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Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:17 pm to HighTide_ATL
Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:17 pm to HighTide_ATL
They want Cincinnati in so bad. They expect UGA to beat bama, allowing an undefeated Cincinnati (honestly, they no real teams in their schedule) to get in the playoff above a 2 loss sec team.
I detest this whole committee. Needs to be 5 power 5 conference winners, plus 3 at large. This is just theater for ratings.
I detest this whole committee. Needs to be 5 power 5 conference winners, plus 3 at large. This is just theater for ratings.
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Posted on 11/16/21 at 8:26 pm to HighTide_ATL
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It’s pretty simple, honestly. Michigan has a better SoS/Resumé. They’ve beaten 2 more FBS teams with a winning record than State, and while their loss is someone ranked in the top 10, State turned around and lost to what is currently an unranked Purdue team.
Michigan St is the top 10 team Michigan that lost to. Then the committee contrasted Michigan winning their next game against MSU losing their next game. But last weekend, Michigan barely beat a tough but derpy PSU team, while MSU thoroughly dominated Maryland. The committee is valuing head-to-head much more for Oregon (despite their SOR & loss to unranked Stanford) than it is for MSU (because of their SOR & loss to Purdue).
This post was edited on 11/19/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 11/16/21 at 11:50 pm to TidalSurge1
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Michigan St is the top 10 team Michigan that lost to.
Understood. But you compare resumes first, then look to head to head for a tie breaker.
Consider this:
Michigan has played 5 FBS teams with a winning record, They went 4-1 with an avg margin of victory of 21.4ppg. They've played no FCS opponents, and their one loss is to a 9-1 P5 team.
Mich St has played 3 FBS teams with a winning record. They went 2-1 with an avg margin of victory of 3.3ppg. They've played 1 FCS opponent, and their one loss is to a 6-4 P5 team.
It's a pretty significant difference.
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Then the committee contrasted Michigan winning their next game with MSU losing their next game. But last weekend, Michigan barely beat a tough but derpy PSU team, while MSU thoroughly dominated Maryland.
Ok? Penn State is likely seen as a better win than Maryland, and I'd have to agree. Michigan was also on the road while Mich St was at home.
This post was edited on 11/16/21 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 11/17/21 at 6:59 am to HighTide_ATL
Just a little food for thought:
Say we beat Georgia in the SEC Championship Game. Yes, I know it's going to be a tough game to win, but just humor me.
We would obviously jump to #1 in the rankings and Georgia would also be selected by the committee.
Let's also assume Oregon and Ohio State win out.
It's certainly possible if Oregon can get by Utah on Saturday. I don't see another potential loss on their schedule.
I don't think Michigan nor Michigam State can hang with the Buckeyes offensively.
So, in this scenario your four playoff teams would be Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State and US.
Seeing that the committee tends to stay away from rematches in the semi-finals we would probably end up with this:
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Georgia
4. Ohio State
That would completely suck for us. Yes, Oregon beat Ohio State earlier this season. Ohio State would boat race Oregon if they played right now.
Basically, we would be in a war with the Buckeyes while Georgia would cruise to the championship game.
Say we beat Georgia in the SEC Championship Game. Yes, I know it's going to be a tough game to win, but just humor me.
We would obviously jump to #1 in the rankings and Georgia would also be selected by the committee.
Let's also assume Oregon and Ohio State win out.
It's certainly possible if Oregon can get by Utah on Saturday. I don't see another potential loss on their schedule.
I don't think Michigan nor Michigam State can hang with the Buckeyes offensively.
So, in this scenario your four playoff teams would be Georgia, Oregon, Ohio State and US.
Seeing that the committee tends to stay away from rematches in the semi-finals we would probably end up with this:
1. Alabama
2. Oregon
3. Georgia
4. Ohio State
That would completely suck for us. Yes, Oregon beat Ohio State earlier this season. Ohio State would boat race Oregon if they played right now.
Basically, we would be in a war with the Buckeyes while Georgia would cruise to the championship game.
Posted on 11/17/21 at 7:13 am to TideSaint
If Ohio State beats #6 Michigan, #7 Michigan State AND probably #15 (or higher) Wisconsin, even if those games are 1 score margins, their resume would likely be enough to push them past Oregon who isn’t even favored to heat Utah, and I’m not convinced they’ll win their CCG
IMO to stay ahead of Ohio State, they’ll have to blast anyone else they play before the playoffs by 2-3 TDs a piece
I think it would be Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon in that order
IMO to stay ahead of Ohio State, they’ll have to blast anyone else they play before the playoffs by 2-3 TDs a piece
I think it would be Bama, Ohio State, Georgia, Oregon in that order
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 7:16 am
Posted on 11/17/21 at 8:13 am to HighTide_ATL
Agreed. Ohio State will jump Oregon if they both win out. In that scenario we’d get Oregon or Cincy in the 4 slot while UGA had to play OSU. Advantage Bama. Just gotta figure out a way to get by them in ATL. Thing that sucks for us is they have two cream puffs to close the season while we have Arky and Auburn. They literally will be prepping for us for three weeks.
This post was edited on 11/17/21 at 8:15 am
Posted on 11/17/21 at 10:19 am to tider04
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Oregon is at Utah (-3) this Sat, and they will likely meet again in the PAC-12 CG. Also, Oklahoma St could win the Big12, finishing 12-1.
Oregon is at Utah (-3) this Sat, and they will likely meet again in the PAC-12 CG. Also, Oklahoma St could win the Big12, finishing 12-1.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 8:14 am
Posted on 11/17/21 at 4:45 pm to tider04
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Thing that sucks for us is they have two cream puffs to close the season while we have Arky and Auburn. They literally will be prepping for us for three weeks.
I actually am pretty worried when we play cupcakes because those are the games you typically lose some players to injury
Posted on 11/17/21 at 5:10 pm to bogeypro
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Needs to be 5 power 5 conference winners
I have never understood this argument. If the P5 champs are all ranked in the top 8 or maybe even 10 yes but just because they are the champs has no value. Utah currently is a 3 loss team in the P12 and ranked 23rd with a great chance to win the championship in the P12. Three other P5s conferences have scenarios that could see low ranked or not currently ranked teams win their P5 conference and yet people want to reward them.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 7:02 am
Posted on 11/17/21 at 6:18 pm to TideWarrior
BTW I saw UGA is currently -3 to beat us in Atlanta with the over at 50.5
Posted on 11/18/21 at 1:34 am to bogeypro
Cincinnati will slide further down as teams like OSU/Michigan/MSU add more ranked wins.
Posted on 11/18/21 at 8:22 am to UhOhOreo
Since only one of Ohio St, Michigan or MSU can finish 12-1, Cincy's #5 ranking probably won't be affected by them. To get in, Cincy needs to finish 13-0 and hope Oregon, Okla St and Wake Forest each lose another game, because at 12-1 they could end up ranked ahead of 13-0 Cincy. Even with a close loss to UGA, Bama might still get in.
This post was edited on 11/18/21 at 1:20 pm
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