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Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:55 am to Cobrasize
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:55 am to Cobrasize
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Looting and rioting certainly isn’t making things better, either
And I haven't seen a single poster in this thread, on this board, or on any board on this entire site celebrating those things, or even defending them.
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Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:57 am to Fells
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Isn't inciting nation-wide rioting and anarchy a serious treasonous crime? Yes, it certainly is. So, covertly arrest them and dump them at the north pole from an airplane at very high altitude. They'll crystalize and then shatter. Or ball & chain them and dump them into the open ocean or a volcano full of fiery molten lava. Game over. I'm serious. And that's all I have to say about it.
I don’t at all agree with us even though I despise the rioters and looters. But saying you’re a Marxist is dumb. Marxism always results in a violent revolution in which everyone who disagrees with the Marxists are killed or imprisoned. So fairly similar to what was said above except with less details.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:04 am to Cobrasize
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Looting and rioting certainly isn’t making things better, either
That is not the argument being made.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:05 am to Fells
When supporting the left you may want to start with Bill Clinton before jumping all over the MAGA right people you are condemning on this board. Unless in your left circles they dare not speak of rendition.
Egyptians are great at torture techniques.
I am sorry who are defending here?
This has been the situation here NC since the protest have started and around the country. Sorry please explain to me how young white people, mostly between the ages of 18-25, fit your narrative of "a very long history of being viciously oppressed"?
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Extraordinary rendition, also called irregular rendition or forced rendition, is the government-sponsored abduction and extrajudicial transfer of a person from one country to another with the purpose of circumventing the former country's laws on interrogation, detention and torture.
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During the administration of U.S. Pres Bill Clinton, the practice of extraordinary rendition was first utilized via a Presidential Executive Order.
Egyptians are great at torture techniques.
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He'd see a bunch of poor people, many of which have a very long history of being viciously oppressed,
I am sorry who are defending here?
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Mayor of Raleigh Mary-Ann Baldwin has continued to say that the protesters who have caused destruction are mostly white and do not care about peace. She said that the goal of tonight's protest was "simply to cause chaos."
This has been the situation here NC since the protest have started and around the country. Sorry please explain to me how young white people, mostly between the ages of 18-25, fit your narrative of "a very long history of being viciously oppressed"?
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:07 am to 1BamaRTR
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But saying you’re a Marxist is dumb.
That is fine. We can both think that each other's perspectives are dumb.
It's when people start advocating mass murder over it and are supported by others that shite becomes an issue.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:12 am to Fells
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It's when people start advocating mass murder over it and are supported by others that shite becomes an issue.
I do not think anyone actually wants mass murder to occur but I do not see the left calling out all the protestors or crimes being committed either. And before someone says Trump this or that, I could care less about him as well, because the left in the current climate is no better and are just as equally to be blamed for our current social climate we are in.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:13 am to TideWarrior
Yeah the majority of these rioters are young white people. Some of them come from well off families as well. I think a lot of them just want to cause havoc or at least be a part of something crazy
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:19 am to TideWarrior
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I do not see the left calling out all the protestors or crimes being committed either.
Protesting is not a crime, so why would they call that out? Protesting is a basic American virtue and has been ingrained in our culture since our founding, and is protected by the Constitution.
And when you make a blanket statement about the left, your point gets ambiguous. The presidential candidate and the vice presidential candidate for the Democratic party have both condemned the violence and looting. Are they not the left? Multiple elected leaders of the Democratic party have also condemned those things. Who specifically on "the left" are you looking to to speak out against them?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:22 am to TideWarrior
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because the left in the current climate is no better and are just as equally to be blamed for our current social climate we are in.
They often try to say “Trump created the division”. That’s dumb for a number of reasons
1. The division in this country existed well before he became president.
2. It’s another example of people far overestimating the power and influence of the POTUS. It’s such a simplistic view of the world.
3. It’s putting less focus on actual issues and instead just playing the blame game
4. It’s hypocritical because both “sides” (really the fringes) hate each other guts. It’s like kids trying to argue who started the fight but both actively take part in it to put down the other side.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:36 am to TideWarrior
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Bill Clinton
I am not sure how anything Bill Clinton ever did is relevant too my post. Yes, the US has a long history of getting around laws in order to torture people more brutally. I think that is awful, as is Bill Clinton. Has nothing to do with me calling out abhorrent that was said and supported by this board.
Seems to me like you are rationalizing your support that I should be murdered based off some other fricked up shite that our government does.
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This has been the situation here NC since the protest have started and around the country. Sorry please explain to me how young white people, mostly between the ages of 18-25, fit your narrative of "a very long history of being viciously oppressed"?
The protests around the country have been incredibly diverse, and iis led mostly by POC. Dismissing that is disingenuous at best but it still doesn't change anything. If were to change it to:
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And for all the religious posts on this board, is that what Jesus would want? He'd see a bunch of poor people, protesting against perceived injustices against a community that has a very long history of being viciously oppressed, blocking roads, smashing windows, fliping cop cars, even if he did not agree with them, and think "Yeah, we should torture them to death"?
The point stands just the same.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:41 am to TideWarrior
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I do not think anyone actually wants mass murder to occur
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Isn't inciting nation-wide rioting and anarchy a serious treasonous crime? Yes, it certainly is.
So, covertly arrest them and dump them at the north pole from an airplane at very high altitude. They'll crystalize and then shatter. Or ball & chain them and dump them into the open ocean or a volcano full of fiery molten lava. Game over.
I'm serious. And that's all I have to say about it.
TidalSurge does and at least 6 other people here.
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but I do not see the left calling out all the protestors or crimes being committed either.
Not relevant to anything. My post is about the behavior of this board.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 11:46 am
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:48 am to The Spleen
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And when you make a blanket statement about the left, your point gets ambiguous.
And thx for making my point. Pot meet kettle. Far to many times I see the same from the left in regards to blanket statements about the right. It goes both ways but some like yourself seem to be blind by it as long as it targets the side you oppose.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:52 am to The Spleen
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Protesting is a basic American virtue and has been ingrained in our culture since our founding, and is protected by the Constitution.
Do not make a blanket statement that is untrue.
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the right of the people peaceably to assemble
Where does that say the right to vandalize, destroy private property, or to kill police officers?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:07 pm to TideWarrior
I'll be the first to admit I am sometimes guilty of making blanket statements about large groups, though I try not to. I'm far from perfect. And if challenged on it when I do make blanket statements, I'd be willing to correct myself and address the point more specifically.
So, who on the left are you looking to to condemn the rioting and looting?
So, who on the left are you looking to to condemn the rioting and looting?
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:11 pm to The Spleen
Probably the ones on the left actually doing the rioting and looting 
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:16 pm to The Spleen
Was is not Pelosi who sent out a letter to her colleagues in Congress to be careful and refrain from getting involved with BLM and the protests. Not supporting nor condoning it.
The few you mentioned of course they are going to call it out. Do I believe their sincerity? Maybe but since it is a political move at best for their political career with hopes of getting into the White House currently I value their opinion less. Sorry I do not trust any politician at this point and yet to see any of them with my best interest or that of anyone else.
The few you mentioned of course they are going to call it out. Do I believe their sincerity? Maybe but since it is a political move at best for their political career with hopes of getting into the White House currently I value their opinion less. Sorry I do not trust any politician at this point and yet to see any of them with my best interest or that of anyone else.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:18 pm to Fells
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Seems to me like you are rationalizing your support that I should be murdered based off some other fricked up shite that our government does.
Seems like you are rationalizing your narrative and now have lumped me into the conspiracy you have created. I never said I agreed, supported, or did I up vote the post. For the record I never saw it until you mentioned it. But a perfect example of why our country is so messed up currently because people love to point fingers and make assumptions.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:23 pm to TideWarrior
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Do not make a blanket statement that is untrue.
I'm not. I just don't intentionally blur the lines between peaceful protests and the rioting and looting that have happened.
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:23 pm to Fells
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And for all the religious posts on this board, is that what Jesus would want? He'd see a bunch of poor people, protesting against perceived injustices against a community that has a very long history of being viciously oppressed, blocking roads, smashing windows, fliping cop cars, even if he did not agree with them, and think "Yeah, we should torture them to death"?
Don't get me started on religion as I have seen more hate come from it than any other group out there. Including Christians killing Christians.
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The point stands just the same.
But since you threw it out there it seems to differ with Matthew 5:39. Your post seems to infer Jesus would support those acts of violence.
This post was edited on 9/28/20 at 12:30 pm
Posted on 9/28/20 at 12:28 pm to The Spleen
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I'm not. I just don't intentionally blur the lines between peaceful protests and the rioting and looting that have happened.
I have no issue with peaceful protest. The issue I see is the majority of what has been reported on has not been and turns ugly fast.
My issue is though to be honest is with the left on the protest and current culture. You will not convince people systematic change is necessary to end violence by acting in the same manner for which you are protesting against. Do I agree we need change yes and we can look at history to agree or argue for how long this has been needed, but it will not be resolved in the manner the left is engaging in.
Drawing a line to support one does not condone the practice of the other when both are so intertwined currently.
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