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re: Grubb fired.

Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
12423 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:07 pm to
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You think the guy who just got fired for not running the ball will be the run game coordinator?



shite!
Posted by Wulfgar
Member since Jan 2013
2050 posts
Posted on 1/6/25 at 10:20 pm to
Don’t know how reliable Ol’ Booger is…
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Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3521 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:33 am to
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(“Cough, cough … Lane Kiffin absolutely would have made Jalen Milroe a super superduperstar … cough, cough.”)


I mean…we saw what he did with Blake Sims, a converted RB.
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3521 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:42 am to
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There's a difference between southern black and west coast black fyi




Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3521 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 3:48 am to
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Ryan Grubb wife is a black woman.


Umm ok. Sark was also married to a black woman. They were fine until they left the south…and she started sampling the roster…lol
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13041 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:07 am to
After reading an article about the Seahawks offense, it was probably a good thing Grubb wasn't at Alabama this year. Having Milroe throw the ball 40 times every game would not have led to many Alabama wins.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5184 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:41 am to
But even though he was a converted RB Blake Sims had the QB feel of Slingin' Sammy Baugh compared to Millroe. The tools aren't everything, you've got to have a "feel" for playing quarterback and Sims developed it and Millroe hasn't.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5184 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 7:43 am to
No coach we hire is going to "run the bawl Pawll and 'make their asses quit'" like the old farts in our fan base who see football as a test of manhood and not a game where the most points get you a W want.

That world is gone with the wind.
Posted by Legionfield
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
3521 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:00 am to
I fear you are correct….
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1100 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 8:37 am to
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No coach we hire is going to "run the bawl Pawll and 'make their asses quit'"


I'm not sure that's 100% accurate. Two teams with significantly less talent beat us this year by running the ball consistently, controlling the clock, and taking advantage of our turnovers. With the relatively new clock rules, teams are getting fewer possessions overall. Controlling the clock and limiting turnovers have increased in importance compared to explosive plays.

I'm not saying explosive plays aren't important, but when you can bleed more than five minutes off the clock just by getting one first down and eat up half a quarter with two first downs, you're putting tremendous pressure on the opposing offense to be very efficient when they have the ball.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9011 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:35 am to
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Mr. Blank has to cater to those that buy the tickets

I don't disagree. And kudos to him for doing so. That isn't a sign of a healthy system, though.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9011 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:53 am to
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I fear you are correct….


No reason to fear. What you do when the game evolves is evolve with it. Saban already started this process. Tua and BY would NEVER have come to BAMA in 2010. Saban started moving toward the future before anyone else did. Did that mean uga got 2 titles playing joyless murder ball because Saban switched? Maybe. But look at what BY did to uga in the 21 SECCG with a full compliment of receivers. And never forget he had BAMA up in the 4th qtr with NO receivers in the natty.

DeBoer (and if they get Grubb) will tear through the SEC. A good trigger man in this offense is going to light the scoreboard up. And BAMA has the best defense in the conference now.

But seriously, be honest, would you really change places with uga right now? I wouldn't. Uga has serious cracks that aren't going to be puttied by the portal. Kirby is behind on offense, and now his defense is getting manhandled by the likes of Notre Dame.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 10:03 am
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9011 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 9:59 am to
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Controlling the clock and limiting turnovers have increased in importance compared to explosive plays.

I'm not saying explosive plays aren't important, but when you can bleed more than five minutes off the clock just by getting one first down and eat up half a quarter with two first downs, you're putting tremendous pressure on the opposing offense to be very efficient when they have the ball.


The pressure is on the opposing offenses as well. Long drives must end in TDs. If you run 25 minutes off the clock on 2 drives and kick 2 FGs you can be beaten by one play. If the offense gets beat on one 4th down, even worse.
The pressure has changed, but it doesn't tilt to one side more than the other.
The thing that will change the most when BAMA has another qb is scoring inside the red zone. How many 12 yards or fewer TD passes did Milroe have in his career? I don't remember any this season. I get it. He ran the ball inside the red zone zone, but an underneath passing game is what will be the biggest change for BAMA in the post-Milroe era and it will lead to ppg increasing I'm betting.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 10:00 am
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
5184 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:09 am to
There’s a difference between what you’re describing and an I tailback running 40 times and a QB throwing 8 times offense which I submit a lot of folks here would give their firstborn to have because in their eyes it would be a “tougher” team.

Although one of my offensive baselines is you absolutely need to be able to man up and win the line of scrimmage and get one tough yard on the ground when you absolutely must have it. That will never change.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
13125 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:12 am to
Atlanta isn't going to win shite.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by Lucky_Stryke
central Bama
Member since Sep 2018
3111 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:13 am to
Carson beck turning into turnover machine really hampered them this year. They def need an offensive scheme overhaul though.
Posted by Sauron
Birmingham
Member since Dec 2015
1100 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:13 am to
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The pressure is on the opposing offenses as well. Long drives must end in TDs. If you run 25 minutes off the clock on 2 drives and kick 2 FGs you can be beaten by one play.


I don't disagree with this at all. A coach electing the ball-control option for his offense has to be completely confident in his team's ability to execute and not make mistakes. It's like investing in bonds vs. stocks -- it's a low-risk and usually a low-reward approach, but it pays dividends.

The coach also has to bank on his defense being able to get stops or turnovers. Unfortunately for us, Alabama was Jekyll-and-Hyde offensively this year. Even a small improvement in offensive consistency would have had us at worst 11-1 at the end of the regular season.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9011 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:20 am to
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Even a small improvement in offensive consistency would have had us at worst 11-1 at the end of the regular season.


It would've taken such little improvement from what BAMA got from Milroe to be a playoff team. It's comical at this point.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9011 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:22 am to
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Atlanta is going to win shite.


I know. The culture is bad there. They are traditionally a loser organization. It takes someone at the top that has been there, done that to change the culture. Belichik would've been perfect in ATL for the organization but horrible for the fans. They'd rather go 8-9 with Morris than 10-7 with Belichik.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
9011 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 10:30 am to
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Carson beck turning into turnover machine really hampered them this year. They def need an offensive scheme overhaul though.


Beck wasnt great this season. Most of their problems are scheme. I agree. But who's going to overhaul their offense? Bobo? Kirby? Saban hired Kiffin to change his. Then had Sark take it next level. Kirby isn't going to do that.

I wouldn't trade places with uga right now for anything.
They also have a new qb to break in this season.

I'd just about bet anything that DeBoer takes BAMA into Athens in Sept and whips uga, and I dont even know who BAMA's qb is going to be.

But I know uga has shite for receivers. Their running backs arent great. They dont have a Gurley or Sony Michell or Chubb to lean on. Their tight ends are their best offensive weapons. And now they have a new qb. I also know that their defense is a lot softer than it used to be.

BAMA has the advantage at QB, RB, WR, defense, and probably o-line, and most importantly scheme.
This post was edited on 1/7/25 at 10:32 am
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