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re: Class of 2017 Recruiting MEGATHREAD: Say Your Goodbyes Edition
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:31 pm to Bama3714
Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:31 pm to Bama3714
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m that I have heard from definitely don't. They think he has to get MUCH more physical. I'd be absolutely shocked out of my mind if he started this year.
Listen. CJ Mosley played rover at Theodore HS and was barely 215 as a senior in HS. No one expected him to get more starting PT over Nico Johnson next to Dont'a Hightower. CJ was and is a for sure tackler. Same with Ben Davis, does not miss tackles. Sure he could lay the wood when he bulked up to 235. Ben Davis is already at a lean 240 and runs like a deer. Guess we will find out won't we?
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Posted on 3/21/16 at 9:49 pm to Bama3714
It very well could be Evans but lets not act like people are absolutely crazy for thinking SDH could start. They were in the same class, SDH has seen the field a little more over the past 2 years, and now Evans has to learn a new position. Also, SDH is extremely smart which is a nice attribute to have as an ILB.
Now Evans is a better athlete and has more upside. I also remember he looked extremely good as a stand-up LB in his high school film, but he's only been at ILB a few practices so all anyone can do right now is speculate.
Now Evans is a better athlete and has more upside. I also remember he looked extremely good as a stand-up LB in his high school film, but he's only been at ILB a few practices so all anyone can do right now is speculate.
Posted on 3/21/16 at 11:53 pm to sarc
SDH will start for games like Arkansas, LSU etc. Evans starts against spread teams.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 2:52 am to sarc
I never said SDH couldn't start. Like I've said, though, it would likely be against running teams and only if Evans falls flat on his face against Spread teams. I just don't get the logic of one of the posters saying that someone wouldn't be able to beat out SDH or Holcombe at ILB since Evans is likely to be the starter.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 3:35 am to Bama3714
I said Ben Davis not evans
Posted on 3/22/16 at 4:23 am to Tide or Die87
I'm confused as to why people are down on SDH. Last year he filled gaps well and stuck his head in there when he played. I mean he was behind a first rounder and a potential first rounder. His experience will be valuable. It will take Evans more than one spring to understand the mob spot.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 8:08 am to Tide or Die87
With the speed we saw Evans have off the edge I do not understand why Bama would move him inside into traffic that seems like it would not be utilizing his best attribute which is his speed and athleticism?
Posted on 3/22/16 at 8:52 am to Bama3714
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I just don't get the logic of one of the posters saying that someone wouldn't be able to beat out SDH or Holcombe at ILB since Evans is likely to be the starter.
Seems you are the only one throwing out "Mods" and "Close to the program " sources. Everyone else is giving thier opinions.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 8:55 am to Bama3714
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I just don't get the logic of one of the posters saying that someone wouldn't be able to beat out SDH or Holcombe at ILB since Evans is likely to be the starter.
Evans may well win the job but saying he's "likely" the starter when the competition has barely begun is just blind allegiance to so-called insiders. It's no more logical than assuming SDH will start.
At one time insiders had Alec Morris starting after AJ too.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 8:58 am to sarc
We made Robert Beal's Top 7. He had us listed first, but said the list wasn't in order:
He's gotten a couple CBs to Georgia in the last week.
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The Norcross (Ga.) product, a one-time Notre Dame commit, listed Alabama, Georgia, Florida State, Texas, Miami, Tennessee and LSU in no particular order.
He's gotten a couple CBs to Georgia in the last week.
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 8:59 am
Posted on 3/22/16 at 9:01 am to TideSaint
Seeing as a lot of discussion has centered on Evans' potential move to ILB, I figured I'd bring this free content from BOL detailing the situation:
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TUSCALOOSA -- Spring is a time for change. And that’s the philosophy Alabama head coach Nick Saban and his staff live by during the Crimson Tide’s 15 annual practices that make up its spring season.
Evans recorded 10 tackles, four sacks and three QB hurries in 2015.
Several experiments have taken place on the field in just two practices, with players moving from old positions to new ones, and the biggest has been outside linebacker Rashaan Evans’ move to inside linebacker.
The rising junior linebacker spent the first two practices of Alabama’s 2016 spring season working under first-year defensive coordinator Jeremy Pruitt, and Saban has liked what he’s seen from Evans.
“He’s done a very good job,” Saban said Monday evening in a post-practice press conference. “We recruited him because he had great fast twitch ability to rush on the edge and he did a good job of that last year. We still have every plan to use him at that, but we were looking at where can he develop as an every-down position player the best.
“We do a lot of experimenting in the spring. We want to know who can do what so we know how to put the pieces together in the fall, so we move guys around and play them at different positions and we’ll do a lot of that.”
Evans showed exactly why Saban and company want to send the versatile linebacker on the field as much as possible in 2016 in the College Football Playoff National Championship Game by recording two sacks.
But even though the former five-star recruit showed he can wreak havoc off the edge against fast-tempo teams like Clemson, he was stuck behind proven pass rushers in Ryan Anderson and Tim Williams.
That’s one of the main reasons for his move to inside linebacker this spring. And according to rising senior Reuben Foster -- who like Evans, also hails from Auburn -- the younger Evans is turning heads this spring.
“I’ve seen greatness in him, like footwork, all that,” Foster said Monday evening. “He brings a lot. For our defense, he moves quick and he can get to the ball much faster, so that’s a win.”
With 13 spring practices left on the schedule, including the A-Day Game on April 16, Evans will compete with Shaun Hamilton, Keith Holcombe, Adonis Thomas and Joshua McMillon -- who is another outside 'backer to move inside -- for first-team reps with Foster. Through two practices, the versatile Evans has lived up to the lofty expectations set for him.
“I’ve been impressed with what he’s been able to do so far,” Saban said of Evans after only two spring practice sessions. “He is naturally instinctive at it, so it’s just going to be a matter of him learning the position and him being a linebacker. I don’t think that’s something that will be overly difficult for him to do.”
This post was edited on 3/22/16 at 9:03 am
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:28 am to Alabamya
I'm fine with opinions, but don't you think "educated" guesses (based on what people with real information are saying) are better. I mean, I could state that Ben Davis is going to start at ILB as my opinion until I'm blue in the face, but that doesn't mean it has any more than a 2% chance of actually happening.
The BOL guys, Rodney Orr, Redfish, DrewD, pretty much everyone that I've read that has info inside the program have said for a couple months now that the coaching staff wants to get our best players on the field on D (since we're so loaded at OLB), and want to move Evans to ILB. One of the above posters even said he didn't understand moving his speed away from OLB. Really?!?! It seems like a no-brainer to me. Why use him on 20 percent of snaps at the very most as a backup when you can use him as a starter? SDH is a good leader and fine situational player, but is a bit limited talent-wise compared to Evans. Pruitt has told people that he wants Evans starting at ILB. Like I've said, this is the plan. Any opinions to the contrary are fine, but mean that you think he won't work out at that spot. Maybe he doesn't. I sure hope and expect that he does. Why is this so hard to grasp?
The BOL guys, Rodney Orr, Redfish, DrewD, pretty much everyone that I've read that has info inside the program have said for a couple months now that the coaching staff wants to get our best players on the field on D (since we're so loaded at OLB), and want to move Evans to ILB. One of the above posters even said he didn't understand moving his speed away from OLB. Really?!?! It seems like a no-brainer to me. Why use him on 20 percent of snaps at the very most as a backup when you can use him as a starter? SDH is a good leader and fine situational player, but is a bit limited talent-wise compared to Evans. Pruitt has told people that he wants Evans starting at ILB. Like I've said, this is the plan. Any opinions to the contrary are fine, but mean that you think he won't work out at that spot. Maybe he doesn't. I sure hope and expect that he does. Why is this so hard to grasp?
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:38 am to Bama3714
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Why is this so hard to grasp?
Man, it is not that. The guy you brought this up towards was discussing Ben Davis not SDH. Davis has not stepped foot on the field yet so to rule him out is premature. I am not saying he will start or even play but you and Rodney Orr, Redfish, DrewD,can't say he wont either.Not yet.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 10:42 am to Bama3714
It's not hard to grasp at all and I don't disagree with anything you just said. I responded because you seemed to be asking, "how can anyone possibly think SDH will start next year?" The abridged answer: last year's depth chart. Is that a full proof method? Not even close but I'd wager it's generally as reliable as going by what insiders say.
It just comes off a little brash to be so incredulous that people have a different opinion when we're talking about a competition that is just getting started. I mean it would be one thing if people were saying Adonis Thomas will be the starter, but there is actual justification for thinking SDH will start.
It just comes off a little brash to be so incredulous that people have a different opinion when we're talking about a competition that is just getting started. I mean it would be one thing if people were saying Adonis Thomas will be the starter, but there is actual justification for thinking SDH will start.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 11:07 am to sarc
Sarc, I'll repeat what I said a couple posts ago. It's not that SDH CAN'T start. My original bone was some guy saying Ben Davis wouldn't be able to beat out SDH and Holcombe. It's about the 100th post that I've seen on here where someone mentioned everybody but Evans as potential starters at that position. By this point, with him practicing with the 1s at ILB, one would think someone else might mention him.
And also for the 100th time, I'll mention that I think SDH will have a very good chance to start against the running teams that we play. I think he's a decent player, but don't think he'll be along the lines of the elite guys we've been pumping out at LB into the NFL in recent years. Evans, on the other hand, has as much upside as anybody, IMO.
And also for the 100th time, I'll mention that I think SDH will have a very good chance to start against the running teams that we play. I think he's a decent player, but don't think he'll be along the lines of the elite guys we've been pumping out at LB into the NFL in recent years. Evans, on the other hand, has as much upside as anybody, IMO.
Posted on 3/22/16 at 11:21 am to Bama3714
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It's about the 100th post that I've seen on here where someone mentioned everybody but Evans as potential starters at that position.
It's because he's only been at the position for a couple practices. If it works out, then he'll get mentioned more and more. And everyone knows there's a lot of experimentation in the spring so maybe people just want to see it develop a little more before making any assumption about next year.
I think I've hijacked the thread enough so back to recruiting...
Posted on 3/22/16 at 1:55 pm to Bama3714
The problem is that you get upset when someone gives an opinion that doesn't go in line with you or your mods. What's the point of discussing football if everyone agrees with each other? We've seen this before Ryan Anderson practiced with the ILB guys before too and it was just for depth purposes so none of us really know the outcome of this.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 4:28 am to Tide or Die87
Yes, I'm upset. Furious. Steam is coming out my nose at the mere thought that you would disagree with my opinion. Gotta love the internet. When people disagree with something or offer a different opinion they are "upset".
I have no problem with your opinion on who wins the ILB spot. However, I have maintained and will continue to maintain that it's silly to not include someone that the coaching staff obviously sort of hopes will win the job due to him being a freakish talent.
Now, let's let this horse rest in peace.
I have no problem with your opinion on who wins the ILB spot. However, I have maintained and will continue to maintain that it's silly to not include someone that the coaching staff obviously sort of hopes will win the job due to him being a freakish talent.
Now, let's let this horse rest in peace.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 8:26 am to Bama3714
BOL posted a story regarding our WR targets. They listed these 5:
Jerry Jeudy
Jeff Thomas
Nico Collins
Henry Ruggs
Devonta Smith
Jerry Jeudy
Jeff Thomas
Nico Collins
Henry Ruggs
Devonta Smith
Posted on 3/23/16 at 10:15 am to South Alabama Tide
Keyshawn Johnson, Jr. to Nebraska.
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