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Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:49 am
Posted on 10/29/20 at 11:49 am
I can't recall the last time that I've seen our linemen penetrate and tackle backs in the backfield like they have in the last two games. We also played pretty well up front against Tennessee save a few third and long draw plays that burned us early.
It has been my understanding that Strong's defensive philosophy has been one gap penetration from the D-line. Are we starting to see the results of Strong's philosophy in our schemes?
It has been my understanding that Strong's defensive philosophy has been one gap penetration from the D-line. Are we starting to see the results of Strong's philosophy in our schemes?
Posted on 10/29/20 at 12:11 pm to LovetheLord
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It has been my understanding that Strong's defensive philosophy has been one gap penetration from the D-line. Are we starting to see the results of Strong's philosophy in our schemes?
Despite the lack of sacks, supposedly we are generating good pressure in the backfield. Tied for 1st in the SEC in total pressures per Aaron Suttles article on The Athletic. They also go on to say that sacks are not the “end all be all” of good d-line play
Overall I’m optimistic that Bama has put together at least a very good half of defense in every game except Ole Miss. Bunch of young guys plus Moses could easily improve and Lebryan Ray could return and provide help
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Posted on 10/29/20 at 1:23 pm to Glorious
I'm not sure if there is any part of our defense that hasn't played better in the last 2 games. I believe Guarantano may have thought he was a better QB than he should have, but I didn't get the impression coach Saban really wanted to press the issue that much.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 2:57 pm to bamameister
Well, Tn kept running the ball on 3rd and 5 or 6.
We wont see that if we play Clemson or Ohio st. Tn was very conservative with their play calling.
Anyone hear Chris Lowe on Finebum today. He interviewed Saban a few days ago. Saban told Lowe that offenses have exceeded defenses in today's game. Lowe told Saban he couldnt believe he was saying that. Saban said, "I didnt say I like it." But, its just something we have to get used to.
We wont see that if we play Clemson or Ohio st. Tn was very conservative with their play calling.
Anyone hear Chris Lowe on Finebum today. He interviewed Saban a few days ago. Saban told Lowe that offenses have exceeded defenses in today's game. Lowe told Saban he couldnt believe he was saying that. Saban said, "I didnt say I like it." But, its just something we have to get used to.
Posted on 10/29/20 at 3:09 pm to IB4bama
There's some truth to that: you aren't going to see very many lockdown defenses that give up 10 points per game anymore. And Covid hasn't helped this season, limiting the amount of preseason and practice contact that would normally happen. But it bothers me that Saban says that like he's almost giving up, like it's a copout. There's plenty of room for improvement with our defense, especially in getting guys on the ground instead of grabbing and arm tackling, and in being in position to do your job and make a play. We've been hugely inconsistent in setting the edge, overrunning the play, not getting there on blitzes, and not making the tackle when we are in position. Then you pile on with just stupid calls with the stunts and blitzes and it's no wonder we can't get off the field. But you can see that the potential is there for the D to be much more solid, there's just one or two breakdowns on most plays that are blowing up the whole package.
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 8:16 am to IB4bama
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Anyone hear Chris Lowe on Finebum today. He interviewed Saban a few days ago. Saban told Lowe that offenses have exceeded defenses in today's game. Lowe told Saban he couldnt believe he was saying that. Saban said, "I didnt say I like it." But, its just something we have to get used to.
He had previously talked about the defense just getting stops and it's not about stats with this team. So, actually, coach Saban has been consistent with his defensive message.
I really was curious about The barners and Ole Miss Saturday. Kevin Steele came out in a 3-2-6 but looked like he was playing a lot of man to a man in it. And immediately Kiffin committed to the run for the game. Which meant they held Ole Miss to about half their passing production per game. Must have watched the Bama tape. The barn took their medicine all day by giving up over 250 yards on the ground but they were trading off all those explosive plays Kiffin dials up through the air. The rebels had about 450 yards for the game. But only 2 explosive players through the air and ended up with only 28 points. Keep in mind the barn's defense was gutted with graduation and COVID loss. All DBs were new and they already had lost one of their starting corners for the season.
I think this is another example of a new-age defense that should have all of us lowering our defensive expectations. Given the barn's personnel issues and Kiffin's scheming ways, I thought Kevin Steele's creativity had a great day.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 8:29 am to LovetheLord
We’ve been much better defensively the last two games, but I’m not convinced yet that it isn’t because of the styles of offense we’ve played in those games. Time will tell.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 8:29 am to LovetheLord
Go check out Ben Litvin on Twitter and see his thoughts on the Def.
“ Yup. Plus the defensive front was excellent and (most importantly, as it relates to Golding) the back end of the defense was consistently positioned to make plays. Sometimes they lost individual matchups (to better players) and sometimes they got beat by high level pass concepts.”
“ Yup. Plus the defensive front was excellent and (most importantly, as it relates to Golding) the back end of the defense was consistently positioned to make plays. Sometimes they lost individual matchups (to better players) and sometimes they got beat by high level pass concepts.”
Posted on 10/30/20 at 8:29 am to LovetheLord
Moses, Harris, Wright , and Battle have struggled But other than that Everyone else on the defense has been pretty good IMo
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Posted on 10/30/20 at 8:34 am to CrimsonBoz
“Here’s what I think people don’t get about the defense. Let’s say the worst case scenario comes to pass and, by playoff time, the defense hasn’t improved. Even in that scenario, their odds of beating either Clemson or OSU are no worse than ~40%.”
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:10 am to mistaken4193
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Moses, Harris, Wright , and Battle have struggled But other than that Everyone else on the defense has been pretty good IMo
I think Moses and Harris have been pretty good since 2nd half of Georgia. Wright and Battle just have to be more consistent and I believe with more reps they can get there.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 9:54 am to BamaFan107
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Wright and Battle just have to be more consistent and I believe with more reps they can get there.
I'm not sure why Wright isn't getting more browny points for his nose for the football. He's been back there ball-hawking all season. Some of us might have to get used to the green-haired one, but really guys, he hasn't been the biggest problem on D.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:01 am to bamameister
let me be clear about one thing. Saban did not say its something we have to get used to. His replay to Lowe was "I didnt say I like it" I added that last part.
Clearly, the defensive play has improved some, and it should continue to improve. Saban said this week the safeties have improved some, but need to be more consistent. and he said usually when we give up a big play, a safety is a part in the defensive problem.
Clearly, the defensive play has improved some, and it should continue to improve. Saban said this week the safeties have improved some, but need to be more consistent. and he said usually when we give up a big play, a safety is a part in the defensive problem.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:04 am to IB4bama
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Saban said this week the safeties have improved some, but need to be more consistent. and he said usually when we give up a big play, a safety is a part in the defensive problem.
Did the coach say anything about finally getting some edge containment?
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:09 am to bamameister
You’re right. Wright has caught some flak from me this year, but never for his pass coverage - it’s the weak tackle attempts I see, and he is NOT the only one.
Moses has played better since the UGA game, but Harris is still super inconsistent. He will lay the wood one play, and then completely whiff on the next. It’s crazy how bad we are at tackling: from the angles we take, to breaking down, to actual tackling form. We need someone to come in and teach these kids how to properly tackle.
Moses has played better since the UGA game, but Harris is still super inconsistent. He will lay the wood one play, and then completely whiff on the next. It’s crazy how bad we are at tackling: from the angles we take, to breaking down, to actual tackling form. We need someone to come in and teach these kids how to properly tackle.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 10:21 am to Hawaiian Punch
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You’re right. Wright has caught some flak from me this year, but never for his pass coverage - it’s the weak tackle attempts I see, and he is NOT the only one.
Moses has played better since the UGA game, but Harris is still super inconsistent. He will lay the wood one play, and then completely whiff on the next. It’s crazy how bad we are at tackling: from the angles we take, to breaking down, to actual tackling form. We need someone to come in and teach these kids how to properly tackle.
And that's the rub for me too. No one could watch Alabama football this past decade without getting a Masters in fundamentals. Regardless of the score.
I didn't believe for a second we were going to struggle with our defensive schemes in the last 2 weeks. Not one second. My only concern was tackling and technique. Fundamentals should never be apart of the issue, even when coach Saban is describing how offense beats defense.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:04 am to bamameister
After the TN game he talked about how we could not stop the Tn running game with 3 (he could have said 4) linemen, so we had to put another D lineman in to stop their run. But, that makes it more difficult on the safeties. CNS said in the second half we did a better job.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 11:23 am to mistaken4193
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Moses, Harris, Wright , and Battle have struggled But other than that Everyone else on the defense has been pretty good IMo
I agree with this, although I would add the outside LB’s too. Allen has had a few nice plays, but that’s about it. Corners have been great. The safeties are the worst we’ve had in years.
Posted on 10/30/20 at 12:22 pm to IB4bama
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After the TN game he talked about how we could not stop the Tn running game with 3 (he could have said 4) linemen, so we had to put another D lineman in to stop their run. But, that makes it more difficult on the safeties. CNS said in the second half we did a better job.
I thought Tennessee did a good job of running with their 3 wide receiver look. But frankly, most of the time I saw Alabama trying to run their nickel package between the 20s. They were in a 4-2 look most of the time. I personally would have liked to see both Allen and Anderson on the front a whole lot more between the 20s. Guarantano has a history of not knowing his name when he panics. And the pressure will do that. When the vols got in the red zone we got caught with our pants down at least once trying to sub an extra lineman on the field. But getting more beef on the field is the smart thing to do every time on that end of the field. Overall, I thought we were a lot more respectful of their WRs than the running game.
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