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re: CFB Nerds Breakdown of some of the Offensive Issues - TL/DR Bryce missed some stuff
Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:55 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:55 pm to Roll Tide Ravens
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Seems like those could be a way to really utilize Roydell and Sanders, but I guess we aren't trying that.
Apparently Sanders isn't allowed on the field. No clue why. He looked great vs. Miami. His presence would only help this offense.
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 2:55 pm to BasedTide
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Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:05 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I understand the thoughts of this post but for a true Sophomore QB in his first season as a starter, I think BY is playing as good as any QB in the country. He threw for 300 yards with a run game that was non existent. As a freshman he did not get to go through spring practice so I think he's progressing well due to the circumstances. This is also a new OC and completely different offensive personnel.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:21 pm to YStar
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we're being honest those are NFL level reads and throws
No they arent. It's a fricking jailbreak blitz, the QB has to throw vertically and let his receiver make a play, no time for cute routes to develop. It's not an advanced concept. Bryce is smart enough to understand that shite.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:36 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
LINK
Big Ed taking a victory lap
“I just thought our defense whooped their offense’s butt,” Orgeron said Monday.
“Dominated the run,” he said. “Think about this, six yards rushing -- tied for the lowest rushing yards in school history. They’ve had some great football teams that have gone there, and you have to give the credit to our players and to our defensive coaches for holding them to six yards total rushing. I thought that was a phenomenal deal. It shows we are physically tough here at LSU.”
Orgeron went on to explain some of the schematics that went into the success. They went from using a 4-3 base to using a 3-4 front and threw different blitz packages at Alabama.
Nick Saban had referenced LSU using a “zero blitz” in which they brought everyone and left the cornerbacks one-on-one with the receivers. Orgeron said that was the first time in his six years as head coach they showed that look at LSU.
“Now, you’re gambling,” he said. “You’re playing zero coverage, one busted coverage and it’s a touchdown. But yes, we’re going to continue to do it.”
Big Ed taking a victory lap
“I just thought our defense whooped their offense’s butt,” Orgeron said Monday.
“Dominated the run,” he said. “Think about this, six yards rushing -- tied for the lowest rushing yards in school history. They’ve had some great football teams that have gone there, and you have to give the credit to our players and to our defensive coaches for holding them to six yards total rushing. I thought that was a phenomenal deal. It shows we are physically tough here at LSU.”
Orgeron went on to explain some of the schematics that went into the success. They went from using a 4-3 base to using a 3-4 front and threw different blitz packages at Alabama.
Nick Saban had referenced LSU using a “zero blitz” in which they brought everyone and left the cornerbacks one-on-one with the receivers. Orgeron said that was the first time in his six years as head coach they showed that look at LSU.
“Now, you’re gambling,” he said. “You’re playing zero coverage, one busted coverage and it’s a touchdown. But yes, we’re going to continue to do it.”
Posted on 11/8/21 at 3:46 pm to 1BamaRTR
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Ok but how did Brees do it at a high level in the NFL so many years?
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Kyler Murray now who is having a pretty good season.
You think those 2 you mentioned never miss open throws because they didn't see the receiver open over the middle? I'm sure they have! I didn't say that was the only reason Bryce misses some reads and throws, but I'm certain it does have a little to do with it....also running for your life doesn't help either!
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Up until this post I thought you might be Josh. I know they post/read here.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:04 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Also, do we have screen plays? Do those exist in our arsenal? I know we have SWING plays, but do we have SCREENS?
I was thinking the same thing. McElwain would have eaten their lunch.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 4:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Also, do we have screen plays? Do those exist in our arsenal? I know we have SWING plays, but do we have SCREENS?
tried one to a covered up, ineligible receiver. It wasn't great.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:25 pm to Che Boludo
After reading the transcripts from Sabans press conference today, I think he knows its more to do with the coaches and not the players
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:31 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Ed O is going to be talking about that game for years to come.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:34 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Posted on 11/8/21 at 5:41 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
I thought you were talking about John Doe
I don’t think he’s Maze but some people seem to think he is
I don’t think he’s Maze but some people seem to think he is
Posted on 11/8/21 at 8:33 pm to YStar
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When out OC made adjustments in the second quarter running quick hits inside the tackles and stretching the ball sideways to slow that vertical rush down... he forgets these adjustments by halftime and reverts to dropping back so our QB can either produce magic or get tee'd off on.
Well, to be fair, you have to expect some performances like this, especially when a green, first-time OC like ours faces off against a DC with a wealth of experience like theirs.
Oh wait
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:07 pm to TizzyT4theUofA
WR screens work best when the QB has time to sell a deep route and the WR's/QB have been hooking up on deep throws. The CB's soften and bail more quickly. Our deep passing game has not been great and the blitz getting past the OL does not give BY confidence in selling a deep throw then bailing out to the WR screen.
The RB screen is what has to be used to slow the rush and that is not something we do much of any more. I think a 1/2 roll and throw back RB or TE screen might be something BoB should add to his call sheet (in red capital letters).
The RB screen is what has to be used to slow the rush and that is not something we do much of any more. I think a 1/2 roll and throw back RB or TE screen might be something BoB should add to his call sheet (in red capital letters).
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:14 pm to BasedTide
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BasedTide
Man your takes are worth the read
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:19 pm to UASports23
Kinda hard to see all that shite when half the state of Louisiana is bearing down on you with bad intentions.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:41 pm to phil4bama
OL sucked period. That said, clearly there were some throws there that Bryce left on the field. To me, it seems he struggles with the touch passes. Just sort of lofting it up to open guys and letting them run to it. He usually tries to force things with too much velocity which makes most of his long balls inaccurate. He’s been good, but he for sure has some areas to grow in. I’m not sure BoB is the guy to take him to the next level tho.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 9:46 pm to Crede15
quote:Exactly. I skimmed over the photos and explanations, admittedly, but one I read was based on an assumption that I don’t really agree with.
However, it’s still a little iffy. We don’t even know for sure what the route tree was on some of them. And some of the other issues have already been mentioned.
Maybe the WR didn’t break as quickly as he should’ve. Maybe the WR took too long to develop his route. Whatever the case is, in that particular one I read/saw, I don’t see anything wrong with Bryce’s judgment.
Posted on 11/8/21 at 10:48 pm to elposter
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While that is true that Bryce Young is far down the list of problems with the offense, I also think that it is true that eliminating the missed opportunities in the passing game (like those highlighted in the OP) are likely the only chance Alabama has to put up enough points against Georgia (if they play).
Georgia's front seven will be better than Alabama's Oline and Bama's running game by a fair margin and I don't know that much will change between now and then.
Bryce Young and the WRs will absolutely have to capitalize on just about every semi-open opportunity that presents itself against Georgia (again assuming Bama gets to play them).
Agreed. Would take a A+_performance. Gotta take advantage of big plays if you can't run the ball.
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