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re: FYI John Doe on Milroe
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:13 pm to Shaft Williams
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:13 pm to Shaft Williams
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You guys seem to not understand at Bama where you are surrounded by 4 and 5 stars especially at the QB position you don't have the luxury of waiting to develop for years on end at many other places.
Oh right nobody understands but you. Of course. Like every other topic.
What we all understand and you seem incapable of understanding is that it's very possible Milroe is the best option of the bunch. The coaching staff clearly feels he is the best of the bunch and gives them the best opportunity to win football games in 2023, even with all his issues. It is possible that they are wrong, but there is zero tangible evidence available to those of us not inside the program that argues that Simpson or Buchner on DL is better or more prepared to be QB1 this week. Nothing. No film, no in-game performance, nothing. So, any argument otherwise is simply a guess or a projection based on second hand reports or just some sort of gut feeling. There is no argument otherwise.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:16 pm
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:17 pm to Shaft Williams
The immediate transfer rule sort of makes any comparisons to Stetson and Daniels moot. We already have a freshman RB who looks damn good and people are fearing he'll leave. I'm not saying all of Saban's methods must change but I do think there's a need for some adjustments. Pete Golding set this program back years. I've watched many on this board criticize Mack Wilson, Henry T and Christian Harris. These guys are all cashing NFL checks yet looked like trash under Golding. Matter of fact, Henry T and Christian Harris both led the Texans in tackles in their last game.
Settling for Milroe is another sign this program has regressed. Milroe won't lead this program to a natty.
Settling for Milroe is another sign this program has regressed. Milroe won't lead this program to a natty.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:18 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Nobody here gives a shite about who plays QB as long as they help Alabama win outside of about 1-2 folks.
It's unfortunately more than a couple. They will of course deny wanting Milroe to fail just so they can be right, but then they'll turn around and claim that the key to winning it all this year is to start Simpson or a true freshman who hasn't taken a snap in a real game yet. This lets you know they don't really give a frick about winning and just hate Milroe because reasons.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:20 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I've seen Saban start Hootie Jones over Deonte Thompson, Hurts over Tua, I believe Yeldon started over Derrick Henry at one point, etc. McLaughlin didn't even start all of last season when he was the best center. So please stop with the staff or Saban is playing the best guy. Saban plays favorites until his favorites either get injured or he can no longer justify starting them.
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:24 pm to RollTide33
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You can't take points away from the offense just because they had good field position.
You can if you're fully committed to moving the goalposts every time someone tears a hole in your latest stupid, meth addled ravings.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:25 pm to Shaft Williams
He wouldn't start Drew Sanders where he should have and he was a first round pick.
The guys we had playing where Sanders should have been were not close to first rounders.
The guys we had playing where Sanders should have been were not close to first rounders.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:27 pm to Shaft Williams
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I've seen Saban start Hootie Jones over Deonte Thompson, Hurts over Tua, I believe Yeldon started over Derrick Henry at one point, etc. McLaughlin didn't even start all of last season when he was the best center. So please stop with the staff or Saban is playing the best guy. Saban plays favorites until his favorites either get injured or he can no longer justify starting them.
Again, you suck at reading and comprehending or are just dishonest in your responses (this is the likely culprit).
I did not say Saban shouldn't be questioned. I said there is nothing that Simpson has shown to any of us (including you) that gives you reason to question this specific decision. Nothing.
People questioned Saban on Tua vs Hurts because Tua played in games and did things that were clearly better than what Hurts was doing. The counterpoint was he did then when games were out of reach, but people saw Tua do stuff with their eyes. They have evidences to lean on.
Simpson handed off 15 times and made one nice throw against USF. That's literally it. We watched him in A-Day and people saw him in the REC scrimmage and he was up and down at best. There is no evidence that he is a step up from the current QB.
So, again, you can argue Milroe's faults. You can say your gut tells you Simpson would be better based on his recruiting tape or how he throws in warmups. But acting like others are idiots because they don't agree with your religous like faith in Ty being a better QB than Milroe right now is ridiculous.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:28 pm to Crimson Wraith
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He wouldn't start Drew Sanders where he should have and he was a first round pick.
The guys we had playing where Sanders should have been were not close to first rounders.
Facts.
NIL and the immediate transfer rule along with the Golding experience have definitely knocked Saban down a peg or two. He doesn't have the luxury to manage the roster as he did in the past.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:28 pm to Crimson Wraith
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He wouldn't start Drew Sanders where he should have and he was a first round pick.
The guys we had playing where Sanders should have been were not close to first rounders.
We saw Drew Sanders play. We knew he was a high quality player. People arguing to see Drew Sanders play more did it based on evidence on the field.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:30 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Simpson looked better than Milroe in the A game and was injured. Milroe has sucked in 3 games in front of our eyes. You want to watch him continue sucking because of the supposed unknown that is Ty Simpson.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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But acting like others are idiots because they don't agree with your religous like faith
And what is mind-blowing is -- you guys who are arguing the counterpoint are losing your minds over people disagreeing with YOU. In fact, I made an observation and Mr. Robot lost his crap over it. A lot of what you and he are reading, is responses to your doing the very thing you are accusing THEM of doing
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
To top it off, Sanders was the guy who hurt Young at Ark.
Saban is hard-headed as hell, always has been.
Saban is hard-headed as hell, always has been.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:33 pm to Shaft Williams
I will never understand keeping an inept player as a starter because you don't know what the backup will do. That makes no sense.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:35 pm to Shaft Williams
#wintheteam
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:37 pm to Shaft Williams
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He wouldn't start Drew Sanders where he should have and he was a first round pick.
The guys we had playing where Sanders should have been were not close to first rounders.
Facts.
you mean these guys?
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I've watched many on this board criticize Mack Wilson, Henry T and Christian Harris. These guys are all cashing NFL checks yet looked like trash under Golding. Matter of fact, Henry T and Christian Harris both led the Texans in tackles in their last game.
eta: also:
Drew Sanders / Round: 3 / Pick: 67
Christian Harris / Round: 3 / Pick: 75
Henry Too'Too / Round: 5 / Pick: 167
This post was edited on 10/3/23 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:38 pm to Pastor Mike
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And what is mind-blowing is -- you guys who are arguing the counterpoint are losing your minds over people disagreeing with YOU. In fact, I made an observation and Mr. Robot lost his crap over it. A lot of what you and he are reading, is responses to your doing the very thing you are accusing THEM of doing
I'm discussing quarterback play and the options for who plays QB. I don't think Milroe has been great and I'm not convinced he will get a whole lot better, though I think that is possible. I'm not calling anyone an idiot for their opinion, but I think it's silly to pretend that someone with zero accomplishment or productivity is automatically going to be an upgrade over the starter because they simply exist on the depth chart.
I don't believe Milroe is totally unplayable at this point, especially without a clear other option. If Milroe struggles the first half Saturday and looks lost and unable to pull the trigger/pulls the trigger on bad decisions, then I have no issue deciding we've reached the end of the line and it's time to trot Ty out there and see if he's the type of guy who turns it on under the lights.
I just want to win games. I don't care who does it.
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:38 pm to Funky Tide 8
Is it unfair for me to expect Milroe as a 3rd year player at Bama to be better than Hurts was as a true freshman and sophomore?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:39 pm to Crimson Wraith
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Round selected?
Drew Sanders / Round: 3 / Pick: 67
Christian Harris / Round: 3 / Pick: 75
Henry Too'Too / Round: 5 / Pick: 167
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Can you read dumbass?
Come again?
Posted on 10/3/23 at 1:42 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Drew Sanders / Round: 3 / Pick: 67
Christian Harris / Round: 3 / Pick: 75
Henry Too'Too / Round: 5 / Pick: 167
And, all three were criminally under-utlilized by Golding and Saban let that happen.
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