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Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:49 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:49 pm to
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Thousands of laptops meant for use by Alabama students as part of distance learning programs this fall are currently being held in customs, according to local officials.

The head of the School Superintendents of Alabama, which represents superintendents of school districts across the state, told AL.com that it wasn't clear why more than 33,000 laptops ordered by some school districts were stuck in customs, though it was apparently related to the Commerce Department's crackdown on imports made with forced labor.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:52 pm to
S Korea and Germany have both released studies over the last several weeks showing that the age group 10-18 has possibly the highest of any transmit. So yes there should be concerns for them bringing it home but children are less likely to contract serious complications from it and most if they do get it may never know.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 7:59 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 8:07 pm to
For those that are looking for current info regarding the virus and children with concerns of returning to school this came out today.

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3 August — Summer-camp outbreak infects more than 200 children Despite measures to prevent the spread of the new coronavirus, at least 250 campers and staff members tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 after attending an overnight camp in the US state of Georgia.

Christine Szablewski at the Georgia Department of Public Health in Atlanta and her colleagues investigated the outbreak, which began two days after the first campers’ arrival on 21 June (C. M. Szablewski et al. Morb. Mortal. Wkly Rep. LINK ; 2020). All campers and staff were required to test negative for the virus fewer than 13 days before arrival, and campers did not mix with those sleeping in other cabins. Campers were not required to wear masks.

The researchers found that nearly 100 staff members — many of them teenagers — tested positive in the two weeks after leaving camp. So did 168 campers, including half of those aged between 6 and 10.


So again there seems to be no medical certainty on how reopening schools will be.

This was a camp in GA

LINK
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 8:40 pm
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:14 pm to
But here's the problem with that system and it's the same one Bama is using. My daughter had to have a negative COVID test within 14 days of move in, just like the campers in Ga. But what happens in the 14 days between the test and move in? Did nobody think this through? I hate to say it but Auburn had the better game plan, and I thought this was how Bama was going to handle it. Auburn contracted with someone to set up at their Coliseum and test the students as they reported to campus with the rapid test. Line up in your cars, get tested, in 20 minutes you're either free to go, or they are doing the longer test to confirm a positive result. That gives you a much better handle on it going into the semester. I doubt even that will keep it out for long, but at least you're starting from a better place. Bama contracted with a mail order test company instead; one that isn't legal in several northeastern states and can't be used by anyone under 18. It's been a real cluster frick. My daughter is still waiting on her mail test even though we leave tomorrow to move in Wed. The folks that have done the mail order said it works well, swab your own nose, mail it off, and results are usually back to UA in 24-48 hours. It's getting the test in your hands that's been the problem.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:21 pm to
Agreed on the system but it stills shows that children are at a very high risk. We have had them isolated for the last 4+ months so no real data was available.

No matter how they tested it will be no different then returning to school this fall. The schools do not have the funding for mass testing everyone. One of the main issues in the stimulus bill Congress is trying to pass. What the camp shows us once it is there children ages 6-18 are very likely to get it. Whether it is severe or not does not bode well with other studies out there that they can transmit it to others and as likely as adults can. Not a good formula for anywhere in this country.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11831 posts
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:37 pm to
I was in Chapel Hill today and the UNC students are all starting to move in and was surprised that everyone I saw walking around outside had mask on. Glad to see the students following guidance after so many stories(which I believe many were not true) came out over the summer about parties and whatnot.
This post was edited on 8/3/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2015
42108 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:08 am to
Jefferson County Schools will be doing remote learning for K-12 for the first nine weeks of the school year. Start date has also been moved to September 1st.

They surveyed parents and of the approximately 25,000 responses, 56% voted for wanting an online learning option for their child/children.
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 10:11 am
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 3:43 pm to
Alabama under 1,000 daily new cases for the first time in a month. Good trend to be on right now.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
62721 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 7:51 pm to
But ,
City of Tuscaloosa votes in favor of new COVID-19 State of Emergency LINK
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 7:18 am to
That looks like a preemptive strike for the return to campus. I've been strongly anti-lockdown throughout this entire thing but there's no place better to spread the Rona than a bar in a college town.

Having said that, if the city is going to force them to close, they should be doing everything to support them. I'd start with refunding business licenses. If the city can't afford to refund them, they can defer them for 2021. They can also give sales tax rebates - that's a deal usually given to new retail where they get to keep part of the sales tax they collect for a period of time after opening. If the bars are losing 30% of their business hours by city mandate, let them keep 30% of the sales tax they collect during the time they are open.
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 7:48 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:02 am to
The subject of tax collection is an interesting and potentially significant story in this pandemic, and it's seemingly not getting a lot of coverage yet.

With unemployment, lack of overall business revenue, and stimulus program distributions, I'm concerned that all levels of government, from municipalities up to the fed, will be woefully lacking in funding over the next few years as this shakes out and the coffers have been raided.

While no one is a fan of paying taxes, I don't think we yet know the full impact that this will have on our economy going forward.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:23 am to
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While no one is a fan of paying taxes, I don't think we yet know the full impact that this will have on our economy going forward.



It's going to be pretty devastating if Congress(mainly the Senate) continues to drag their feet and load the bills with pork when they do act. Insane the republicans attempted to add funding for the new FBI headquarters in their recent bill, and insane that democrats are pushing UBI in theirs.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 10:32 am to
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Insane the republicans attempted to add funding for the new FBI headquarters in their recent bill, and insane that democrats are pushing UBI in theirs

Politics and finger-pointing on both sides have gotten ridiculous, and it's stunning that we can't seem to all come to together for the benefit of our country as a whole, even during a national crisis.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44343 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Politics and finger-pointing on both sides have gotten ridiculous, and it's stunning that we can't seem to all come to together for the benefit of our country as a whole, even during a national crisis.


It's really not that stunning though. This has been building for years. The 24 hour cable news cycle, the proliferation of extremist, echo chamber AM radio type talk shows, podcasts, web streams, etc., and the slow takeover of our daily information feed by social media. All of it has served no purpose besides pushing the average American further and further from the political center. I think I touched on this before in this thread, but the Overton window is now a very small, constantly moving target. Finding any sort of consensus or middle ground on most topics is borderline impossible these days. And that's among the general population, not just our elected officials. Too many issues have become total non-starters for too many people.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 8/5/20 at 12:32 pm to
Social media really sped it all up. Now everyone has a platform. The extreme opinions scream the loudest and make people think they are way more common than they actually are. I read somewhere that 80% of tweets are made by 10% of users. Don’t know how true those numbers are, but the average big time twitter user isn’t the average twitter user much less the average person. But they do have a noticeable influence.

Social media also forced the mainstream news to use more sensationalism because now they’re competing with countless smaller news groups or independent journalists that can all now reach people pretty easily with social media.

Also all the arguing you see on social media (including message boards) doesn’t really help. It’s mostly either circle jerking or two sides vehemently arguing with each other. The later creates more toxicity because 99% of the time they aren’t going to change their minds because some stranger they already dislike told them so. They’re just going to dislike them more. The former creates more tribal mindsets which further fuels hate.

It essentially comes down to everyone having a stage. There’s a lot of good that can come from that but also a ton of bad.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13927 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
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Social media really sped it all up. Now everyone has a platform. The extreme opinions scream the loudest and make people think they are way more common than they actually are. I read somewhere that 80% of tweets are made by 10% of users. Don’t know how true those numbers are, but the average big time twitter user isn’t the average twitter user much less the average person. But they do have a noticeable influence.

Social media also forced the mainstream news to use more sensationalism because now they’re competing with countless smaller news groups or independent journalists that can all now reach people pretty easily with social media.

Also all the arguing you see on social media (including message boards) doesn’t really help. It’s mostly either circle jerking or two sides vehemently arguing with each other. The later creates more toxicity because 99% of the time they aren’t going to change their minds because some stranger they already dislike told them so. They’re just going to dislike them more. The former creates more tribal mindsets which further fuels hate.

It essentially comes down to everyone having a stage. There’s a lot of good that can come from that but also a ton of bad.





The truth is a hard thing to come by. Regardless of the power of social media. What has not escaped this generation, as it has others, is that news, in general, is indeed fake in its nature. If not completely, enough to say that seldom do complete facts get put out into the public domain. Political motives are much more readily seen than the constant whitewashing of the Walter Cronkite era of broadcasting and long before.
Posted by stomp
Bama
Member since Nov 2014
3705 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 1:51 pm to
Alabama's R0 is down to 1.04, lowest since late April.

LINK

Cases going down too. Let's whoop this virus' arse dammit!
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22511 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 2:06 pm to
The Bama tracker site has it listed as 0.93 for two weeks in a row now
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 3:28 pm to
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The truth is a hard thing to come by. Regardless of the power of social media. What has not escaped this generation, as it has others, is that news, in general, is indeed fake in its nature. If not completely, enough to say that seldom do complete facts get put out into the public domain. Political motives are much more readily seen than the constant whitewashing of the Walter Cronkite era of broadcasting and long before.




All due respect, in this day and age if you complain about biased or agenda driven media, that's more a reflection on you. There are a plethora of media outlets out there to pursue if you perceive one to be biased or agenda driven. THere absolutely are ones that are extremely biased on both sides, and even the ones more neutral can sometimes have a slight bias to them. Bias is human nature and there is just no way to completely remove it to satisfy everyone. Someone is going to pick up bias in it.

Gone are the days when the only news you can rely on are the nightly national news and your local newspaper. If you perceive a source to be biased, move on to a different source. Of course the danger in that is you start consuming things that confirm your own bias.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13927 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 4:00 pm to
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Gone are the days when the only news you can rely on are the nightly national news and your local newspaper. If you perceive a source to be biased, move on to a different source. Of course the danger in that is you start consuming things that confirm your own bias.



Right, people just land on what emotionally appeals to their persuasion of politics. Doesn't get anyone any closer to the truth necessarily. What has changed dramatically in politics and with the media's presentation is a genuine spirit of dislike and disdain. These folks really dislike each other professionally and otherwise and the visceral contempt comes through every word they speak.


Could you ever imagine CNN and Fox News keeping a political secret from the public as they did once upon a time with President Franklin Roosevelt and his paralysis?

Stricken with polio at 39 he had to lean on his wife and others during his speech-making stops and was in a wheelchair for the rest of his time. And yet the media, of all political persuasions, were keeping it under wraps. That was the level of professionalism and empathy they were willing to express at the time.


Today, if either side can smell a vote they aren't just stating the obvious but are more than happy to sling as much mud as possible. Real or otherwise.
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