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Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:23 pm to
Posted by Goforit
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Posted on 7/7/25 at 11:23 pm to
Chris Capps will probably hunt you down. The good news is that you can easily run around him
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:31 am to
AU thinks the NIL money to a player has to also count in the 21.5 Million profit sharing per year. No other school is seeing it this way. What am I missing and why is AU interpreting it this way. You would think the Bama's of the world have already gotten the NCAA's blessings on what the rule means. AU is claiming it will all unfold by 8/1 which is the first day you can offer a dollar amount to a player out of the 21.5 M. And what happens if an incoming true frosh makes more than a starter. I assume new recruits starting in the 2026 class could not official receive anything until 8/1/26 even though a dollar amount could be presented to them 8/1/25. Any thoughts
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 9:37 am to
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why is AU interpreting it this way


Because they are trying to grasp with AU poor recruiting. They cannot understand why instate recruits would pick UA over them or why their class is ranked so low. So, they have created a fairy tale scenario to feel better but in reality, come 8/1 it will come crashing down and they will scramble to come up with another story to convince themselves they will prevail.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:04 am to
Also not sure where the 8/1 is coming from. AU fans state that is when they can officially offer in writing but info out there is revenue sharing started n July 1.

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The NIL Portal will be used as a resource for College Athletes as they navigate dealing with the NIL deals they're offered on a daily basis. The athletes will report their NIL deals to ensure they're in compliance with NCAA rules as any deal worth more than $600 needs to be approved by the clearinghouse. The portal will serve as a resource for the athletes with information for the athletes as well as the chance to connect with service providers.

July 1st, 2025: First Date for direct institutional revenue sharing to student-athletes


I also read that no one is convinced the CSC and the new system has the teeth legally to prevent any player from not submitting his NIL deals. NIL deals from endorsements are still legal and do not count against the cap.

Also, the school can pay an athlete directly and not have it go against the cap.

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The new agreement allows players to sign outside contracts. However, a new wrinkle requires NIL contracts to be sent through a clearinghous called NIL Go, an online portal built in partnership with Deloitte, to ensure "fair market value" and valid business purpose based on an actual endorsement. For example, a rotation offensive lineman could potentially make six figures in the NIL era. While are still allowed to do that with a revenue-sharing contract, future NIL contracts are expected to be far more stringent. Additionally, the CSC has the right to prohibit NIL compensation from a group it classifies as "Associated Entities or Individuals," which would seem to mean boosters.

Take a player like Cooper Flagg at Duke. His brand value would be considered high for Duke, which could allow the school to pay him for an endorsement without pulling from their revenue sharing money.


Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 10:23 am to
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AU thinks the NIL money to a player has to also count in the 21.5 Million profit sharing per year. No other school is seeing it this way. What am I missing and why is AU interpreting it this way. You would think the Bama's of the world have already gotten the NCAA's blessings on what the rule means. AU is claiming it will all unfold by 8/1 which is the first day you can offer a dollar amount to a player out of the 21.5 M. And what happens if an incoming true frosh makes more than a starter. I assume new recruits starting in the 2026 class could not official receive anything until 8/1/26 even though a dollar amount could be presented to them 8/1/25. Any thoughts


So what you're saying is Auburn fans are gonna be as disappointed as the folks who were waiting for the Epstein file, huh?
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:02 am to
I don’t know what they’re confused by.

The revenue sharing allows up to the 21.5 million across all sports, given directly by the school. The athletes are still allowed to profit off their NiL, but only in legitimate ways(aka no more new Lamborghini and 4 million dollars for “appearances”). Your NiL income outside of revenue sharing is submitted to a clearinghouse to authenticate its legitimacy.


What Alabama is offering that they aren’t is pro development(we actually send players to the NFL), and a much bigger brand that allows for more legitimate NiL opportunities outside of revenue sharing. So yeah, we’re probably offering Cederian Morgan the same money, but he knows his development and star opportunity is a lot bigger at UA.

AU hasn’t had a guy who’d have been in ads outside of the greater Auburn area in 15 years. It’s not rocket science. You’ve got one big billionaire booster who is aging and fat. Better figure out what’s next pretty quickly.
Posted by Bham Bammer
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:19 am to
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AU thinks the NIL money to a player has to also count in the 21.5 Million profit sharing per year.

They are morons if they think that's true.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8666 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:21 am to
Barners were born morons. I hate Barners. Some say hate is too strong of a word. No it isn't.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:24 am to
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AU hasn’t had a guy who’d have been in ads outside of the greater Auburn area in 15 years.


Cam is really the only guy they've had with that kind of star power since Bo. They have always been a purely regional program that national media is only going to care about if they're really good or embroiled in scandal. We are not. Historically they are the runt of the Big 6, but now that Texas and OU are in the SEC the Barn is pushed further down the ladder.

Also, the whole "fake NIL offers" argument is ridiculous. They know exactly how much money they're going to allocate to football and how much they can get from boosters to put the players in ads for their businesses. None of this information is wait and see, so there'd be little point in misleading recruits. Much less for every other major program in the country to all be doing it.
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:49 am to
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Cam is really the only guy they've had with that kind of star power since Bo. They have always been a purely regional program that national media is only going to care about if they're really good or embroiled in scandal



Exactly this. Just since Cam, we’ve had Richardson, Henry, Hurts, Tua, Devonta, Bryce and Milroe(despite his play) and Ryan Williams that have been “national ad” type players(NiL wasn’t around for some but they’d have been). That’s multiple players at multiple positions. Guys like Surtain, Allen, Anderson and Minkah would’ve had big regional ads. We offer more opportunity more consistently because no one nationally really cares about you hoping to go 9-3 every 4 years and your head coach buyouts.

You don’t win enough to be Alabama, you don’t have brand recognition like Texas, you don’t have the alumni power of an aTm. You don’t even have the weird swamp people “allure” that the media gives to LSU where it’s cool to be a drunk redneck as long as you have a funny Cajun accent and wear beads.

You’ve got proximity to Atlanta and a billionaire atm machine that is 83 years old.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11314 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 1:28 pm to
I think it is entirely possible that Jimmy has started pulling back his money to solidify his estate for whomever inherits it.
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
213 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:07 pm to
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Your NiL income outside of revenue sharing is submitted to a clearinghouse to authenticate its legitimacy.



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Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:21 pm to
If it’s struck down then there’s 0 reason to do revenue sharing.

I don’t think it’s an anti-trust issue because the ncaa isn’t limiting players from profiting as much as they want or are able to. If your ability to earn money is contingent upon you playing as part of one of the ncaa football teams then they have some say in the legitimacy of those opportunities. Otherwise what’s to stop a player from suing the ncaa over being suspended for grade issues? Or suing a school for suspending him for poor conduct?

If you can make money doing ads for Dr Pepper for 3 years while not playing and still getting drafted then go for it! Or play for the UFL. But I think the ncaa and its member schools should have some say over what is expected of its athletes.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:25 pm to
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5-star LB Xavier Griffin fully credits Kalen DeBoer's staff for recruiting him to Alabama.

He says he spoke with Nick Saban once when he was a freshman:

"The haters just want to talk. They said Nick Saban can't save us, and then now they're just talking about (he's) saving us. So I mean, they're just going to talk."
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11314 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:52 pm to
Nobody wants to hear it but the only way the stupid shite and lawsuits stop is with labor organization of the athletes and collective bargaining agreements between the players union and schools. There is no path forward that stands up to legal scrutiny where the schools can have a rational competitive system and act like the players aren’t employees.
This post was edited on 7/8/25 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
6852 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:55 pm to
Honestly, the biggest thing I’m surprised that HASNT been tested in a major way in courts is eligibility.

Players like Paiva, Mark Sears, Adrian Martinez and on and on who don’t really have much of a chance to catch on professionally and could make a lot more money staying in college than overseas or the UFL.


You’re allowed to be a 29 year old taking college classes for the 11th year in a row, so the ncaa arbitrarily deciding you get 4 years of eligibility if you’re an enrolled student is as big if not bigger issue than NiL clearinghouse.

With the clearinghouse you at least have the argument of the players ARE being compensated and we’re allowing them legitimate options for NiL that don’t violate our bylaws. With eligibility it’s a random number decided upon decades ago that eliminates earning potential after a certain period of time.
Posted by Sandkhan
Hells and Wilderness, Northeast MS
Member since Jun 2009
6852 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:56 pm to
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Nobody wants to hear it but the only way the stupid shite and lawsuits stop is with labor organization of the athletes and collective bargaining agreements between the players union and schools. There is no path forward that stands up to legal scrutiny where the schools can have a rational competitive system and act like the players aren’t employees.


I agree. That’s the end game of all this and the sooner we rip the bandaid off and get to it the better.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
11314 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:57 pm to
AJ McCarron should have been Nick Saban’s Tom Brady in a just society.
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
213 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 3:58 pm to
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I don’t think it’s an anti-trust issue because the ncaa isn’t limiting players from profiting as much as they want or are able to.


But the clearinghouse would and that's why it'll crumble at the first lawsuit. When a booster wants to pay a player 500,000 dollars to show up to a ribbon cutting at one of his businesses and the clearinghouse rejects it, the lawsuit will be filed the next day. And the player will win.
Posted by Bamadog75
Alabama
Member since Mar 2017
1667 posts
Posted on 7/8/25 at 4:02 pm to
From what I understand the rule is everything before August 1 promised nil deals are going to be allowed. After august 1 it's just the 20 million to be shared with like 85 %going to football. So I think most colleges are offering mega deals before the rule comes into effect. The boogers are waiting thinking they will be in trouble by offering big money before August 1. Sounds to me like they are playing with fire.
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