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Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
And you are assuming they are covid beds.
Do you realize for weeks now New York has had fewer cases than Florida, Arizona, and Texas? Sometimes 5 and 6 times fewer. Guess who still has more deaths every day? And guess who waited longer to open up?
Do you realize for weeks now New York has had fewer cases than Florida, Arizona, and Texas? Sometimes 5 and 6 times fewer. Guess who still has more deaths every day? And guess who waited longer to open up?
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 5:36 pm
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:35 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Before Covid, where I live there are times when the hospitals don't have beds available and ER was overflowing for half day waits. Now it is a problem?
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:42 pm to Crimsonians
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And you are assuming they are covid beds.
Arizona says they are COVID beds. Their state government has been pretty non-alamarist about COVID this whole time.
Regardless, I just generally look at hospitalizations more as a better indication of actual seriousness of illness than just positive tests - not really the whole "the hospitals will be overrun" thing. I'm not as sold that that is really as big an issue as others, especially at this point.
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Do you realize for weeks now New York has had fewer cases than Florida, Arizona, and Texas? Sometimes 5 and 6 times fewer. Guess who still has more deaths every day? And guess who waited longer to open up?
Absolutely - which is the hospitalization thing should raise the bar of concern a bit, but not cause a freak out. If deaths don't rise in Arizona/Texas over the next 10-14 days, probably fine. Just have to deal with people getting sick and going to the hospital.
By far the biggest issue is keeping at-risk folks away from everything. Some states have really good breakdowns by age for positive deaths and hospitalization numbers. DeSantis had a really good panel that discussed how most of their positives skewed younger, which is why they hospitalization and death numbers were still really low.
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Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:47 pm to SummerOfGeorge
NC public schools have already issued 3 separate plans for the fall. The 3rd is to prepare for distant learning. Universities are already doing that as well here in the state.
Remember if public schools close down again parents who work will be back at home because lack of child care. Meaning many business will not be able to fully operate.
Remember if public schools close down again parents who work will be back at home because lack of child care. Meaning many business will not be able to fully operate.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:49 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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A week of increasing concern about the spread of coronavirus on North Carolina was capped Friday with a report that the state had hit a record – for the fourth day in a row – in the number of people hospitalized with the virus. That total bounced to 871, up 15 from the day before. It makes six days out of the past seven that the number of hospitalizations reached a new total.
The number of new cases recorded Friday – 1,652 – was the second-greatest daily increase since the outbreak began.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:50 pm to TideWarrior
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NC public schools have already issued 3 separate plans for the fall. The 3rd is to prepare for distant learning. Universities are already doing that as well here in the state.
Remember if public schools close down again parents who work will be back at home because lack of child care. Meaning many business will not be able to fully operate.
Yep - we've had similar in Metro Atlanta.
The idea of having kids at home is just an utter disaster, both for the kids and for the parents (and society and the economy in general). However, if cases keep rising, administrators and politicians are gonna have a really hard time not implementing at least a hybrid version of it.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They are at 85%+ bed capacity across the state.
I mean, that was pretty much the standard occupancy rate across the country before we shut down the hospitals to most patients back in March and bed occupancy rates dropped to nearly the 40% range.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:52 pm to TideWarrior
This has been the other concern for at least those testing positive.
Another concern as it relates to school age children is the syndrome that has caused some deaths.
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Also according to North Carolina's numbers, almost half of all people who have tested positive, 45%, are between 25 and 49. Twenty percent are 24 and under
Another concern as it relates to school age children is the syndrome that has caused some deaths.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 5:53 pm to Evolved Simian
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I mean, that was pretty much the standard occupancy rate across the country before we shut down the hospitals to most patients back in March and bed occupancy rates dropped to nearly the 40% range.
Yea - I only wrote that to show that hospitalizations had been rising there, not that the % beds filled was in and of itself an issue.
As I said earlier, the whole "% of beds occupied" has always been a bit of an overreaction - even during the worst of times in NYC.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:26 pm to BLG
partisan politics aside, or at least as much as reasonably possible, how much have the throngs of folks protesting in close quarters affected this spike of coronavirus?
A little or a lot?
A little or a lot?
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Clemson had 28 members of their organization, 23 players, just test positive for COVID-19.
This was their second round of testing, too, so all of these players got the virus or had it manifest itself while on campus - they didn't bring it back with them.
I feel as though they'll attempt to play the college football season, barring a massive surge in August.
However, more people seem to focus on attendance when what jumps out to me is just how odd the actual season is going to be if it's played.
Unless 75% of the players across the country end up getting antibodies before the season starts, there's going to be huge increase of upsets due to players sitting out. You even wonder if there will be some forfeits due to a roster being severely in the last minute.
Then there will be the chaos of the playoff committee weighing a 10-2 team that only lost 2 games where 15 starters were sitting out.
Unlike the pros may end up being able to do, they're not going to quarantine the team during the school week and you would guess that college campuses are going to be among the places with the highest spread.
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 10:37 pm
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:31 pm to BLG
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partisan politics aside, or at least as much as reasonably possible, how much have the throngs of folks protesting in close quarters affected this spike of coronavirus?
A little or a lot?
I'm sure it did some, but the fact that they were (1) outside and (2) most people did seem to have on masks probably kept it at a lower level.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 6:46 pm to BLG
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partisan politics aside, or at least as much as reasonably possible, how much have the throngs of folks protesting in close quarters affected this spike of coronavirus?
A little or a lot?
So far, it doesn't seem to have had much effect at all but may be early to tell.
I say that based on all the Northeast not really seeing any spike even though the larger cities there had huge protests (and are still having them today) and also most began larger scale re-opening the past 3 weeks as well.
I do think it will eventually have an effect but that it's primarily young people and they're outside and a large percentage of them wearing masks may keep it a bit lower.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:07 pm to wm72
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I feel as though they'll attempt to play the college football season, barring a massive surge in August.
However, more people seem to focus on attendance when what jumps out to me is just how odd the actual season is going to be if it's played.
Unless 75% of the players across the country end up getting antibodies before the season starts, there's going to be huge increase of upsets due to players sitting out. You even wonder if there will be some forfeits due to a roster being severely in the last minute.
Then there will be the chaos of the playoff committee weighing a 10-2 team that only lost 2 games where 15 starters were sitting out.
Unlike the pros may end up being able to do, they're not going to quarantine the team during the school week and you would guess that college campuses are going to be among the places with the highest spread.
I have never thought the season would start on time and definitely did not believe the stadiums would have fans in it. I actually now am hoping ofr a spring season as I do not see how any team will be able to maintain a full roster.
I have even heard post season including playoffs could be possibly suspended this year because the rankings could be skewed if teams are missing key players or some programs opt to have fall sports.
It will definitely be interesting if what we really would like to see varies from what will actually happen.
Posted on 6/22/20 at 4:15 pm to TideWarrior
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I have never thought the season would start on time and definitely did not believe the stadiums would have fans in it. I actually now am hoping ofr a spring season as I do not see how any team will be able to maintain a full roster.
We are what several weeks out from fall camp and two months from starting the season.
I really don't see how they can pull it off
Posted on 6/22/20 at 6:31 pm to 14&Counting
Posted on 6/23/20 at 8:30 am to phil4bama
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Italian infectious disease expert claims Corona is weakening, could disappear on it's own.
I didn't read this particular article, but I did read a theory on something similar on its weakening a few weeks ago. This person didn't claim it could disappear on its own, but theorized that after the initial community wave, the lingering virus is weakened and not as dangerous as the initial wave. She used data from Italy, NYC, and the UK to support her theory.
He closing was a bit more ominous though as she predicted it would likely regain some strength in the fall when flu/cold season ramps up.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 8:36 am to The Spleen
In Florida for the week and it’s like COVID isn’t even a thing.
I would honestly say I’ve seen less than 1% of people wearing a mask.
I would honestly say I’ve seen less than 1% of people wearing a mask.
Posted on 6/23/20 at 9:14 am to bbeck
Yeah, that's a huge problem. People think since they are on vacation, they are on vacation from pandemic precautions too. My daughters work on 30A near Rosemary/Seaside/Seacrest and that's about the right percentage of mask wearing. Most of the workers are masked, the visitors? Hah!
This post was edited on 6/23/20 at 9:15 am
Posted on 6/23/20 at 10:18 am to bbeck
I'm not going to wear a mask.
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