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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:49 am to
Posted by crimsontater
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:49 am to
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Hmmm, phenom freshman QB can’t beat out the veteran because the kid keeps throwing interceptions in scrimmages. Seems like I’ve heard this story before...


yes, yes i do recall this. however, i also recall it being the only championship either of them won. weird huh
Posted by antibarner
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 7:58 am to
Amazingly and correct me if I am wrong they ran those 99 plays with zero offensive penalties. No holds for sure against that front.

I ain't buying it. They won the game with a pick play and you know they were holding, the zebras forgot they had flags in their pockets.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:41 am to
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No holds for sure against that front.


A Michigan blog did an analysis of like 7 or 8 years worth of holding penalties compared to sack rates for all P-5 programs and found that the rate at which our opponents are flagged for holding is so far outside the norm that it's essentially a statistical impossibility for it to occur naturally. So in effect it means that officials have some sort of unspoken understanding that you don't call holding on Alabama's opponents. Somewhat understandable if we are playing some rent-a-win mid tier G-5 program, but not in the fricking national championship game.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 8:51 am to
Bama is in such great shape, personnel-wise, that speculating about all the what-ifs of a COVID season seems rather fruitless. I'd rather burn my BTUs speculating about what we will be running. I'm definitely getting the vibe that Mac Jones + Sark equals more ground and pound in our so-called "balanced offense." I believe that's what we are going to try to get back to a little more. Protect the defense a little more and get those guys off the field. Longer sustaining drives is the only recipe for that part of the equation. Making defenses not respect but fear our running game is a must if we end up running the ball to set up our passing game.

I've seen the world's greatest thrower these past 2 seasons and I've seen our unique version of the air-raid approach to offensive football. I also watched as our defensive principles tried to keep up and it hasn't always been pretty. Especially on the biggest stage.

With Bryce Young getting ready for his closeup it does make one wonder what is next for this team. It's not that I think that coach Saban could honestly know the answer to all this stuff just yet, or anyone else, I just know that somehow, someway, we've got to get better between what we do on offense and what we give up on defense against the much better teams.
Posted by Commander Data
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:30 am to
With two top 15 picks at WR I just don't see a ground and pound from Sark or Saban. I think we are pass happy again and for good reason. Those quick slants will still be money.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 9:36 am to
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With two top 15 picks at WR I just don't see a ground and pound from Sark or Saban. I think we are pass happy again and for good reason. Those quick slants will still be money.




RPOs as a steady diet, as an offensive identity? With Mac Jones? RPOs will be brought along for the ride, especially as safeties work their way up on the LOS. But Mac was lucky to finish last season with Tua's gameplan.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:25 am to
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Posted by BamaFan107
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 10:55 am to
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With two top 15 picks at WR I just don't see a ground and pound from Sark or Saban. I think we are pass happy again and for good reason. Those quick slants will still be money.


That Auburn game plan was beautiful! If we can get that each game minus the turnovers, then sign me up!! Sark called a great game even in a loss.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 11:15 am to
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That Auburn game plan was beautiful! If we can get that each game minus the turnovers, then sign me up!! Sark called a great game even in a loss.


I don't know how Mac Jones gets all the singular credit he does in the Iron Bowl. The superhuman effort and Heisman performance were turned in by Jaylen Waddle. 98 yard TD return on special teams, Jaylen took passes in traffic and basically put his foot in the ground and cut and slashed and weaved and then turned on the afterburners that few in this football world could have duplicated for 3 more TDs. That was a performance for the ages even by Alabama standards. And that only got us close.

Then the Michigan game happened. Neither Waddle nor anyone else came close to duplicating the Iron Bowl's success. It got hard through the air after the opening TD bomb to Jeudy. Real hard.
Posted by remaster916
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:05 pm to
Mac still threw for around 250 against Michigan, minus that 1st pass.

With the offense did in the Iron Bowl would have been more then enough if it wasn't for the ints. Bama should have won that game by double digits.
Posted by TidalSurge1
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:13 pm to
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Mac still threw for around 250 against Michigan, minus that 1st pass.


Did that somehow remind you of a Tua Tagovailoa offense?

It's been repeated a few times about the Michigan game. The QB for the Wolverines was having some serious brain cramps and seemed incapable of making even routine passing plays. And we needed every one of them.

The point being that most would readily agree that Mac Jones is not the next Tua and thinking we are running that stuff that only he can run and see and feel is asinine.

And that's what we saw in the Citrus Bowl. What he is, is more than capable of leading an offense with as much talent that we have. But only if the talent is called on and schemed well enough to do their thing. I see him more in the Pistol, running some spread, with our backs running downhill and often. I see a little RPOs mixed in to keep them honest and maybe a little more when our freshman gets in the game. Of course, the big question is, what does Sark see?
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:28 pm to
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I don't know how Mac Jones gets all the singular credit he does in the Iron Bowl.


He doesn't. Everyone knows how good Jaylen Waddle was in that game. If anything, he (unfairly) gets singular credit for the loss due to the two pick sixes. Whether you like it or not, Mac Jones was a warrior that night. He stood in the face of a fierce Auburn pass rush and took some vicious hits after throwing the football. Waddle bailed him out numerous times, but it was Mac Jones who remained cool and poised even after throwing those interceptions that led to Auburn touchdowns. He made those mistakes in the most hostile of environments but never seemed to get rattled, no matter what Auburn threw at him. That's the mark of a warrior. If he's able to improve his decision making he will have a solid season in 2020.
Posted by BamaFan107
Madison
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:33 pm to
Well said! Even with the 2 pick sixes, I think the game plan was outstanding. Loved the way Najee was used in the game and Sark called a game for Mac to succeed.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:35 pm to
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He doesn't. Everyone knows how good Jaylen Waddle was in that game. If anything, he (unfairly) gets singular credit for the loss due to the two pick sixes. Whether you like it or not, Mac Jones was a warrior that night. He stood in the face of a fierce Auburn pass rush and took some vicious hits after throwing the football. Waddle bailed him out numerous times, but it was Mac Jones who remained cool and poised even after throwing those interceptions that led to Auburn touchdowns. He made those mistakes in the most hostile of environments but never seemed to get rattled, no matter what Auburn threw at him. That's the mark of a warrior. If he's able to improve his decision making he will have a solid season in 2020.





You haven't heard me say he isn't a "warrior." Nor that he isn't the starter. He's all of that and more. He just isn't running the Tua Tagovailoa express.
Posted by Robot Santa
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:40 pm to
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The point being that most would readily agree that Mac Jones is not the next Tua and thinking we are running that stuff that only he can run and see and feel is asinine.


Are you suggesting that Tua is the only QB that can execute an RPO?

Mac doesn't have the natural gifts that Tua does, but all of y'all acting like he's JPW or McElroy or something are just ignoring what you've seen when he has had a chance to run the full playbook.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:48 pm to
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Are you suggesting that Tua is the only QB that can execute an RPO?



I'm saying that he doesn't have Tua's skillset. Sark and coach Saban allowed, schemed, even put up with, what Tua did best with the RPOs and full progression read offense. And absolutely, no way in the world, are they putting the same offensive responsibility on Mac's shoulders.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:52 pm to
Reportedly, Sark wanted to run less RPOs last season, but Tua had problems making the different reads. Hopefully, we’ll see the offense that Sark was wanting to run.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/7/20 at 12:54 pm to
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He just isn't running the Tua Tagovailoa express.


And he doesn't have to.
Posted by crimsontater
Trenton GA
Member since Dec 2009
4008 posts
Posted on 9/7/20 at 1:00 pm to
i think mac will proly surprise some of the "we want BY9" asap crowd.

regardless of mac tho. the first thing i'd like to see from BY9 is him bring the ball down some. he throws a high ball that can get a wr's ribs destroyed. if you look at his arm angle when he throws, a high ball is almost a certainty. lets get that fixed, then go from there.

until then, heres to the macstar
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