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Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:03 am to biggsc
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Yep. Do we need to change the strength and conditioning program?
In what way? Lower body injuries are 50% of all injuries and with how many injuries a team will sustain every year, we have just gotten unlucky.
If you are saying that our players are not physically performing at their best, the catapult numbers are saying otherwise.
If you mean purely conditioning to get dlineman ready for high snap counts, that runs counter to getting them bulked up with the right muscle to be explosive and powerful.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 10:04 am
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:06 am to Tider95
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In what way? Lower body injuries are 50% of all injuries and with how many injuries a team will sustain every year, we have just gotten unlucky.
If you are saying that our players are not physically performing at their best, the catapult numbers are saying otherwise.
If you mean purely conditioning to get dlineman ready for high snap counts, that runs counter to getting them bulked up with the right muscle to be explosive and powerful.
Conditioning for defensive lineman and linebackers to get them ready for high snap counts during the season
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:13 am to biggsc
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Conditioning for defensive lineman and linebackers to get them ready for high snap counts during the season
I think you are accurately addressing the tension with how Saban likes to run his program. If rotating dline was something he really valued, it would be happening no matter who was dc or dline coach. If he wanted his front 7 highly conditioned for high snap counts at the expense of some weight and muscle that also would be happening. It doesn't appear, from the outside at least,that tension has been addressed.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:17 am to Tider95
Just need to do something to limit or eliminate injuries for the front 7 of the defense
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:21 am to biggsc
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Just need to do something to limit or eliminate injuries for the front 7 of the defense
That's literally impossible. There is nothing you can do to prevent what has happened to us. It's just an awful string of luck. If you flip the Moses injury with that same injury to one of our big 4 wrs, we aren't feeling nearly as snakebitten. It's just been bad luck in one area that also sees the most bodies near their lower thirds.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:33 am to Tider95
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That's literally impossible. There is nothing you can do to prevent what has happened to us. It's just an awful string of luck. If you flip the Moses injury with that same injury to one of our big 4 wrs, we aren't feeling nearly as snakebitten. It's just been bad luck in one area that also sees the most bodies near their lower thirds.
Anything is possible. Just change things up
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:37 am to biggsc
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Anything is possible. Just change things up
We have had the best in the industry come in and look at what we are doing and the answer has been consistently we are doing the right things. Bad luck is bad luck, doing something to do something is foolish.Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:41 am to biggsc
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Conditioning for defensive lineman ... to get them ready for high snap counts during the season
Bulk and muscle to set the point of attach or edge comes at a cost. Muscle is dense and heavy. It burns a lot of energy to sustain it and move it. It is needed to stop the run but often gets in the way when chasing a QB or a run to the edge.
The best option is have the numbers of players ready to go so you can rotate bodies to keep them somewhat fresh.
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Conditioning for ... linebackers to get them ready for high snap counts during the season
A thumper to stop the run needs the muscle/bulk to take on a 320# blocker and stop him cold in the hole. A sideline to sideline LB needs the speed and agility to avoid getting tangled up in the middle. It is rare to find both in the same body. Lee is a thumper and that is something we need badly. Harris has the bulk to thump and the speed/agility to go sideline to sideline but he is learning how to manage angles of attack and avoiding the chaos in the middle. Kaho needs a little more bulk and a little more time in the trenches.
We need 1 more thumper to rotate in and Harris/Kaho need more time rotating on the field. All three of them will continue to improve with live action experience.
Conditioning is not the answer to the concerns in the front 7. We need more bodies getting live action when it matters. Limit the big bodies to +/-45 snaps each. Limit the big runners to +/- 55 snaps each. Limit the gazelles to +/-65 snaps each.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:45 am to Tw1st3d
Which is what we covered before, rotation just hasn't been something Saban prioritizes. 15 was the exception and its pretty clear if he really cared about it, it would be happening.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:48 am to Tw1st3d
When you get tired yours legs lag a little behind your hands. Your agility and ability to avoid and injury is reduced. You are not as light on your feet.
Saban said a few years ago that the direction football is headed will lead to more injuries. Tired players are more likely to get hurt. HE WAS RIGHT and WE ARE PROOF!
Saban said a few years ago that the direction football is headed will lead to more injuries. Tired players are more likely to get hurt. HE WAS RIGHT and WE ARE PROOF!
Posted on 9/25/19 at 10:51 am to Tw1st3d
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Saban said a few years ago that the direction football is headed will lead to more injuries. Tired players are more likely to get hurt. HE WAS RIGHT and WE ARE PROOF!
He hasn't adjusted to it, whether that is because of how he wants to run his team as a whole or he just doesn't specifically view rotation as the answer.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:00 am to Tider95
Saban runs his team, first and foremost, on trust. If he trusts you to do it right, you play. We have lost huge numbers of players who were trusted, a year too early. That is great for recruiting but not great for the class distribution of those ready to be trusted. We are now in a continuous condition of being a young team. If you red shirt we may only get one really good year out of the player. If you red shirt you lose 6 months of trust growth with that player. If you do not red shirt, not enough of the players reach the trust level Saban demands.
It is a conflict between the demand for exceptionalism and athletic excitement. Risk vs reward and Saban hates risk. That demand for exceptionalism is part of why he is so successful and part of what is catching up with him due to the high rate of talent moving on the the NFL a year early.
It is a conflict between the demand for exceptionalism and athletic excitement. Risk vs reward and Saban hates risk. That demand for exceptionalism is part of why he is so successful and part of what is catching up with him due to the high rate of talent moving on the the NFL a year early.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 11:14 am
Posted on 9/25/19 at 11:44 am to TidalSurge1
That is some top tier NS press conference speak.
I would take 2 things away from it honestly:
1. the WR's def are doing that and he is playing dumb
2. Brown is not ready to start and he is setting expectations.
I would take 2 things away from it honestly:
1. the WR's def are doing that and he is playing dumb
2. Brown is not ready to start and he is setting expectations.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 12:22 pm to Tider95
Heard a MS reporter on wjox. He said Ole Ms has sold out to stop the run on every team they have played this year and they will probably try the same thing against Alabama. He wasn't optimistic.
If so, we will see a lot of quick passes. Air Tua.
Starting next week, if not this week, we will start to see a lot of hands on our receivers. Lots of grabbing, tugs, pulls. The Aubs are probably the worst about it. Even the TAMU coach complained about the barns def backs being "handsy".
If so, we will see a lot of quick passes. Air Tua.
Starting next week, if not this week, we will start to see a lot of hands on our receivers. Lots of grabbing, tugs, pulls. The Aubs are probably the worst about it. Even the TAMU coach complained about the barns def backs being "handsy".
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 9/25/19 at 12:29 pm to IB4bama
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Starting next week, if not this week, we will start to see a lot of hands on our receivers. Lots of grabbing, tugs, pulls. The Aubs are probably the worst about it. Even the TAMU coach complained about the barns def backs being "handsy".
That has been the case there for a while. It's not a dumb strategy. Holding is only a 5 yard penalty. Yeah it's a free first down, but the refs are going to miss it more often than not. The payoff is worth the risk.
Posted on 9/25/19 at 12:31 pm to Robot Santa
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That has been the case there for a while. It's not a dumb strategy. Holding is only a 5 yard penalty. Yeah it's a free first down, but the refs are going to miss it more often than not. The payoff is worth the risk.
Cyrus Jones literally became an all SEC and frankly AA level corner in college doing exactly this from play one, if you play dumb physical from the jump you force the refs to either make a call or swallow the whistle for the remainder of the game.
This post was edited on 9/25/19 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 9/25/19 at 1:14 pm to Tider95
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We have had the best in the industry come in and look at what we are doing and the answer has been consistently we are doing the right things. Bad luck is bad luck, doing something to do something is foolish.
We can prevent it
Posted on 9/25/19 at 1:18 pm to Tider95
last year, nobody grabbed, held, tugged bamas wr's more than lsu. it was pathetic! yet, they got away with nearly all of it. i suppose, in the name of parity refs are told to turn a blind eye.
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