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re: Anybody else hearing Quinnen and Jalen may stay?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:46 am to bamafan1001
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:46 am to bamafan1001
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All the money in the world cant buy you that last year back of playing CFB.
Money isnt the only thing in the world to everyone. Lets say he tears his ACL...might cost him millions...but he will still make millions.
And he might never play at all.
I admire loyalty and dedication more than just about any other trait, but in the case of someone like Quinnen I would be the first to tell him he HAS to go pro if he gets the draft grade we all anticipate.
Josh Rosen, 10th overall pick, got a fully guaranteed $17.5 million. That's the LEAST he will make playing football. IF he makes it past the rookie contract, it is only up from there.
That's not someone choosing a middle class life doing something they love over a gated community life. That's money that changes a family dynamic for generations. Unless he plays it really, really dumb somewhere around the turn of the 22nd century kids will be sitting in a college classroom not worried about student loans because great grandfather Quinnen gave up his last year of college. You just can't let that opportunity pass.
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Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:46 am to DeeBeepy
nm - misread your comment
This post was edited on 11/29/18 at 8:47 am
Posted on 11/29/18 at 8:52 am to mrbroker
quote:I totally agree about Wilson and Jacobs. I'm not convinced he's got the football I.Q. the pros look for in a MLB. When the pro scouts interview a MLB, they'll sit them down and throw out different on-field scenarios and ask what that guy would call in that situation. It's a high priority to the pros.
Mack and 99 are not ready yet nor will they be first round picks.
Story: Jim Haslett told me that he interviewed Rueben Foster and Foster "scared him to death" with the story about him standing next to his brother when somebody shot and killed him. Then he sat him down and threw out some scenarios and Foster nailed them like a 10 year pro...said he was amazed...said Reuben was 2 different people when it came to regular life then football.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:00 am to coachcrisp
Not a bad year if Jacobs does decide to make the jump. The RB pool is not very good this year.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:01 am to coachcrisp
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Quinnen and Jalen
As a Bama fan I love both of them. As a rational person I would question the decision of either to stay (especially Quinnen).
Posted on 11/29/18 at 9:37 am to JustGetItRight
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I admire loyalty and dedication more than just about any other trait
Not talking about loyalty and dedication. College life is something you cant get back. I loved college live...but even if I decided to go back I wouldnt ever have that back.
For the vast majority of college football players...even ones who grew up in middle class families ONE million dollars is life changing money.
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Quinnen I would be the first to tell him he HAS to go pro if he gets the draft grade we all anticipate.
Yeah if a guy is ready to move on absolutely. If someone theoretically came to me for advice and said "I wanna play in the NFL...but I love college. I like playing cfb, like the college atmosphere, wanna finish my degree, love parties and college girls id tell him to consider staying.
Again, for someone who didnt grow up a millionaire, 1 million vs 10 million isnt that big of a difference. A guy like Quinnen would make well over 1 mil even if he had a bad knee injury...which is rare
Cant buy back that year once you leave. Obviously this doesnt apply to a guy who is fired up about going to play in the NFL and doesnt care for college. By all means, go enter the draft early if this is you.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 10:53 am to Goldtide1
haha kind of an update. Just met my dad on campus where he works...saw a brand new sports car with a temporary tag “BigQ92”
Not saying he couldn’t afford the payments with the stipend...but im thinking QW is definitely NFL bound
Not saying he couldn’t afford the payments with the stipend...but im thinking QW is definitely NFL bound
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:23 am to bamafan1001
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1 million vs 10 million isnt that big of a difference.
$1,000,000 gets you a nice house, a few toys, and a good start on an IRA to use when you retire from your 8 to 5 at age 65.
10,000,000 gets you all that and if invested in nothing more than a simple 3% CD, the remaining 9 mil generates an annual income of 270,000 FOREVER.
The difference, no matter where you grew up, is not big. It is Mt. Cheaha vs Mt. Everest.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:28 am to prevatt33
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I'd wager that Jalen wants to develop his game as much as humanly possible up to his invitation to the NFL combine. Both if those are in the bag if he stays at Bama through next year.
If Jalen thinks he has a snowball's chance at a combine invitation if he remains a backup QB, someone needs to have a frank discussion with him and disabuse him of that notion.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:50 am to bamafan1001
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haha kind of an update. Just met my dad on campus where he works...saw a brand new sports car with a temporary tag “BigQ92”
Not saying he couldn’t afford the payments with the stipend...but im thinking QW is definitely NFL bound
How do the loans against future potential revenue work for college players? Can they get a deferred loan with no payments or is that against NCAA rules?
Posted on 11/29/18 at 11:52 am to prevatt33
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I'd wager that Jalen wants to develop his game as much as humanly possible up to his invitation to the NFL combine. Both if those are in the bag if he stays at Bama through next year.
He has improved as a QB this year, but he NEEDS more playing time if he wants to develop more. He's squeezed all the blood out of this turnip and needs to do the next thing.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:41 pm to CrimsonCoast
back to my friend who coached in college and pro for 40 years. Per him Jalen is not an NFL QB and he needs to work at another position in college next year to show scouts he can be something else, whether it be a RB, a safety, HB, or a WR. He has the skills but an NFL coach wants to see him use them before they take a chance. He would even be a great KR
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:45 pm to CrimsonCoast
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How do the loans against future potential revenue work for college players? Can they get a deferred loan with no payments or is that against NCAA rules?
Always been curious about this
Posted on 11/29/18 at 12:57 pm to JustGetItRight
We aren’t talking 1 vs 10 million. These are just random numbers I threw out. QW would make 10 mil even with a knee injury.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:12 pm to DeeBeepy
It would be virtually impossible for Quinnen to stay back,he is a Top 3-5 pick some have him pegged as the number two.
No way he should turn his back on that. Clemson convinced their DL to come back this year costing them millions
No way he should turn his back on that. Clemson convinced their DL to come back this year costing them millions
Posted on 11/29/18 at 4:57 pm to CrimsonCoast
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He has improved as a QB this year, but he NEEDS more playing time if he wants to develop more. He's squeezed all the blood out of this turnip and needs to do the next thing.
Here's the thing that none of us know: What's more important to Jalen? (a) Being a starter on and team and getting the bulk of the snaps, or (b) developing as much as possible for a possible NFL career as a QB?
If it's B, then his transfer choices are very limited. He would have to go somewhere that runs a pro style passing offense and will let him throw it downfield...not jet sweeps and bubble screens...25+ times a game. He will need to go somewhere where there's a QB coach or OC who can help him to continue to grow as a passer. And he will need to go somewhere that (a) needs a QB, and (b) will be willing to turn their offense over to a project.
If he can't find that kind of place, he may as well stay here and back up Tua one more year.
Going somewhere where the coach plans to feature his running ability does not help him get to NFL.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:06 pm to bamafan1001
Knee injury isn’t the only thing that could happen. In fact it is pretty low on the list of worries. A simple fall in draft stock could cost millions.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 5:54 pm to CrimsonCoast
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How do the loans against future potential revenue work for college players? Can they get a deferred loan with no payments or is that against NCAA rules?
Going from memory but 99.9% certain they are forbidden.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:00 pm to JustGetItRight
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A simple fall in draft stock could cost millions.
Posted on 11/29/18 at 6:14 pm to Goldtide1
I've said all along that Jalen would stay. He's getting plenty of playing time and no matter where he goes he won't have as good an OL, RB, TE, and receivers as he'll have at Bama.
Also, we now have a dedicated QB coach and the impact on Jalen is obvious.
Also, we now have a dedicated QB coach and the impact on Jalen is obvious.
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