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re: Bama Football Tidings
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:53 pm to colbyjacks
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:53 pm to colbyjacks
Too low? Probably with his experience.
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Posted on 4/14/21 at 6:55 am to Carlton
At least 70-75.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:36 am to Carlton
I disagree.
We need first round talent getting as much experience as possible. We just won a national championship because we had way better 'Joes' and coaching then the other team.
Most of those 'Joes' we depended on are going in the first round or second.
Replacing them with lower ability players and trying to depend on experience is great but won't win you a title in today's college football.
We need first round talent getting as much experience as possible. We just won a national championship because we had way better 'Joes' and coaching then the other team.
Most of those 'Joes' we depended on are going in the first round or second.
Replacing them with lower ability players and trying to depend on experience is great but won't win you a title in today's college football.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 8:38 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 8:53 am to YStar
See I get what your saying but I think that is group think that you have to win with 1st rounders at every position. The best adjust with what they have. I think Saban and O'Brien can adjust. O'Brien use to refer to them as slowplosive plays in New England. Even though Welker, Gronk and other WRs weren't the fastest those player would use their elite experience to get open down field. I think Randolph, Williams and Slade have that slowplosiveness. We are going to adjust and be amazing. A guy like JoJo can't match that experience and he probably will need to play slower to fit in with the gradual build up for a slowplosive play.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:02 am to YStar
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I'm just smart and experienced enough to know we better have more options than Metchie and Slade at WR. Hopefully Jojo can be that guy.
The downvotes are probably because you’re a complete douche. And how exactly do you know these freshman are better options? They just have more talent? Boy those juco reps sure made you smart!
Eta I misread that and thought you said we have better and more options than those two. The douche part stands. WR is one of the positions I’m least worried about. There’s enough talent to make plays and of the play calling is worth a shite it will open these guys up. Plus they know the system and can block, which is obviously a huge part of being a wr here
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:13 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:05 am to Carlton
My thoughts are that the offense will center around the running game, tight ends and Metchie early on. Then, the staff can get the young receivers used to the offense and gradually work them in as the season goes on. The defense will be elite and Reichard is the best kicked in the country. We can lean on that until the offense finds it's rhythm.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:11 am to bamatide07
You and I have similar thoughts on how the offense might look. I posted this a few days ago.
With that being said, slowplosive plays will be essential if we have an offense built in this manner.
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I would think things are going to get adjusted based on our current teams strengths and might be looking more like the 2011 Patriots that Bill O'Brien ran. If Latu continues to impress than you have to strong TEs, a 3 headed rushing attack and a primary in receiver Metchie. The run game and RB and TE versitility and speed will help Young a lot. Then the remainder of the WRS whether vets or freshman stake claim to those other positions.
With that being said, slowplosive plays will be essential if we have an offense built in this manner.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:15 am to Carlton
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See I get what your saying but I think that is group think that you have to win with 1st rounders at every position.
First how is it group think when I'm not the majority here?
Secondly, I never said in every position. I'm speaking specifically about the WRs and if I were to extrapolate in this Era of passing and offense I would say we need a high quality OL and QB.
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The best adjust with what they have. I think Saban and O'Brien can adjust
The best also adjust their personnel to match the current system; Saban did that. Hence why we're enjoying the winning.
Saban also referred to this highlighting the need for better 'Joes' (speed) and the fact we lost first rounder talent we need to replace in that specific position.
If it weren't that important we wouldn't be so obsessed with getting the best talent. We would just get what we can and get them experience.
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A guy like JoJo can't match that experience and he probably will need to play slower to fit in with the gradual build up for a slowplosive play.
You don’t even know Jojo and you're trying to say what his limits are.
For all you know he can come in and show out and when I remind you guys to eat crow the downvotes will be massive lol!
Anyways, in the end we just want the same end result; championship.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:19 am to Vidic
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The downvotes are probably because you’re a complete douche. And how exactly do you know these freshman are better options? They just have more talent? Boy those juco reps sure made you smart!
Never played juco and I actually made the highest level while your broke bitter arse can only live these things through other people's kids
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Eta I misread that and thought you said we have better and more options than those two. The douche part stands. WR is one of the positions I’m least worried about. There’s enough talent to make plays and of the play calling is worth a shite it will open these guys up. Plus they know the system and can block, which is obviously a huge part of being a wr here
I'm the douche but you attacked me misreading what I said... seems you're one too.
All I have literally done is co-sign Saban and expand on what he said and I'm getting attacked?
Group think is strong, but I'm unbothered. I will continue to say what it is regardless. Downvote awaaaay
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:20 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:22 am to YStar
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If it weren't that important we wouldn't be so obsessed with getting the best talent. We would just get what we can and get them experience.
Lol what? It’s not a either/or. Talent matters, of course they want to get the best players. But experience also matters a ton. Knowing the entire playbook matters. Being able to block as a wr matters. It’s not just about someone’s speed. Also, why do downvotes bother you so much?
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:23 am to YStar
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but I'm unbothered
Suuuuure
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:27 am to Vidic
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Lol what? It’s not a either/or. Talent matters, of course they want to get the best players. But experience also matters a ton. Knowing the entire playbook matters. Being able to block as a wr matters. It’s not just about someone’s speed. Also, why do downvotes bother you so much?
I'm beginning to doubt your reading and comprehension.
I never said experience doesn’t matter (in fact I said combining experience with talent is what we desire). I also never brought up blocking because that is expected; if you can't do that you probably aren't going to play much for Saban.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 9:33 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:32 am to Vidic
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Suuuuure
Dude you didn't even notice I haven't DV any of these posts lol.
I rarely do, I don’t care to. For me this is sports, just fun discussion unless we are speaking about something real in life.
Maybe this just means more for you
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:34 am to Carlton
New England also used the screen game and short passing game with the running backs a lot. James White was deadly in those plays. Imagining McClellan, Wheaton and Keilan Robinson doing that should make everyone excited. There is more than one way to skin a cat. My hope is that by mid season the offensive line will be healthy and cohesive and the young receivers will be familiar with the routes they have to run and Bryce will be able to distribute effectively.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:35 am to YStar
Nice edit
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:36 am to YStar
Looks like your reading comprehension is as bad as mine
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:38 am to Vidic
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Looks like your reading comprehension is as bad as mine
Now I don't even think you know what comprehension means. I edited it to change sentence structure.
On the other hand you had to correct yourself twice because you’re so mad when you read my posts you misconstrued what I say.
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:41 am to YStar
I believe the majority on this board and in general believe it is best to have first rounders although I could be wrong on that. You tend to create a majority opinion of the board or state a sizable group of people have a certain belief that most people don't express and then run with it.
I never said speed wasn't important but that with our personnel we will use slowplosive plays. I think there is a chance we incorporate speed once the fast guys get it to together, however there is a good chance slowplosive plays are so successful and that either the fast guys will never see the field or they will have to adjust to be more like Rudolph. It is just a difference of opinion.
In regards to JoJo I didn't mention his limits. It is a reality he can't go back in time and get years of college experience, he is a freshman that isn't even on campus yet. Now you are right he might be able to adjust to slowplosiveness immediately but WR have always taken some time to adjust in our offense.
You are oddly obsessed with downvoting. We all get our fair share of it. It isn't worth mentioning so often.
I never said speed wasn't important but that with our personnel we will use slowplosive plays. I think there is a chance we incorporate speed once the fast guys get it to together, however there is a good chance slowplosive plays are so successful and that either the fast guys will never see the field or they will have to adjust to be more like Rudolph. It is just a difference of opinion.
In regards to JoJo I didn't mention his limits. It is a reality he can't go back in time and get years of college experience, he is a freshman that isn't even on campus yet. Now you are right he might be able to adjust to slowplosiveness immediately but WR have always taken some time to adjust in our offense.
You are oddly obsessed with downvoting. We all get our fair share of it. It isn't worth mentioning so often.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/14/21 at 9:58 am to Carlton
Posted on 4/14/21 at 10:07 am to TidalSurge1
I am really excited to see if JAD makes the jump. I may be misremembering but I thought he was ahead of Jobe before his injury. He would tend to get overlooked in conversations about the new corner next to Jobe with all the other guys we have. If he lives up to what he flashed at the beginning we may have Jobe's equal or better on the other side.
This post was edited on 4/14/21 at 10:09 am
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