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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:20 am to crimsontater
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:20 am to crimsontater
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it keeps k rob off the field another year. which isnt a good thing
If Keilan is good enough then he will play. Najee got on the field when we had Damien and Jacobs. Waddle got on the field when we had Ruggs, Smith, and Jeudy.
I just don't get this line of thinking, being ready to crown the backups. It's been a stereotype of fandom from the dawn of time when discussing the QB position, but it's weird seeing it at positions like RB and WR. Half the board is prepared to watch John Metchie win the Belitnikoff award next year and now we aren't sure if we want Najee back because it means fewer reps for the 190 pound third stringer.
Sorry for ranting
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Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:20 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Agree, was about to post something similar
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:29 am to Riseupfromtherubble
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It's been a stereotype of fandom from the dawn of time when discussing the QB position
I’m fairness Thomas Darrah would have won the Heisman if he got a legit shot. He could throw the football a 1/4 mile.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:44 am to TizzyT4theUofA
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I’m fairness Thomas Darrah would have won the Heisman if he got a legit shot. He could throw the football a 1/4 mile.
Thomas Darrah 4 Heisman and New Uniforms were 2 of my go to BOL trolls back in the glory days
Posted on 1/7/20 at 11:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
you're entitled to your opinion.
but i think if k rob had the same opportunities najee has, he'd destroy him in productivity. don't even try and convince me k rob has equal opportunity at bama. ive watched saban play the 6'2" 230lb back over the speed and quickness back since he's been here.
but i think if k rob had the same opportunities najee has, he'd destroy him in productivity. don't even try and convince me k rob has equal opportunity at bama. ive watched saban play the 6'2" 230lb back over the speed and quickness back since he's been here.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:10 pm to crimsontater
Y’all I know the 2019 season just ended and everyone is plotting our demise but I gotta feeling we are gonna be pretty damn good next year.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:13 pm to crimsontater
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don't even try and convince me k rob has equal opportunity at bama
So in your opinion, what is Saban's motive for leaving the best player on the bench all season?
It sounds to me like you saw a long run in garbage time and deducted that he was a better player.
Again though, what makes you think he didn't have equal opportunity to do the right things in practice as any other player on the team? We've had walk-ons start for top 5 teams, so I'm dying to hear this
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:19 pm to mistaken4193
Pretty good want be good enough in 2020. The defensive side of the ball really has to get better. The return of 32 is huge. The fact 40 returns is Ok but he never played a meaningful down in his career and was the starter due to how bad those behind were and after 13 games it's clear.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:29 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
Najee returning would be huge and he could position himself as the number 1 back in the next draft. That said, he seems like he’s sort of been playing for the NFL his whole college career, and those guys typically go the first chance they get. I expect him to leave, but if he returns that would be massive for our offense.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:31 pm to tider04
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That said, he seems like he’s sort of been playing for the NFL his whole college career, and those guys typically go the first chance they get.
What does this mean?
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:32 pm to JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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The fact 40 returns is Ok but he never played a meaningful down in his career and was the starter due to how bad those behind were and after 13 games it's clear.
Christian Harris will probably be an all-SEC LBer next season.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:41 pm to Funky Tide 8
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What does this mean?
There were reports that he was unhappy and considering a transfer after his 1st and maybe even 2nd year at Bama because he wasn't the starter. He also seems to be a guy that plays at about 70% most of the time, and occasionally turns it up to 100% when he really wants to. Look at how he finished the season vs how he started the season. Heck, look at the last drive against Michigan. Their defense literally couldn't tackle him as he carried dudes down the field almost every snap. It's like he made up his mind he wouldn't be stopped, and he wasn't. Some guys go into college and their primary focus is the NFL--and everything else like getting a degree, winning championship, etc is secondary to that goal. I'm not knocking Najee, seems like a good dude. I like him. Just my impression having followed him the last 3-4 years.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:53 pm to tider04
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He also seems to be a guy that plays at about 70% most of the time, and occasionally turns it up to 100% when he really wants to.
I've never noticed that at all.
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Look at how he finished the season vs how he started the season
Really good to beast mode?
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Heck, look at the last drive against Michigan. Their defense literally couldn't tackle him as he carried dudes down the field almost every snap. It's like he made up his mind he wouldn't be stopped, and he wasn't.
He averaged over 6 ypc his first 2 years at Bama.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 12:58 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:02 pm to Funky Tide 8
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I've never noticed that at all.
Doesn't surprise me. You seem to get personally offended at times when someone on here critiques one of our players.
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Really good to beast mode?
Meh. Agree on the last part, not so much the first.
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He averaged over 6 ypc his first 2 years at Bama.
And? I never said he wasn't good. He's a great talent. Also, coming in primarily late in games once Harris and Jacobs had obliterated defenses doesn't exactly help your argument. Even the announcers during the Citrus Bowl commented that it was frustrating watching Najee run early in the year because a 230 lb back with size and speed should be hitting holes and moving piles, and he simply didn't start doing that until later in the year. They weren't wrong.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:12 pm to tider04
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Doesn't surprise me. You seem to get personally offended at times when someone on here critiques one of our players.
oh yeah bro, I'm SO offended.
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Meh. Agree on the last part, not so much the first.
Well, stats would disagree with you.
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I never said he wasn't good. He's a great talent. Also, coming in primarily late in games once Harris and Jacobs had obliterated defenses doesn't exactly help your argument.
If that were true, then it would definitely hurt my argument, but his best games in his first 2 years were against UGA in the NC game in 2018, and in Death Valley in 2018.
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Even the announcers during the Citrus Bowl commented that it was frustrating watching Najee run early in the year because a 230 lb back with size and speed should be hitting holes and moving piles, and he simply didn't start doing that until later in the year. They weren't wrong.
He averaged close to 7 ypc leading up to the LSU game, and had like one run over 20 yards. Which means that he was EXTREMELY consistent in "hitting holes and moving piles."
I'm not trying to come across as a contrarian, but numbers do not lie, and there seems to be a common narrative, a phenomenon if you will, that our fans push about certain Bama RBs year in and year out, when those RBs do nothing but produce on the field, with numbers to back them up. Its just kind of odd to me.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:18 pm to tider04
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Even the announcers during the Citrus Bowl commented that it was frustrating watching Najee run early in the year because a 230 lb back with size and speed should be hitting holes and moving piles, and he simply didn't start doing that until later in the year. They weren't wrong.
What holes? Our OL didnt really start coming together until about halfway through the season. They were flat out terrible at run blocking the first few games.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:23 pm to Funky Tide 8
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oh yeah bro, I'm SO offended.
Ok, maybe "defensive" is a better word to describe your response on this board anytime a poster critiques a player.
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Well, stats would disagree with you.
The NFL draft advisory board agrees with me. They sent Najee a RETURN TO SCHOOL draft grade. If he had been as dominant as you suggest, he'd be a 1st or 2nd round projection. As it sits, people are saying he might fall to the 4th round.
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If that were true, then it would definitely hurt my argument, but his best games in his first 2 years were against UGA in the NC game in 2018, and in Death Valley in 2018.
Like I said in my 1st post, Najee seemed to "turn it on" and "off" at times during his career. He'd go from looking average one game, to elite the next depending on the situation or who we were playing. Thus, my primary point. I'll repeat it again. I like Najee. He's a great talent, I'd love for him to come back. I just don't think he will because he's been playing for the NFL since HS and now he has a chance to go do that, even though he will likely leave millions on the table by not returning.
This post was edited on 1/7/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:23 pm to tider04
i havent seen practice, have you? if not, then you have no more knowledge of his opportunities, in practice, than i do. but, i can say without a doubt. k rob runs away from those that catch najee. dont get me wrong. i'm not knocking najee. najee is exactly what saban loves. a big strong really good rb. k rob, is more elusive quicker and way faster. which to me, quates to way more productive, given the same carries.
Posted on 1/7/20 at 1:28 pm to Robot Santa
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What holes? Our OL didnt really start coming together until about halfway through the season. They were flat out terrible at run blocking the first few games.
Our OL was garbage until the USCe game. That said, there were holes here and there that Najee would miss and try to hit the edge on. Saban even commented about this publicly 2-3 times early in the year.
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