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Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:35 am to bamatide07
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:35 am to bamatide07
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This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 8:48 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:39 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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Hope we don’t reign him in because the other kids were born before he was.
Same here. I hope future NFL 1st rounder Bryce Young doesn’t fall victim to that too.
Look at the recruiting rankings, look at the skill sets...
Bryce Young is in the Tua Tagovailoa/Justin Fields/Trevor Lawrence tier.
Mac Jones is in the Greg McElroy/John Parker Wilson tier.
Knowing what you know now, do you want Tua Tagovailoa or Greg McElroy starting QB for your favorite team?
Dabo made the tough/correct decision benching Kelly Bryant for the stud Frosh Trevor Lawrence. National Champ.
Saban made the wrong decision starting Hurts over Tua, corrected himself before it was too late. National Champ.
Kirby made the wrong decision starting Jake Fromm over Justin Fields. 0 Natty’s. Fields is at Ohio State ranked #1 with the Buckeyes, & UGA’s QB room is a joke.
You don’t bench phenoms. Let’s not make the same mistake twice.
#BryceYoungQB1
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:47 am to saban n bear
Mac is already better then McElory and JPW ever was.
Mac is on the same tier as AJ and Jalen and probably is the better passer of the 3.
Mac is on the same tier as AJ and Jalen and probably is the better passer of the 3.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:53 am to saban n bear
Mac is so much better than McElroy or JPW, that’s not a fair comparison at all
Posted on 9/20/20 at 8:57 am to remaster916
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Mac is already better then McElory and JPW ever was.
Mac might be better than '09' G-Mac. Nothing to suggest he's a better thrower of the ball than the '10' version. And certainly, nothing to suggest he has JP Wilson's type command of the offense.
JP has to be the most underrated QB of the Saban era. Mostly, I think, because he didn't get to the promised land like so many others. But he got us heading in that direction.
Although he never won a title at Alabama, he led the Tide to their first undefeated regular season of this new era, and his leadership and skills as a passer were a great reason why. He set the record for career passing yards in Alabama football history with 7924 at one time.
Wake me when Mac Jones gets there?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:44 am to TidalSurge1
Well worth reading:
Mac Jones vs. Bryce Young: Two emerging QB legends, another major Alabama decision espn
Mac Jones vs. Bryce Young: Two emerging QB legends, another major Alabama decision espn
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 10:01 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:49 am to alabamabuckeye
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Mac is so much better than McElroy or JPW, that’s not a fair comparison at all
Based off 4 games? Watch the replays on ESPN, Macs arm isn’t that great
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:04 am to saban n bear
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Based off 4 games? Watch the replays on ESPN, Macs arm isn’t that great
He's going to put the game manager back into our offense. It may not be a bad thing given the neglect we've giving our running game and physicality in the last few years. But I doubt we see explosiveness through the air, unless, Young is as advertised. And even then, probably just in packages, at least for a while.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:05 am to bamameister
JPW was a turnover machine. He threw 30 ints at Bama vs 45 TD.
He was awful and would never start at Bama on any Bama team the last decade. JPW is the worst starting QB that has started more then one game in the Saban era. McElory is probably the 2nd worst.
Jones is light years ahead of those two in the passing game.
He was awful and would never start at Bama on any Bama team the last decade. JPW is the worst starting QB that has started more then one game in the Saban era. McElory is probably the 2nd worst.
Jones is light years ahead of those two in the passing game.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:05 am to King Cam
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DE: LaBryan Ray
NT: DJ Dale
DE: Christian Barmore
OLB: Chris Allen
OLB: Ben Davis
ILB: Dylan Moses
ILB: Christian Harris
CB: Patrick Surtain
CB: Josh Jobe
Star: Brian Branch
S: Jordan Battle
S: Daniel Wright
Money: DeMarco Hellams
The painful truth is, ^ this ain’t that similar to the Jonathan Allen, A’Shawn Robinson, Reuben Foster, Landon Collins days. It’s a far cry from that. If you think we’re going to put in some McElroy/JP Wilson game manager type & hope the D dominates, the O doesn’t make mistakes, and win a Natty that way, find a time machine & travel from 2012 to 2020.
The game has changed. It’s explosive offenses, dual threat superstar QBs. That defense listed above can be good, but it’s not legendary, which is what you need with Mcelroys, Wilson’s, and macs.
No one here can seriously believe we are going to match up Mac Jones against Trevor Lawrence or Justin Fields in the playoffs & get that W. Give me a break. Dabo knew he couldn’t beat Tua with Kelly Bryant, he made the switch to Trevor Lawrence. Saban better realize he isn’t beating Fields or Lawrence with Mac.
Throw Bryce to the lions, and by Game 11, he’s a vet, a superstar, & ready to give OSU & Clemson all they can handle.
Bama can go 9-1, 8-2 & make the playoffs with Mac because of their overall recruiting, but, less talented QBs get exposed vs better teams in the playoffs. Mac will get us there, but come up short like Hurts always did. Bryce will get us there & possesses the talent to beat the big boy teams
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:14 am to saban n bear
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The painful truth is, ^ this ain’t that similar to the Jonathan Allen, A’Shawn Robinson, Reuben Foster, Landon Collins days.
Well those guys were getting torched in 2014 against the likes of Ohio State and Auburn. Once A'Shawn, Reuben, Eddie Jackson, Allen, and company got a year's worth of experience under their belt, they became the most dominant defense in CFB. Same with the 2011 team. A lot of those guys started on the 2010 team that struggled due to inexperience. It's not fair to immediately throw this year's group under the bus without seeing them play a single game yet. Do you really think Christian Harris will be the same linebacker as last year?
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:15 am to saban n bear
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The painful truth is, ^ this ain’t that similar to the Jonathan Allen, A’Shawn Robinson, Reuben Foster, Landon Collins days. It’s a far cry from that.
With a DC still trying to find his way that may well happen, especially, if we start playing defense on our heels again. If so, Bryce Young will get a good hard look, sooner than later.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:21 am to bamameister
It’s mind-blowing to me how someone’s birth year has that much weight in these decisions.
Bryce Young was the #2 recruit in the country. He’s a 1st Round pick, & seems to have all the tools NFL QBs need.
Mac Jones was the #329 ranked recruit in the country. He’s average, does nothing extraordinary, won’t be in the NFL, & will have a business job somewhere in 5 years.
Who will be better In December with 10 games of experience? It’s Bryce & it isn’t close. Hurts should have NEVER started over Tua because he’s older, and Mac should NEVER start over Bryce.
Bryce Young was the #2 recruit in the country. He’s a 1st Round pick, & seems to have all the tools NFL QBs need.
Mac Jones was the #329 ranked recruit in the country. He’s average, does nothing extraordinary, won’t be in the NFL, & will have a business job somewhere in 5 years.
Who will be better In December with 10 games of experience? It’s Bryce & it isn’t close. Hurts should have NEVER started over Tua because he’s older, and Mac should NEVER start over Bryce.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:27 am to saban n bear
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Bryce Young was the #2 recruit in the country. He’s a 1st Round pick, & seems to have all the tools NFL QBs need.
He didn’t have a spring and basically has only been practicing with the team since August.
It blows my mind that people value recruiting rankings over what the coaches are seeing daily
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 10:28 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:33 am to saban n bear
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It’s mind-blowing to me how someone’s birth year has that much weight in these decisions.
Mac is not starting just because he’s older. Hurts didn’t start just because he was older either. There’s this thing called experience. More familiarity with the playbook, other players, coaches, and in game experience. Young doesn’t have that at this point more so then Mac does. Young maybe more talented but the difference isn’t large enough to overcome experience at this point.
It’s pretty dumb you’re even using recruiting rankings. Blake Barnett was a 5 star QB. David Cornwall(?) was highly rated too. As was Star Jackson and Phillip Sims. Young will likely be much better then them but don’t use HS recruiting rankings to back up your argument.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:33 am to Cobrasize
STFU, Cobra! Sark and Saban don't know what they're doing!
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 10:34 am
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:34 am to saban n bear
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It’s mind-blowing to me how someone’s birth year has that much weight in these decisions.
It really doesn't anymore. AJ McCarron was the first QB to win a natty as a Sophomore in the BCS era. Imagine that? Now we see a parade of respectable and dangerous QBs leading teams to numerous big game wins with elite teams. Including Tua and Lawrence for the NC as true freshmen.
Today, it's downright respectable. South Carolina and Ole Miss chewed our defenses azz off as TF last season. It's so easy and effective to keep these offensive schemes simple and use speed, speed, speed, and one read looks, to move the ball on any defense. Even back to a few years with AJ, it took a lot more football savvy to get the job down
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:36 am to 1BamaRTR
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Hurts didn’t start just because he was older either.
Jalen Hurts started as a True Freshman. He also won SEC Offensive POY as a True Freshman.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:39 am to bamameister
I never could understand why people take the time to compare Jones/Young to previous QBS? No QBs are the same.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:40 am to bamameister
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Jalen Hurts started as a True Freshman. He also won SEC Offensive POY as a True Freshman.
I was talking about in 2017 with him starting over Tua to begin with.
In 2016, there was a large enough gap between him and Barnett that he ended up taking the reigns. Plus Barnett had barely any experience himself.
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