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Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 10:50 pm to
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Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:50 pm to
Might be the first time Victoryland has ever been considered “clean.”
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:08 am to
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Posted by stomp
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:20 am to
How much of this spike is concentrated in industrial workplaces?

Marshall County had a pretty ugly spike in April caused by a chicken plant that local media caught wind of. Employees said safety measures weren't being adhered to. Once the plant got caught with their pants down, Marshall County's new cases died down.
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Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:04 am to
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How much of this spike is concentrated in industrial workplaces?



I haven't seen any analysis on where the positive tests and hospitalizations are coming from. My very uneducated guess is they are a result of the relaxation of the stay at home orders, and are not concentrated in any one workplace or location. Though I'd imagine nursing homes are still a problem area.

If my guess is right, I fear we're going to see an even bigger spike in 2-3 weeks given all the activity I witnessed over Memorial Day weekend.
Posted by JustGetItRight
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:28 am to
I think it's going to be a combination of a few workplace cases, more people being out and about, and more tests being administered. There MAY be something going on at the Hyundai plant. My brother in law works there, has the symptoms, and got tested yesterday. He says several coworkers have been out but he doesn't know if they were positive or not.

Monday was the first time since this started that I saw rooms in a regular (not a COVID special use area) Montgomery ER marked up with infectious disease warnings on the doors. Both Baptist South and Jackson still had plenty of open beds when we brought patients in, but they did have Covid cases in a place where I hadn't encountered them. I don't know if that was because of spillover or simply that they're more confident in handling cases now but it was interesting.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:38 am to
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I think it's going to be a combination of a few workplace cases, more people being out and about, and more tests being administered



Agree on the first two, but tests administered has been relatively flat for the past few weeks so not sure that is having an impact on the increase in confirmed cases.

The 7 day average for percentage of positive test results is currently around 10%. It was at 3% on May 1.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:00 am to
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COVID-19: CDC warns that current antibody tests may be inaccurate
New guidance from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention suggests that in areas where the prevalence of COVID-19 is low, “less than half of those testing positive will truly have antibodies.” The CDC also says that antibodies are not accurate enough to use to make important policy decisions.
Posted by remaster916
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:25 am to
There is an outbreak at the Wayne Farms plant in Bullock County. Almost a 100 new cases since Friday in that county.
Posted by wm72
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:34 am to
Sure there are cases that are just spread through the community at large but stands to reason that the ones of those infecting many more people are likely when those people go to work.

The one factory I know about in Alabama has had cases since April but even through a lot of measures to stop it has not yet been able to do so.

Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:03 am to
CDC also



Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:07 pm to
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There is an outbreak at the Wayne Farms plant in Bullock County. Almost a 100 new cases since Friday in that county.


There must be a handful of micro-outbreaks like this one driving the statewide case count up, because the last couple days we've added a ton of cases relative to the norm. Difficult to pinpoint where exactly based on the dashboard data, but Bullock, Butler, Elmore, Montgomery, Morgan, Tuscaloosa, Walker, & Winston counties have seen cases explode in the past 14 days.

The thing is, hospitalization rates have remained relatively flat since mid April, so I suspect the outbreaks are workplace related like the one you referenced, as the working population is far less likely to have serious complications than, say, a senior care facility.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:17 pm to
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hospitalization rates



They should also list current hospitalizations as opposed to total hospitalizations from when this started.

Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:22 pm to
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They should also list current hospitalizations as opposed to total hospitalizations from when this started.


They do: https://covid19.alabama.gov/

Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:23 pm to
There is a lot of talk right now about Alabama being in bad shape right now. What's the truth?

Case rate has risen, but as you said, hospitalization rates have remained relatively flat?

Are we looking at a bleak next couple of weeks, and should we start really worrying as a state?

The worst part about this whole thing is the miss-information. We had the mayor of our capitol come out and say that they were out of ICU beds, with national media parroting him on it, followed by multiple Montgomery doctors saying that that was not the case.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:28 pm to


I guess I was more referring to their flyer they post everywhere which is what I see floating around. Also seems like their numbers of cases recoveries and deaths do not all add up but admittedly I have not gone and tried to add them up myself.

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Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:34 pm to
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I guess I was more referring to their flyer they post everywhere which is what I see floating around. Also seems like their numbers of cases recoveries and deaths do not all add up but admittedly I have not gone and tried to add them up myself.

Their "recoveries" figure is updated weekly and is very rudimentary. As I understand it they take every positive case older than 14 days with no hospitalization (or 32 days if hospitalized or if hospitalization is unknown), subtract deaths, and boom. You should be able to get close to that figure with the following: (current cumulative cases - current cumulative deaths - cases in the last 14 days - average hospitalizations from 32 days prior).
Posted by TideCPA
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 12:38 pm to
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There is a lot of talk right now about Alabama being in bad shape right now. What's the truth?

Case rate has risen, but as you said, hospitalization rates have remained relatively flat?

Are we looking at a bleak next couple of weeks, and should we start really worrying as a state?

My theory is workplace community spread, which is why the spikes are very localized. May be a result of affected businesses testing all of their employees, which would capture mild or asymptomatic cases. And since the working population is generally low risk, it would explain why there are no corresponding spikes in hospitalizations.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 1:15 pm to
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There is a lot of talk right now about Alabama being in bad shape right now. What's the truth?

Case rate has risen, but as you said, hospitalization rates have remained relatively flat?

Are we looking at a bleak next couple of weeks, and should we start really worrying as a state?



I don't think the numbers/trends over the past week are encouraging. While the state's hospitalization rate has remained flat, Tuscaloosa's doubled in one week. That may end up being an anomaly, but it's something to keep an eye on. And Montgomery's ICU's have at least been close to capacity for a week now.

Are we in bad shape? Maybe comparatively to other states, but I don't think the situation is dire statewide. But there are some concerning trends to keep an eye on.
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