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Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:30 pm to tider04
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:30 pm to tider04
There is no doubt that 22 cutback on his dancing midway this year and he started hitting the so called hole. Every run isn't going to be a homerun in college. I blame the RB coach and Nick for not fixing this shite in year one. 22's big problem is NFL speed and returning isn't going to fix that. 22 is tuff and he can catch very well.
Round 3 player.
Damien Harris #87 3.6 million 866 signing bonus
Round 3 player.
Damien Harris #87 3.6 million 866 signing bonus
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:33 pm to tider04
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The NFL draft advisory board agrees with me. They sent Najee a RETURN TO SCHOOL draft grade. If he had been as dominant as you suggest, he'd be a 1st or 2nd round projection. As it sits, people are saying he might fall to the 4th round.
That has way more to do with his lack of top end speed, the NFL devaluing the RB position, and the depth of this year's RB class than anything that you are arguing.
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Like I said in my 1st post, Najee seemed to "turn it on" and "off" at times during his career. He'd go from looking average one game, to elite the next depending on the situation or who we were playing. Thus, my primary point. I'll repeat it again. I like Najee. He's a great talent, I'd love for him to come back. I just don't think he will because he's been playing for the NFL since HS and now he has a chance to go do that, even though he will likely leave millions on the table by not returning.
Okay, but you also tried to argue that his stats were only good because he was feasting off of the other guys' sloppy seconds, which wasn't the case seeing as how his best games were against the best competition.
Furthermore, every player has "off games" but Najee didn't have any more than any other RB that we've had, and I'd even argue that he had less.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:33 pm to crimsontater
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:41 pm to Funky Tide 8
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That has way more to do with his lack of top end speed, the NFL devaluing the RB position, and the depth of this year's RB class than anything that you are arguing.
He does lack top-end speed, but the NFL's "devaluing" of the position has been greatly exaggerated. In fact, our back-up RB last year went in the 1st round. That's right, our back-up RB. Swift, Taylor and others are likely to go in the 1st round this year. There is money to be had and 1st round grades to be had for RB's. Najee just isn't in the top 6-7 backs in this years class, which is why he'd be wise to heed the NFL's advice, and come back to school.
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Okay, but you also tried to argue that his stats were only good because he was feasting off of the other guys' sloppy seconds, which wasn't the case seeing as how his best games were against the best competition.
No, I argued that his stats were good his first two seasons as a back-up, in large part due to when he played most and who he played against most as Harris and Jacobs got the bulk of the meaningful carries those seasons. I don't disagree that he's a good player. It's almost like you are arguing against points I've never made. He's been a good, not elite, back at Bama. Hope he comes back. Doubt he will for all the reasons I've clearly laid out.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:42 pm to tider04
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Our OL was garbage until the USCe game. That said, there were holes here and there that Najee would miss and try to hit the edge on. Saban even commented about this publicly 2-3 times early in the year.
Expecting a RB to see every single possible crease and running lane is kind of ridiculous though. I agree that he danced a bit too much early in the season, but I believe it had to do with him not trusting the blocking rather than him looking ahead to the NFL. Once the blocking improved he started trusting it more.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:48 pm to Robot Santa
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Expecting a RB to see every single possible crease and running lane is kind of ridiculous though. I agree that he danced a bit too much early in the season, but I believe it had to do with him not trusting the blocking rather than him looking ahead to the NFL. Once the blocking improved he started trusting it more.
Nobody expected him to see every possible crease. But a 230 lb RB ought to be able to put his foot in the ground and fall forward for 2-3 yards regardless more times than not. That's why Saban went out of his way to point out that the RB's weren't doing their jobs well when people were criticizing the OL early in the season. I believe Saban knows what he's talking about, don't you?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:55 pm to tider04
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Nobody expected him to see every possible crease. But a 230 lb RB ought to be able to put his foot in the ground and fall forward for 2-3 yards regardless more times than not.
And had he done that you'd have been bitching about how he doesn't have any vision and questioning why he keeps running into the back of the OL.
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That's why Saban went out of his way to point out that the RB's weren't doing their jobs well when people were criticizing the OL early in the season. I believe Saban knows what he's talking about, don't you?
And? They did exactly that. They started to trust the blocking and ran downhill after the first few games. Your argument was not that Najee struggled early in the year, which would be wrong IMO but not entirely without merit. Your argument was that he was not playing hard early in the season, which is total bullshite.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:59 pm to tider04
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In fact, our back-up RB last year went in the 1st round.
That was obviously an anomaly.
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Swift, Taylor and others are likely to go in the 1st round this year. There is money to be had and 1st round grades to be had for RB's.
Right, as I said , the 2020 draft class is abnormally deep with exceptional talent at the RB position. This isn't the norm.
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No, I argued that his stats were good his first two seasons as a back-up, in large part due to when he played most and who he played against most as Harris and Jacobs got the bulk of the meaningful carries those seasons
So if they were good "in large part" because he was feasting on beaten defenses, then how in the world did he replicate the same numbers as the number one guy, and against the best defenses we faced??
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He's been a good, not elite, back at Bama.
We can agree to disagree.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:48 pm to Robot Santa
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And had he done that you'd have been bitching about how he doesn't have any vision and questioning why he keeps running into the back of the OL.
Wrong. Had he hit his holes and gotten 2-4 yards a pop early when the OL was still figuring things out, we would have been rightly criticising the OL. As it was, Saban himself was critical of the backs as well as the line. Nobody was doing their jobs well, including Najee. Whether it was effort, lack of knowledge, etc--nobody truly knows. I'm assuming that in his 3rd year--he had been taught how to hit a hole. Heck, he was taught that in middle school. But hitting a hole requires alot more effort, toughness and abuse than running to the edge and getting pushed out of bounds for a 1 yard loss.
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Your argument was not that Najee struggled early in the year, which would be wrong IMO but not entirely without merit. Your argument was that he was not playing hard early in the season, which is total bullshite.
Actually my argument was that Najee struggled early in the year and part of that struggle is that he didn't play with a high motor much of his career. Hard to get pumped for Duke and New Mexico State. He'd turn it on when he wanted to, and look like a completely different back. I believe that's a primary reason the NFL is telling him to go back to school. They want to see him play/produce at max effort for a whole season. Just my opinion. I've been wrong once before.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:51 pm to tider04
Want to see Najee play like Derrick Henry. Hit the hole hard then cut and take off
Posted on 1/7/20 at 2:59 pm to biggsc
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Want to see Najee play like Derrick Henry. Hit the hole hard then cut and take off
He played like that 5-6 games in his career, and was a monster when he did. The problem was the other 30 some-odd games when he didn't play like that. That's why the draft board told him to get his butt back in school.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:04 pm to tider04
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He played like that 5-6 games in his career
He played like that basically the entire 2019 season outside of the Duke and South Carolina games (in which he got hit at the line every play and averaged 10 carries per game)
Ole Miss : 9 carries, 71 yards, 7.9 YPA
@ Texas A&M : 20 carries, 114 yards, 5.7 YPA
vs Tennessee : 21 carries, 105 yards, 5.0 YPA
vs Arkansas : 13 carries, 86 yards, 6.6 YPA
vs LSU : 19 carries, 146 yards, 7.7 YPA
@ Miss St : 17 carries, 88 yards, 4.7 YPA
@ Auburn : 27 carries, 146 yards, 5.4 YPA
vs Michigan : 24 carries, 136 yards, 5.7 YPA
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:53 pm to biggsc
He’s just not the home run threat Henry is
Posted on 1/7/20 at 3:59 pm to 1BamaRTR
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He’s just not the home run threat Henry is
Yeah - somebody on this board described him as Derek Henry without that extra gear, and I think that's a pretty accurate description.
I mean, the longest run of his career is 35 yards. That's pretty crazy for a guy with 387 career carries and a 6.14 YPC average.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
What’s funny about Najee is that every time he is about to break one, it is always a shoe string tackle or one man to beat before the open field.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:08 pm to BamaFan107
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What’s funny about Najee is that every time he is about to break one, it is always a shoe string tackle or one man to beat before the open field.
Yea, he just doesn't have a breakaway gear at all. And that's fine, because he's a monster in the box and gets 4-7 yards on the majority of his carries.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:08 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Rule #1....errrbody that starts and plays for Alabama isn't a great football player.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:19 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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More Bama FB sites in 1st post.This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:36 pm to TidalSurge1
Random note on the absurdity of the 2019 season
Anders Carlson went 2-8 on FGs from 40+ yards during October and November leading into the Alabama game.
Anders Carlson went 4-4 on FGs from 40+ yards during the Alabama game.
Anders Carlson went 2-8 on FGs from 40+ yards during October and November leading into the Alabama game.
Anders Carlson went 4-4 on FGs from 40+ yards during the Alabama game.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 4:39 pm to TidalSurge1
Thanks for posting that link . Very classy words from his dad . 
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