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Caleb Downs on biggest lessons Saban taught him: "He taught me a lot about commitment..."

Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:53 pm
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/30/24 at 2:53 pm


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But the lessons learned in Tuscaloosa will move with Caleb Downs to Columbus.

“He [Saban] was committed every single day to being his best self,” he said. “Not many people can say that and be truthful with that. He was the same person every single day. Taught me a lot about commitment, being disciplined and consistency. Everything that goes with that and being great. That’s what he embodies.”


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Posted by Dubosed
Gulf Breeze
Member since Nov 2012
7045 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:09 pm to
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RollTide1987



You really have zero self awareness.
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
12222 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:10 pm to
Probably not talking about commitment to a team, but a commitment to taking the steps necessary to be successful in life.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2965 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:12 pm to
Downs said he had over 100 calls the day he hit the portal. Recruiting on steriods.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65077 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:16 pm to
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You really have zero self awareness.



What am I supposed to be self-aware about? I bitch, I moan, and I melt like any other die hard fan does. I also pay into Tide Pride, Yea Alabama, the University of Alabama's National Alumni Association, and have dedicated hours upon hours of my time editing down over 300 Alabama Football games into highlight videos on a channel that boasts nearly 10,000 subscribers.

Yet because I publicly declared in an intoxicated rant that I was done with the 2021 Alabama Crimson Tide football team, that suddenly means I have commitment issues? Whatever.
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4802 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 3:51 pm to
I have to admit you have certainly done what you said. You might be an authority on the history of Alabama football.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65077 posts
Posted on 1/30/24 at 4:11 pm to
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I have to admit you have certainly done what you said.


I have. Because I’m self-aware.
Posted by CrimsonPlanet
Prattville , Al
Member since Sep 2017
275 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:09 am to
Well Bama will survive him leaving but I wish he had more commitment to his team mates.
Posted by CrimsonPlanet
Prattville , Al
Member since Sep 2017
275 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 12:09 am to
Well Bama will survive him leaving but I wish he had more commitment to his team mates.
Posted by Gj4Bama
Roll Tide!
Member since Nov 2006
829 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:28 am to
Huge Freeze’s call started like…

“Caleb, my man! Do you like women?”
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4310 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:00 pm to
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Well Bama will survive him leaving but I wish he had more commitment to his team mates.

How much commitment would you have to your employer and coworkers if someone offered you multiple times your current salary? Probably not much.

Let’s not pretend football isn’t a business for these players. And let’s also not pretend fans wouldn’t support putting a “committed” player on the bench in favor of a mercenary transfer who’s better.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21692 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 4:31 pm to
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Let’s not pretend


I won't pretend if he doesn't pretend he's "committed." They can spare us the bullshite. He went to OSU because he and/or his momma and daddy wanted some immediate cash.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 4:33 pm
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4310 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:13 pm to
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I won't pretend if he doesn't pretend he's "committed."

I agree with what an earlier posted said below.

Saban always talked about players creating value for themselves, not charging down the guns for UA.

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Probably not talking about commitment to a team, but a commitment to taking the steps necessary to be successful in life.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5151 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 7:21 am to
The problem with what you're saying is that transferring to Ohio State is not a step that's going to make him more successful in life. Just the opposite, actually, because their defensive coaching has been horrible in recent years. His development will be worse and of course if you know anything about the Buckeyes culture historically, you know there won't be any effort to teach him anything about character , which he's suggesting is important.

There's a handful of people for whom athletes can do no wrong and must always be protected from mean people on the internet. Besides them, everyone would respect Downs more if he was just honest and spoke on this like Randy Moss once did - "Straight cash, homie."
This post was edited on 2/2/24 at 7:22 am
Posted by Crimson Dreams
Member since Sep 2023
88 posts
Posted on 2/2/24 at 9:49 pm to
"Let’s not pretend football isn’t a business for these players. And let’s also not pretend fans wouldn’t support putting a “committed” player on the bench in favor of a mercenary transfer who’s better." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------It must not be all business for some of the players because some that could have left choose to stay.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14090 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:24 am to
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Well Bama will survive him leaving but I wish he had more commitment to his team mates.


This is professional football now. You're only committed to your teammates while you're on the team.

These guys now play for money and we all have to reconcile with this.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14090 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:29 am to
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The problem with what you're saying is that transferring to Ohio State is not a step that's going to make him more successful in life. Just the opposite, actually, because their defensive coaching has been horrible in recent years. His development will be worse and of course if you know anything about the Buckeyes culture historically, you know there won't be any effort to teach him anything about character , which he's suggesting is important.

There's a handful of people for whom athletes can do no wrong and must always be protected from mean people on the internet. Besides them, everyone would respect Downs more if he was just honest and spoke on this like Randy Moss once did - "Straight cash, homie."



Fans always know what's best for the players, don't they.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 12:31 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14090 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:42 am to
"
quote:

Let’s not pretend football isn’t a business for these players. And let’s also not pretend fans wouldn’t support putting a “committed” player on the bench in favor of a mercenary transfer who’s better." -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------It must not be all business for some of the players because some that could have left choose to stay.



Yes, it's all business. The guys who stayed didn't have better options, or they had a good financial package with Alabama, or maybe the financial packages weren't as good but when combined with potential development, it evened out.

None of these guys are hanging around out of a deep abiding love for Alabama. That's for us, not them.

These guys are professionals now and like all professionals in any field, they're looking out for themselves (as they should). Some will make good decisions, some will make bad decisions but all of these decisions are made with themselves and their families first, just as mine are.

The players that stayed did so because it was best for them. Not the university or the team.
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 1:10 am
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14090 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 12:58 am to
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Probably not talking about commitment to a team, but a commitment to taking the steps necessary to be successful in life.


That's exactly what he's talking about and that's good enough. He's committed to a set of principles, just like every successful professional. And like all professional athletes, he's committed to a team while he's on that team.

Nick Saban for instance was committed to Kent State, then Michigan State, then LSU, then Alabama. But above that, he was committed to a set of principles.

Caleb Downs was committed to Alabama and did a good job. Soon he will be committed to Ohio State and will very likely do the same.

Now I personally don't believe he should have this opportunity, but he does and as long he and every player has it, they would be foolish not to take advantage of it when it benefits them.

Caleb Downs is doing what people who have marketable job skills do. Maybe it's a mistake, maybe it isn't but how could anyone fault him for this?
This post was edited on 2/3/24 at 1:16 am
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
4310 posts
Posted on 2/3/24 at 2:02 am to
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The problem with what you're saying is that transferring to Ohio State is not a step that's going to make him more successful in life.

Right or wrong, it should be his decision to make, and it doesn't really make a frick what you, me, or anyone else thinks about it.

All you folks who want to chain these players to a program so you can have the guise of loyalty are really just selfish. And if you don't like young adults having opportunity, then pull your money and interest and that will do it to some extent. But you all can't do that because the sport and winning are too important to you. Well, these guys have the right to take advantage of your obsessive interest in college football.

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must not be all business for some of the players because some that could have left choose to stay.

Bahahahahaha!

Does everyone in the Real World accept every job offered to them? There aren't a lot of schools with opportunities equal to what can be found at Bama, so it's not a surprise that many are staying. But you give someone (especially an ambitious person, which high level athletes tend to be) an opportunity to significantly better their situation in life - whether it's changing jobs, changing schools, getting a better home or car - they're pretty much always going to take it.

No one is turning down life changing money and opportunity for the sake of a fricking school.
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