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re: Best analysis I've heard yet, and will spoon feed those struggling to understand QB Issues
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:23 pm to Syd
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:23 pm to Syd
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Tell me how we get better ?
Thinking we have to start an off-season camp staffed by everyone here.
THAT should do it…
We’ll each have to dedicate a weeks time, rotating in shifts. Some will have to
work with the O-line, some with the QBs, and so on….
Personally, I’d like to just observe from the tower and jot down notes for our
zoom call meetings every night to go over our progress.
…yeah, shouldn’t take us long to get things back in order
* meanwhile, we have the best coach in college football - maybe he gets everything figured out so we don’t have to take time off work.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:30 pm to MrPigskin
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Thinking we have to start an off-season camp staffed by everyone here.
THAT should do it…
We’ll each have to dedicate a weeks time, rotating in shifts. Some will have to
work with the O-line, some with the QBs, and so on….
Personally, I’d like to just observe from the tower and jot down notes for our
zoom call meetings every night to go over our progress.
…yeah, shouldn’t take us long to get things back in order
I chuckled. But the point is, there is a time when coaching isn't the problem. You can coach a qb to go through his progressions a million reps, but if he gets scared of making a mistake, or he isn't a fricking stud, no coaching can make him one. The NFL and college football is littered with talented guys that can't play with consistency or panic when things don't go as planned. You can't coach moxie or tranquility of thought. Some dudes just have it. Some don't.
But this is only part of Milroe's problem. He has been coached incorrectly, by every coach that has told him he's a QB.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:36 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
The sacks were mostly on the o line and I give Michigans some pass rush some credit, they dominated our o line all night when we tried to pass.
You and a few others obviously didnt like Milroe before this game and are blind to what actually happened if you think all thise sacks were on Milroe, and are seeing things that aren't there to fit your narrative that Milroe is a bad qb when he isnt.
He played very well for his first year starting, he has some areas to improve and I have no doubt he will improve greatly between now and next season, and some you guys will still hate him no matter how well he plays.
You and a few others obviously didnt like Milroe before this game and are blind to what actually happened if you think all thise sacks were on Milroe, and are seeing things that aren't there to fit your narrative that Milroe is a bad qb when he isnt.
He played very well for his first year starting, he has some areas to improve and I have no doubt he will improve greatly between now and next season, and some you guys will still hate him no matter how well he plays.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 3:49 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:38 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Which is exactly what Bill O’Brien allegedly told him. I’m not a BOB fan at all but Milroe calling him out in that press conference was dumb AF. Because as it turns out, O'Brien was correct. Players are making money like professionals now and they will get scrutinized like professionals. The NFL is a cruel business and college football should be the same way.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:50 pm to bamatide07
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Because as it turns out, O'Brien was correct.
What was he correct about?
Posted on 1/8/24 at 3:56 pm to Funky Tide 8
I think he is saying that despite finishing 6th in the Heisman voting, taking us to the CFP in his first year starting, and being the favorite in Vegas to win the Heisman next year, that Bill O Brien was right that Milroe isnt good enough to play QB lmao.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:13 pm to CrimsonFever
I love how much this board absolutely hated BoB and called him every name in the book, but
He's right about this and shame on Milroe!!!
He's right about this and shame on Milroe!!!
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:20 pm to CrimsonFever
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The sacks were mostly on the o line and I give Michigans some pass rush some credit, they dominated our o line all night when we tried to pass.
You and a few others obviously didnt like Milroe before this game and are blind to what actually happened if you think all thise sacks were on Milroe, and are seeing things that aren't there to fit your narrative that Milroe is a bad qb when he isnt.
He played very well for his first year starting, he has some areas to improve and I have no doubt he will improve greatly between now and next season, and some you guys will still hate him no matter how well he plays.
I don't hate Milroe. I don't know him. That's as ridiculous as me saying you love Milroe. Criticism doesn't imply hate. I WANT BAMA to win no matter who the QB is. What I'm not going to do is excuse his poor play vs Michigan and chalk it up to mostly poor o-line play, especially when Milroe struggled mightily all season.
I respect the fact that you think he will improve. I'm not sure how you think this will happen, but I respect it nonetheless.
I pointed out how Milroe could've beaten the pass rush in those plays, and pretty simply. I didn't make anything up to fit any narrative other than the truth.
Milroe looked as bad vs Michigan as he did vs Aggie in 2022.
So you think Michigan's defensive line is great. You think they dominated BAMA's o-line. You've said as much.
Wonder why Michigan felt so confident to bring 2 extra rushers consistently to get to Milroe? It's almost as if Michigan's defensive plan was to dare Milroe to throw quick intermediate passes. They had ZERO hesitancy to rush Milroe, because they figured out Milroe couldn't throw against the rush. BAMA coaches know he can't do this, and that's why they don't call these pass plays.
Can Milroe get better? Perhaps. Most believe he got better throughout the year. I'm not so sure. He looked the same in game 14 as he did in week 2. If you think Kirby runs 2 spies on Milroe in Sept, you've lost your mind. Uga will murder Milroe if he can't throw vs the pass rush better than he did vs Michigan, and uga will embarass BAMA. If that's ok with you, then ok.
Every team will bring extra rushers vs BAMA next season. At least until BAMA has a qb that can throw a slant or a swing pass with consistency. Maybe that will be Milroe. But I wouldn't bet on it.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:25 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
Dude there is no point arguing with that guy. He’s only here to troll and stir the pot. If you say anything negative about Milroe he attacks you. What we view as the objective truth he views as people hating on him. That is fine. Ty Simpson staying means that Milroe is anything but assured of being the starter in 2024.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:38 pm to bamatide07
I don't get it. Is PennSt's o-line better than BAMA's? Maryland? OhioSt? East Carolina? Bowling Green? Because all those teams gave up fewer sacks than BAMA along with EVERY OTHER frickING TEAM Michigan played. Perhaps, and I know this is crazy, but at some point you have to blame the fricking qb, right? Because every team gave up fewer sacks than BAMA and none of them have better athletes on their o-line than ALAfrickINGBAMA. FFS.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:42 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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I don't hate Milroe. I don't know him. That's as ridiculous as me saying you love Milroe. Criticism doesn't imply hate.
You wrote these posts before the season started you haven't liked him even before he played a snap this year.
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What I'm saying is that Milroe isn't as good as Sims was, and somehow he's going to lead us to the playoff?? Not happening.
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You've seen Milroe play, right? If the QB situation is truly a toss-up, BAMA loses 4-5 games in 2023. That is to say, if Milroe starts 12 games for BAMA, the ceiling is 9-3. I'd bet 8-4
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Milroe isn't the guy. He just isn't. He isn't even as good a passer as Blake Sims (a running back), and that's saying A LOT.
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I am saying plainly that Milroe ain't it. Is Simpson? I don't know. I certainly hope so.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:45 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
No doubt and he’s in his third season in college. Hurts was a sophomore when he had his slump. I hope that Simpson continues to progress because there is no doubt that we will need him in 2024.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:48 pm to Funky Tide 8
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What was he correct about?
That if he wanted to play in the nfl he should probably switch positions.
Everyone thinking that you just stick with it and eventually turn into a Jalen Hurts is an insult to Jalen Hurts and what he has achieved. He is a walking miracle of grit, determination, development, and being totally made of the "right stuff."
Even with all Hurts success I still wouldnt want freshman or sophomore Hurts at QB next season. Already seen that movie- it sucked.
I hope milroe comes out next year and screams OMAHA ! Followed by the correct protection and play, and throws receivers open at all levels of the field, tucks and runs on time, and wins the Heisman and the Natty, and goes No.1 in the nfl draft... its just not likely, and youd better be prepared for next season to end very similarly unless we rewrite the entire playbook to fit his strengths, but he says in every interview hes a pocket passer - he literally hasnt even figured out how to step up in the pocket yet
lol. Pocket passer lol
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:51 pm to CrimsonFever
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You wrote these posts before the season started you haven't liked him even before he played a snap this year.
Nothing in that post suggests I hate Milroe. I like him as much as you can like a perfect stranger.
I don't like his play. I didn't before the season. Still don't.
I did think 9-3 was BAMA's ceiling. I was wrong. BAMA won a game they shouldn't have and played teams too closely that they should've blown out. I admit that. But to suggest Milroe is better now than he was in week 2 is intellectually dishonest.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 4:54 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 4:58 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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But to suggest Milroe is better now than he was in week 2 is intellectually dishonest.
90% of what you’re saying about Milroe being the cause of all the sacks and not being a good qb is gaslighting made up BS.
You were wrong about everything you said about him in the preseason and are just as wrong now.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:00 pm to CrimsonFever
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90% of what you’re saying about Milroe being the cause of all the sacks and not being a good qb is gaslighting made up BS.
Ok, Jalen. I didn't know you posted here.
Keep believing that Eastern Carolina has a better line than BAMA. Michigan sacked the ECU QB exactly ZERO times.
Teams that had more passing yards than BAMA did vs Michigan:
Every fricking one of them. I guess they all have better WRs, TEs, RBs, and o-lines than BAMA.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:05 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
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But to suggest Milroe is better now than he was in week 2 is intellectually dishonest.
Dude, you think Milroe has not gotten better since the start of the season? Now the haters are grasping. I’m no Milroe fanboy but he’s not the same player he was in the Texas game.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:07 pm to Syd
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I’m no Milroe fanboy but he’s not the same player he was in the Texas game.
He played about the same vs Texas as he did vs Michigan. No progression. If uga had done what Michigan did on defense instead of using 2 guys to spy BAMA, uga is 3peating tonight.
Milroe couldn't match the passing output of the qbs of ECU or Bowling fricking Green. Iowa threw for more yards than Milroe did. fricking Iowa.
This post was edited on 1/8/24 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:10 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
So how did he play in between those two games? You can also if all day long. If Georgia did this…. If we would have held Michigan on 4th & 2 I’d be in Houston.
Posted on 1/8/24 at 5:16 pm to Gideon Swashbuckler
100% correct. Go back and watch the second half of the SECCG. Georgia brought pressure and it affected us big time. Why they didn’t do it in the first half is beyond me. It cost them.
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