than Mendoza. Also, you can throw a fade route from a 3, 5 or 7 step dropback.

It's incredible to me how these basic football concepts aren't understood.

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I'm sorry, you cannot discount the relationship between the offensive lines inconsistent pass blocking, Ty Simpson's performance and the complete lack of a running game.


Again the offense is predicated on taking deep shots. Yet even before South Carolina, Ty didn't take many vertical shots.

Ty took many sacks because instead of juat slinging it he would panic and hold the ball.

Ty was figured out. It's not that hard to understand. Teams needed tape on his tendencies and UGA/Kirby found him out and stopped him the entire 2nd half.

From that point every team knew he wants to hold the ball forever and throw in the middle the field. They all knew he was inaccurate throwing fades and seams and due to his lack of confidence in those avoiding throwing those balls.

These teams aren't idiots. When they watch a AB only throw a couple passes and leave certain passes open they will adjust
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1513 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:44 am to
Like another poster on this board, you are GROSSLY over simplifying this in order to put lion's share of the blame on Ty. That is obvious.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19807 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:56 am to
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Like another poster on this board, you are GROSSLY over simplifying this in order to put lion's share of the blame on Ty. That is obvious.


I can go in great detail but I simplify due to the audience.. Who have a very simple and nonsensical defense.

I don't know how many times I have stated the offensive system is predicated on the QB consistent attempting vertical passes yet our QB was allergic to throwing them all season.

Okay, answer this for me..

If you have a vehicle that needs the highest octane level and semi-anal oil changes and you ignore that and used regular unleaded and get ould changes every two years... what will eventually happen?

It will break down.

So even before teams realized how limited our QB we were began to hit a ceiling of how many points we could score because our offense wasn't operating how it should. Once teams started following Kirby's blueprint and making their own adjustments we shrank. It's very easy to play a team when you know their QB won't threaten you vertically and likes to throw 3 specific passes while holding on to the ball. Just move safeties up to load the box with more defenders than blockers to put pressure on him and watch him collapse.

Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19807 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 8:58 am to
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That is obvious.


Another thing to point out that is very obvious was Ty was never sacked and Mendoza was under far more pressure and was sacked 3 times in the first half.

Yet Mendoza made play after play, kept making the right decisions and knew how to run, get down and protect the ball.

Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1513 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:02 am to
I've read your drivel. You don't know anymore about football than anyone else on the board. You've attached yourself to some football lingo and running with it like a child with a knife in his hand. The irony is you're telling other people they don't know what they're talking about then commence into an X's and O's explanation and making it obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12959 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:08 am to
Mendoza under more pressure

Good one Sport
Posted by wm72
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2010
9085 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:23 am to
There just seemed to be a snowball effect from a lot of individual position problems with our offense.


Ty couldn't complete/even attempt deep passes, held the ball or bailed backwards too often and missed a lot of blitzers he was responsible for.

Offensive line had trouble identifying who to block as a unit and getting right leverage to do so.

Backs had trouble hitting the holes when they were there.

Coaches needed to do a better job coaching in all these areas.

I'm not sure there's a single scapegoat nor a single victim to point since it just all snowballed.

Posted by bamabonners
Alabama
Member since Nov 2015
5048 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:27 am to
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I've read your drivel. You don't know anymore about football than anyone else on the board. You've attached yourself to some football lingo and running with it like a child with a knife in his hand. The irony is you're telling other people they don't know what they're talking about then commence into an X's and O's explanation and making it obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.


And yet you aren't offering any counterpoint. Take what ystar said and break it down how you see it.
This post was edited on 1/4/26 at 9:30 am
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
323 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:35 am to
icle that needs the highest octane level and semi-anal oil changes

Never forget to change the anal oil. Or it will be like bama/uga 2 and bama/iu.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19807 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:37 am to
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Mendoza under more pressure

Good one Sport


How many times was Ty Simpson sacked?

How many times was Mendoza sacked?

See, I deal in details not insults or repetitive general statements.
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
29479 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:37 am to
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anal oil changes


I hear those are a real pain in the arse.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19807 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:41 am to
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I've read your drivel. You don't know anymore about football than anyone else on the board.


Well the guys who actually know football tend to have civil conversations with me about the details without making blanket statements and insults.

There are many here and we tend to agree a lot and get on well. These are the guys which makes me still come here... yes I know you guys want me to leave permanently.

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The irony is you're telling other people they don't know what they're talking about then commence into an X's and O's explanation and making it obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.


Great, use the actual details without insults with specific play (with the time/quarter as reference) and/or statistics to actually have a grown up conversation with me.

You guys love to call other people names, insinuate they're racists, make odd sexualized insults, etc.. but actually discussing the points people make? You guys don't do that.

I'm happy to discuss the actual details. If you can't do that God bless and enjoy your Sunday.
Posted by YStar
Member since Mar 2013
19807 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:43 am to
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icle that needs the highest octane level and semi-anal oil changes

Never forget to change the anal oil. Or it will be like bama/uga 2 and bama/


Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1513 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 9:58 am to
Oh ive offered counter points in other posts. Im not going to repeat myself to someone whose picked up some football lingo on the internet and trying to convince people hes some X's and O's guru and everyone else are idiots.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
12959 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 10:03 am to
4 seconds needed to throw those deep shitty routes but only 3 seconds to actually get the pass out if hand.

Failed to mention the F lateral pattern to slow arse #4 as an outlet.

Even if #80 had just run 5 yards in between the LBers, you at least get a outlet. Instead, they have him running a longer route.

Fire F Grubb yesterday.

No QB is going to have success under this current scheme. No matter what color he is.
Posted by Woody4daTide9
Member since Sep 2022
1255 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 10:05 am to
A lot of this. I remember going back and watching Washington film when deboer was hired. Lots of crossing routes that I’ve yet to see at Alabama
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11836 posts
Posted on 1/4/26 at 10:09 am to
Yeah. I remember mesh being a big part of the cut up YouTube videos I watched. Not sure where that went.
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