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re: Anyone following the Davis trial?
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:27 pm to JustGetItRight
Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:27 pm to JustGetItRight
It’s just always an awful idea to take the stand as a defendant. You have a lawyer for a reason and they can argue your case better than you can.
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Posted on 5/10/25 at 12:49 pm to Sandkhan
I think he had to take the stand because the aggressor took the stand and lied.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 1:45 pm to cdur86
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Literally every LSU and AU fan on the SEC rant. You can just follow one of the 5 threads there and they will give you all the information. LSU fans talking shite about our culture is beyond hilarious given that two of their athletes are responsible for multiple deaths.
They don't care about the trial, Miller, or even the murdered girl. This is just a way of retroactively trolling Alabama fans about something that happened two years ago. And it works, because some of you doofuses can't help but hop in those threads and argue with those clowns. Just fricking ignore it.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 4:45 pm to Sandkhan
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It’s just always an awful idea to take the stand as a defendant. You have a lawyer for a reason and they can argue your case better than you can.
Sometimes it’s a good thing. A defendant that comes off as sincere, with a story that matches the evidence, and can hold up under cross examination will do wonders for his case. It screams “I didn’t do it and I’m not scared to face the charge.” Kyle Rittenhouse was an example of one of those.
You don’t have many of those though. In most cases, like this one, you have a defendant who is going to get up there and pretty much admit to the crime or otherwise come off looking terrible.
My curiosity would be how much prep did the defense do with him? I can’t imagine them putting him on the stand knowing he was going to say that. Did they not do much prep? Did he insist on testifying? I imagine with those words came out of his mouth, the defense knew they were done.
Posted on 5/10/25 at 5:02 pm to SECSolomonGrundy
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No way. They will be looking at 20 years and negotiating from there.
He is currently charged with capital murder. Since the state didn’t pursue the death penalty, the only other possible sentence for that charge is life in prison without parole.
His codefendant has just been convicted after an hour of deliberation by the jury.
When it comes to a plea negotiation in this case, the prosecution holds all the cards. If the defense can get a deal for only 20 to serve, they will have done a fantastic job.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 5/10/25 at 5:04 pm to Syd
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If Johnson would have killed Davis and Harris is still alive, would they have charged Harris with murder like they have Miles for giving Johnson the gun?
Just about a guarantee they would have. In cases like these, the person that supplied the gun gets the same charger as a shooter – especially when both the supplier and the shooter were on the scene of the murder.
The easiest way to avoid catching the charge is to cut a plea deal and become a witness. Miles didn’t do that either by choice or because the prosecution didn’t think they needed him.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 5/10/25 at 6:40 pm to JustGetItRight
He needs to see what the plea down is. If it’s 20, roll the dice.
I’ll also be curious if the plea is accomplice or accessory. That’s a big piece of it.
I’ll also be curious if the plea is accomplice or accessory. That’s a big piece of it.
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 5/10/25 at 8:58 pm to CrimsonBoz
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I’ll also be curious if the plea is accomplice or accessory. That’s a big piece of it.
Idk if that matters because it’s a capital Murder conviction. So even Accesory to capital murder is an automatic life sentence in Alabama….i think
This post was edited on 5/10/25 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 5/11/25 at 6:55 am to mistaken4193
If there is a plea, it won’t be for capital murder. It will be for some other offense so that they can give the reduced sentence.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 3:14 pm to JustGetItRight
Well Patch interviewed one of jurors and now it seems obvious the jury was filled with morons. LINK
"You mean the evidence that shows Davis was being hunted? Irrelevant!"
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When asked about the marijuana recovered from the Jeep, the juror said it wouldn't have mattered or changed their opinion on the verdict.
"Who gives a crap?" the juror responded. "Again, was Cedric out there trying to do a drive-by? Probably. But [Davis] approached him. So if he stays behind that building, does it even happen? You can't sneak up behind a car and shoot somebody. You just can't do that. He said he saw the gun that Cedric had but I think if he had actually seen the gun, he probably wouldn't have needed someone to physically pull him away. Most people don't keep coming at somebody all aggressive when they see they have gun, especially if they aren't armed themselve"
"You mean the evidence that shows Davis was being hunted? Irrelevant!"
This post was edited on 5/11/25 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 5/11/25 at 4:03 pm to imjustafatkid
Yes they both were hunting but Davis is the one who comes out and starts shooting. Johnson is a gang banger thug but that doesn’t make it ok for Davis to shoot up the jeep. If Davis wasn’t drunk and bullet proof and left he’d be a free man. Miles is going to get more time too, he puts his hood up to tell Davis where Johnson is in the jeep and gave him the gun.
The jury wasn’t full of morons dude.
The jury wasn’t full of morons dude.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 5:38 pm to Syd
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Yes they both were hunting but Davis is the one who comes out and starts shooting. Johnson is a gang banger thug but that doesn’t make it ok for Davis to shoot up the jeep.
The first shot comes from inside the Jeep. They were absolutely NOT both hunting. Miles and Davis left the altercation and Johnson followed.
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The jury wasn’t full of morons dude.
Nah, that interview with that juror proves otherwise.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 5:45 pm to Syd
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If Davis wasn’t drunk and bullet proof and left he’d be a free man.
This assumes that Johnson and his friends would've stopped hunting/following Davis and Miles.
He didn't leave, go get a stolen car with 3 friends & a shotgun to trail him, and turn off his lights while hitting a u turn to park behind them to let them go.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 5:47 pm to AuburnTider
Yeah it's insane for these people to act like leaving the situation would have ended it. Miles and Davis already tried that once.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 6:30 pm to imjustafatkid
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Miles and Davis already tried that once.
Tried what once? To leave? Davis went back to the jeep and shot it up with Miles right there too.
If they get in Bradley’s car and go home do you think Johnson follows and guns them down or something?
Posted on 5/11/25 at 7:41 pm to imjustafatkid
What is the deal with the shot gun that got fired. The Tuscaloosa detective found evidence of it having been fired. Who fired it and did it hit Davis. When was it fired? The detective gave a word salad response for not entering the waddings into evidence. He also said “it looked like” the first shot came from outside the black car. Looks like? Blurry picture.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:27 pm to IB4bama
What about Mr Johnson giving the detective the wrong passcode to his iPhone. In no real world would Johnson be considered a credible witness. The judge and the detective Culpepper should be relieved of their duties due to this case alone. At the very most this should’ve been voluntary manslaughter with Johnson being charged with the same crime.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:42 pm to Syd
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Tried what once? To leave? Davis went back to the jeep and shot it up with Miles right there too.
They left the initial encounter with the jeep/Johnson. Johnson came back with additional guns/criminals.
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If they get in Bradley’s car and go home do you think Johnson follows and guns them down or something?
Yes, I believe they would've continued to follow them away from the strip.
To be clear - I think Johnson, Davis, and Harris all made terrible choices that night but I don't understand why people are still questioning how far an emotional guy who put his child's mother in danger (and got her killed) would go.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 8:49 pm to Syd
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Tried what once? To leave?
The altercation started in front of the bar. The Bama basketball players, and Davis, all left the scene and deescalated.
Posted on 5/11/25 at 9:17 pm to imjustafatkid
You seem to completely fail to understand the law.
The juror is right. It doesn’t matter what the guy in the Jeep was doing or what his intentions might have been, it’s about what Davis did in that moment.
He hid and then approached the Jeep (shown in the security video, not in dispute) to “get him before he got us” (the defendant’s own testimony).
That makes Davis the initial aggressor at the time of the fatal encounter, takes stand your ground and self defense off the table, and earns him a capital murder conviction.
The juror is right. It doesn’t matter what the guy in the Jeep was doing or what his intentions might have been, it’s about what Davis did in that moment.
He hid and then approached the Jeep (shown in the security video, not in dispute) to “get him before he got us” (the defendant’s own testimony).
That makes Davis the initial aggressor at the time of the fatal encounter, takes stand your ground and self defense off the table, and earns him a capital murder conviction.
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