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Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:25 am to
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:25 am to
The TDS is strong with him. You have to hand it to the Far Left. They are masters at programming their followers.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22529 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:28 am to
Spleen isn’t far left. Is he as middle of the road like he acts to like? Also no. But go to Reddit or twitter if you want to see some seriously far left people.
Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:37 am to
You said the key word. Acts

I look at who’s running that party now. I don’t see many in the middle Dems.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:17 pm to
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EXCLUSIVE: California Man Finds THOUSANDS of What Appear to be Unopened Ballots in Garbage Dumpster — Workers Quickly Try to Cover Them Up — We are Working to Verify

LINK
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Is he as middle of the road like he acts to like?


I don't act any kind of way. I am who I am, and I post my beliefs and convictions and don't really care what label you guys put on it.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 12:45 pm to
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California Man Finds THOUSANDS of What Appear to be Unopened Ballots in Garbage Dumpster — Workers Quickly Try to Cover Them Up


Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22529 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 1:13 pm to
Yeah ok
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:04 pm to
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“Republican Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced charges Thursday against four people, including a county commissioner, for allegedly carrying out a mail ballot fraud scheme in the 2018 Democratic primary.

Gregg County Commissioner Shannon Brown and three others “targeted young, able-bodied voters to cast ballots by mail by fraudulently claiming the voters were ‘disabled,’ in most cases without the voters’ knowledge or consent,” as part of a vote harvesting scheme meant to swing the primary to Brown, according to a press release from Paxton’s office.

The state filed a total of 123 felony charges against the four defendants, including organized election fraud, illegal voting, fraudulent use of an application for a mail-in ballot and election fraud, according to the indictments.“


Link to the 123 unsubstantiated indictments
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:09 pm to
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“The Lieutienent Governor of North Carolina, Daniel Forest, is reported to have sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General William Barr requesting that the Department of Justice investigate the “collusive attack on the integrity of North Carolina’s elections by the North Carolina State Board of Elections and the office of North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein.”

Forest sent the letter yesterday, 24 September. It further notes that “liberal groups from Washington, D.C. have swarmed into North Carolina to file lawsuit after lawsuit against North Carolina, seeking to change, by judicial and executive fiat, laws that were constitutionally passed by our General Assembly.”

Forest also states that “this week, in the case of N.C. Alliance for Retired Americans, et al. v. N.C. State Board of Elections, et al. the Democratic Attorney General and the Democratic-controlled Board of Elections entered into a collusive agreement with the Democratic plaintiffs to enact, without the consent of the legislature, wholesale changes to the absentee ballot laws of North Carolina.”

“ Forest asks that the DOJ review these actions to determine whether any federal laws may have been violated, as these actions will no doubt impact the Presidential, Senatorial, and Congressional elections in North Carolina. He further asks that the DOJ review whether this election interference necessitates federal intervention under the Guarantee Clause of Article IV, Section IV of the U.S Constitution.”



For people claiming they aren't trying to steal this election they sure are making it seem otherwise
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:48 pm to
So I just read a few articles and pieced together some things on the Luzerne, PA ballot situation, and I think I have a reasonable theory on what happened. I'm open to discuss it, or you guys can just call me names some more. Doesn't bother me either way.

Quick background. PA has had a law on the books for years that naked ballots are tossed out. Many other states have similar laws when it comes to absentee ballots. Naked ballots are ballots that are NOT placed in the secrecy envelope included with the ballot mailed to absentee voters. Alabama has a similar law if anyone here has ever voted absentee. The theory behind it is it keeps the ballot from any info that could identify that ballot to a voter(ie. return address) Democratic lawmakers in PA recently asked the state supreme court to clarify the law so that naked ballots could be counted in this year's election. The Trump campaign actually filed a brief in support of the law. The state supreme court rejected their request to review it, so the naked ballot law remained in place.

In the meantime there was also a legal challenge on a Green Party candidate being on the ballot, but absentee applications were stacking up. The election office sent blank ballots to military and overseas voters for them to write-in the votes. From what I gathered, this is not unusual.

Those ballots started coming back in. 9 ballots were not placed in the secrecy envelope, so by law in PA they are tossed out. And again, the Trump campaign itself argued in favor of this law. Now, there definitely appears to be some record keeping issues with the election office and that should be investigated. It's also certainly possible an election office staff member opened those ballots and tossed them out, but that seems less likely. I also read that the ballot mailng envelope and the envelope for absentee applications look exactly alike. The DOJ itself said the envelopes were opened in due course, which I took to mean they were opened legitimately. When they opened 9 of them, the ballots were not in the secrecy envelope.

Anyway, here's one of the articles I read. I also looked up some of the PA voting laws.

Local PA newspaper

Some background on naked ballots
Posted by Carlton
Good Cop/Bad Cop
Member since Feb 2016
11685 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 2:52 pm to
Looking into the vote totals in this case was crazy. These people are going to get serial killer sentences over the primary for a County Commissioner seat. She is going to need to call Kanye about getting a pardon .
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 3:16 pm to
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Forest also states that “this week, in the case of N.C. Alliance for Retired Americans, et al. v. N.C. State Board of Elections, et al. the Democratic Attorney General and the Democratic-controlled Board of Elections entered into a collusive agreement with the Democratic plaintiffs to enact, without the consent of the legislature, wholesale changes to the absentee ballot laws of North Carolina.



Uh, the decision was unanimous(5-0), including the 2 republican members on the board. They were present at the hours long meeting where the changes were discussed and they approved them. And the changes were to allow a few extra days to count absentee ballots - something several other states have done. And a court still has to approve the changes.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 4:01 pm to
The fact that we are having this discussion about voter fraud and a smooth transition of power tells me that the American form of government is on life support and both parties are fiddling with the plug. How are we any better than any 3rd world banana republic that we have ridiculed in the past or any former Soviet eastern European dictatorship if we can't have a legitimate election?

The left has shown they will stop at nothing to depose Trump. They are Machiavellian to the core in that the ends justify the means and if laws are broken or the Constitution trampled, oh well, collateral damage.

By the same token, if Donald J. Trump loses an authentic election and refuses to yield the office, I will be in the front of the line demanding he acquiesce or there will be a second American revolution.

The political gamesmanship by the ruling parties MUST stop for the good of this country or they will destroy it. And they don't care as long as their side wins. If we could do just one thing to improve the governing of this country, it would be to abolish the two party system and create some competition for the betterment of the country as a whole.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75855 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 4:06 pm to
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By the same token, if Donald J. Trump loses an authentic election and refuses to yield the office, I will be in the front of the line demanding he acquiesce or there will be a second American revolution.



I hope you honestly don't believe he would refuse to leave the White House if he lost.

That's totally ridiculous and something only a shill sky screamer would believe.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11455 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 4:22 pm to
Saint, I don't believe it, and neither should any person with 2 brain cells to rub together. I'm merely speaking to the mantra that one side keeps using as some twisted justification for their side ignoring any sort of respect for the office or the man occupying it. And truthfully, if Trump refused to leave office without a valid reason, he should be overthrown by any means necessary. But if it comes to that, I hope the American people use the opportunity to clean out the halls of Congress as well. There's to much rot in our government that needs eradicating.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24782 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 6:14 pm to
I will say it again.


We Are Still Waiting On The Transition Of Power From 2016.

What we got was an illegal spying campaign by a sitting president and presidential candidate that has been nothing short of a coup. I don't want to hear one word about respect for the office when the last admin has repeatedly used the FBI IRS & other government institutions against political opponents and on American citizens for political gain.

If that ain't dirty enough for you I don't know what is.


Posted by hwyman108
Member since Nov 2016
1568 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 6:36 pm to
This is all true. Let’s just say it for what it is. The Obama regime is the most corrupt and scandalous administration in this nations history

But nothing will happen to him and he knows it. But what’s really sad is that Biden is the best they have to offer. Obama basically called him a frick up. I’ll agree with him on that
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49682 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

The Massachusetts Attorney General has indicted two doctors on charges of criminal neglect in connection to the deaths of at least 76 veterans' home residents who died of the novel coronavirus.

Bennett Walsh, 50, and David Clinton, 71, were indicted by a state grand jury on Thursday in connection to their work at the Holyoke Soldiers' home in Massachusetts. Each man was indicted on five counts, specifically for charges including "wantonly or recklessly" permitting or causing bodily harm and mistreatment of an older or disabled individual.

State investigators zeroed in on the events of March 27, when staff at the facility combined two dementia wards containing patients with and without the novel illness. The facility was short staffed and made the decision to combine units containing 42 residents – some of whom had the virus and some of whom did not.

LINK
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11835 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 7:14 pm to
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The Lieutienent Governor of North Carolina, Daniel Forest


I will say as a resident here in NC anything coming from Forest I would take with a grain of salt.

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 7:35 pm to
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We Are Still Waiting On The Transition Of Power From 2016.


Well get your head out of the sand. It all happened on live TV. Barack and Michelle Obama welcomed Donald and Melanie Trump to the White House. They met. They went to the inauguration. They sat in the stage as Trump delivered his inauguration address. And all this was after Obama’s staff met day and night with Trumps transition team to ensure a peaceful transition.

Are you saying all this did not happen?
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