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re: Did anyone else find Byrne’s comments yesterday off-putting?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:35 am to Allthatfades
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:35 am to Allthatfades
Well, for starters, I disagree with the assertion that if I do not give to the NIL subscription service then you cannot complain about losing players in recruiting out of high school or to the portal.
Anyone who thinks that is buying major collegiate administration framing of this situation. They knew where the courts were heading for a decade but were resolute in maintaining a system where schools bring in billions in revenue to major athletics programs at universities yet the talent gets treated like amateurs who cannot even profit from their own likeness much less get revenue shares above the cost of their scholarship package.
The major players could have been proactive and gotten ahead of the court rulings with a system that ended the lawsuits and denied the opportunity for the justice system haphazardly defining the system for you. They didn't. They wanted to play the pauper with the talent and the courts were not buying it.
Now with this pay for play structure - that everyone knew would emerge with the court defined changes to the system - the ADs are playing the pauper with the alumni and fans. I'm not buying it.
If the major universities in athletics cannot figure out how to redistribute their revenue to the athletes then that is their problem not my problem. The reality is athletics departments have gotten addicted to the excess revenue gained on advantages of not appropriately compensating their on-field labor in major sports that generates the revenue. Instead of accepting they are going to have to trim their operations and pay their major sports talent out of their own pockets, they want to play the pauper and ask all us to pay the talent that creates their salaries.
I do not begrudge the athletes making money in ways they could not before. I just won't be funding it. I'm not giving my excess money for a young man who has essentially no expenses due to their scholarship package so they can drive a hellcat. My excess money for college kids is going in my children's 529 funds for when they are in college.
Anyone who thinks that is buying major collegiate administration framing of this situation. They knew where the courts were heading for a decade but were resolute in maintaining a system where schools bring in billions in revenue to major athletics programs at universities yet the talent gets treated like amateurs who cannot even profit from their own likeness much less get revenue shares above the cost of their scholarship package.
The major players could have been proactive and gotten ahead of the court rulings with a system that ended the lawsuits and denied the opportunity for the justice system haphazardly defining the system for you. They didn't. They wanted to play the pauper with the talent and the courts were not buying it.
Now with this pay for play structure - that everyone knew would emerge with the court defined changes to the system - the ADs are playing the pauper with the alumni and fans. I'm not buying it.
If the major universities in athletics cannot figure out how to redistribute their revenue to the athletes then that is their problem not my problem. The reality is athletics departments have gotten addicted to the excess revenue gained on advantages of not appropriately compensating their on-field labor in major sports that generates the revenue. Instead of accepting they are going to have to trim their operations and pay their major sports talent out of their own pockets, they want to play the pauper and ask all us to pay the talent that creates their salaries.
I do not begrudge the athletes making money in ways they could not before. I just won't be funding it. I'm not giving my excess money for a young man who has essentially no expenses due to their scholarship package so they can drive a hellcat. My excess money for college kids is going in my children's 529 funds for when they are in college.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 7:38 am
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:36 am to Bryant91092
Across CFB asking the fans the fund these players is ridiculous, Alabama or elsewhere. At some point the fans who built this into a multi-billion dollar business are going to say no more and the TV execs and administrators who got us to this point will be asking "what happened".
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:37 am to Night Vision
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All these fat cats need to pony up for NIL, Saban included.
Nobody donates to the Cowboys so they can pay their players, why should they in college?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:37 am to imjustafatkid
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there are much more worthy causes in need of my money. Sports aren't important.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:39 am to Section 80
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Nobody donates to the Cowboys so they can pay their players, why should they in college?
This is exactly it. None of these NFL franchises are begging their fans to make payroll. The franchises may payroll because the fans are watching NFL on television, buying season tickets packages, and purchasing NFL licensed apparel.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 7:40 am
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:41 am to Diego Ricardo
Even with the coming rev share for the athletes this NIL is not going away. The ADs will still be asking for money because the arms race will just be NIL on top of what the kid gets from the revenue sharing.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:42 am to Diego Ricardo
Well that is the cost to be king. From the beginning of time players were cut out; it was okay because universities didn't prioritize generating revenue.
Once universities prioritized generating huge revenue; coaches got in on it getting paid huge contracts. The staff got on it getting paid big. The ADs, heck even other sports were getting in on it by using football revenue to upgrade their facilities, pay for their experience and basically subsidize their amazing existence.
They did this all while purposes ignoring they the players were only getting scholarships and idiots who said that was good enough are also part of the problem.
You can't give people the same thing (scholarship, board and food) for generating 8 to 9 figures for your organization as what you give other people who don't generate that much or negatively cost the organization.
It's crazy when the same people who clown the WNBA absolutely miss that universities have been doing the same crap but their okay with that because their kids can benefit from it
Once universities prioritized generating huge revenue; coaches got in on it getting paid huge contracts. The staff got on it getting paid big. The ADs, heck even other sports were getting in on it by using football revenue to upgrade their facilities, pay for their experience and basically subsidize their amazing existence.
They did this all while purposes ignoring they the players were only getting scholarships and idiots who said that was good enough are also part of the problem.
You can't give people the same thing (scholarship, board and food) for generating 8 to 9 figures for your organization as what you give other people who don't generate that much or negatively cost the organization.
It's crazy when the same people who clown the WNBA absolutely miss that universities have been doing the same crap but their okay with that because their kids can benefit from it
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:47 am to bamaphan13
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Even with the coming rev share for the athletes this NIL is not going away. The ADs will still be asking for money because the arms race will just be NIL on top of what the kid gets from the revenue sharing.
Yeah but once they become employees, you can do contracts, and when you do contracts then Lambo of Austin can't quite as easily poach your players for Sark's roster. NIL will exist. No doubt but schools will be able to limit freedom of movement in a court-friendly way.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:48 am to Allthatfades
Until legal binding contracts are issued to these players, no one should contribute a dime to these entitled little bastards. There’s families dealing with cancer of a child and there’s homeless veterans on the streets. Contributing money so a kid can get rich while paying college athletics is not a priority of mine and it never will be
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:53 am to Allthatfades
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Is Alabama’s NIL really in that bad of a place that he feels he has to come out and beg fans for money?
this isn't an alabama thing, it's a "this is the way the idiots in charge have made CFB nowadays" thing. Collectives are still mostly a new thing that lots of people aren't familiar or comfortable with yet. For the vast majority of people they give money in the form of their season ticket donation, which has nothing to do with NIL. You can give $5K a year to get a couple season tickets but that doesn't do anything to help pay the high 6 figure salary for some backup transfer that you want to land. So now the ADs and coaches have to plead to give more money but this time give it to a different source. It's pitiful but I definitely don't think this is an issue with Alabama.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:54 am to FoTownBam
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There’s families dealing with cancer of a child and there’s homeless veterans on the streets.
This was happening before players got the ability to receive NIL.
The entire system of college football has been wrecked by universities, ADs, broadcast networks and coaches greed yet you draw the line when players want to get their cut as well?
It's this mentality that has us at this point.
Instead of creating a system that mindfully gave them a controlled cut, people stuck their heads in the sand and screamed "they're already on scholarship!!".
Well thanks for this because that mentality created this future.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:56 am to Allthatfades
Perhaps the Yea Alabama NIL model is a flawed one. For instance, who is buying LANK merchandise?
Perhaps Byrne has pissed off long time donors to the program with the way he has treated the REC this year.
Perhaps Byrne has pissed off long time donors to the program with the way he has treated the REC this year.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 7:58 am to YStar
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The entire system of college football has been wrecked by universities, ADs, broadcast networks and coaches greed yet you draw the line when players want to get their cut as well?
All the other entities you mention work within binding contracts, and generally speaking there are monetary penalties for not upholding those contracts.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:00 am to YStar
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This was happening before players got the ability to receive NIL.
The entire system of college football has been wrecked by universities, ADs, broadcast networks and coaches greed yet you draw the line when players want to get their cut as well?
It's this mentality that has us at this point.
Instead of creating a system that mindfully gave them a controlled cut, people stuck their heads in the sand and screamed "they're already on scholarship!!".
Well thanks for this because that mentality created this future.
Yeah but collegiate administrator intransigence and many fans buying their duplicitous arguments has nothing to do with where my disposable income is going. I supported the players getting paid but I was a bit of an optimist in believing that the major universities in athletics would make a grand compromise to integrate that reality into the system gracefully. They didn't and I don't feel sorry for them. I dramatically underestimated how college athletics is a bunch of petty fiefdoms who cannot work together. It is a wonder that athletics conferences can even manage to exist with these guys.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:03 am to Allthatfades
Yeah, I'm not paying for players. The sport can either right its wrongs, or die. I don't give a frick anymore.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:04 am to GreenJay
Worst thing one can do is just throw money at a situation. We need to be the Warren Buffett of programs.
Crazy thing is Michigan got Larry Ellison to throw a bag at a qb and he's not even connected to the school. He went to Illinois.
Crazy thing is Michigan got Larry Ellison to throw a bag at a qb and he's not even connected to the school. He went to Illinois.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:08 am to RollTide4Ever
And with HS recruiting and how the "talent" is allocated not by a draft like pro leagues is a big fly in the ointment.
All it takes is for one #1 recruit to say I am only signing a contract for one year w/ no penalties and some school will give it to them. Then next yr the top 10 recruits all ask for same thing.
All it takes is for one #1 recruit to say I am only signing a contract for one year w/ no penalties and some school will give it to them. Then next yr the top 10 recruits all ask for same thing.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:11 am to YStar
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yet you draw the line when players want to get their cut as well?
They can get their cut if they want it, but I’m not going to be the one to give it to them. I’ll chose to give my money to more important things
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:22 am to RollTide4Ever
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Crazy thing is Michigan got Larry Ellison to throw a bag at a qb and he's not even connected to the school. He went to Illinois.
His latest young enough to be his granddaughter trophy wife is a Michigan grad. She probably sucked a golfball through a garden hose for that donation.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 8:25 am to YStar
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This was happening before players got the ability to receive NIL.
The entire system of college football has been wrecked by universities, ADs, broadcast networks and coaches greed yet you draw the line when players want to get their cut as well?
It's this mentality that has us at this point.
Instead of creating a system that mindfully gave them a controlled cut, people stuck their heads in the sand and screamed "they're already on scholarship!!".
Well thanks for this because that mentality created this future
It's not about them getting paid. It's about whose wallet their salary comes out of.
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