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Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:10 am to
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Who said anything about Hillary?


Well, when the discussion is about conceding an election, it is the losing candidate that concedes, not the party or some other member of that party. There was a concession to the 2016 election, and it came from the losing candidate. Whatever Nancy Pelosi may have said has nothing to do with that.


Speaking of, there is someone recently that hasn't conceded his loss. That person is Roy Moore.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75839 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:17 am to
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Well, when the discussion is about conceding an election, it is the losing candidate that concedes, not the party or some other member of that party. There was a concession to the 2016 election, and it came from the losing candidate. Whatever Nancy Pelosi may have said has nothing to do with that.


He said the Left, not Hillary. He's right and you know it. It's sad you can't just admit it.

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Speaking of, there is someone recently that hasn't conceded his loss. That person is Roy Moore.


Whatabout, whatabout, whatabout.

Again, just sad.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24653 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:17 am to
Saying and doing are 2 different things.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:18 am to
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I find it funny that educated people still fall for this kind of nonsense.



Sorry, I don't find the sitting president refusing to commit to one of the most basic functions of our government as nonsense, whether he is kidding or not. I'd rather take him at his word today then chalk it up as "nonsense" and have it play out in real time in January if he loses.

quote:

What exactly do people think he is going to do?




What he's doing now. Make unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud, work the courts to have legitimate ballots tossed out, call into question the integrity of our voting systems, etc. I'm not saying it will work, but I do think it would be damaging to our system of government.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:21 am to
quote:

He said the Left



I know what he said, and he used the wrong word if he meant the left. It is not the left's responsibility to concede an election. It is the candidate running for the seat that concedes.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75839 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:21 am to
quote:

Make unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud


quote:

HARRISBURG – On Monday, September 21, 2020, at the request of Luzerne County District Attorney Stefanie Salavantis, the Office of the United States Attorney along with the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Scranton Resident Office, began an inquiry into reports of potential issues with a small number of mail-in ballots at the Luzerne County Board of Elections.
Since Monday, FBI personnel working together with the Pennsylvania State Police have conducted numerous interviews and recovered and reviewed certain physical evidence. Election officials in Luzerne County have been cooperative. At this point we can confirm that a small number of military ballots were discarded. Investigators have recovered nine ballots at this time. Some of those ballots can be attributed to specific voters and some cannot. All nine ballots were cast for presidential candidate Donald Trump.



LINK

You might want to edit that word out.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:31 am to
The DOJ letter concerning that case makes no allegation of any wrongdoing, so no need to amend anything. The allegation is still unsubstantiated. Here's a statement from a DOJ representative yesterday, which points more to just a mistake in the election office than anything nefarious.

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“[O]ur investigation has revealed that all or nearly all envelopes received in the elections office were opened as a matter of course,” read the letter from Freed, addressed to Shelby Watchilla, the director of elections for Luzerne County. “It was explained to investigators the envelopes used for official overseas, military, absentee and mail-in ballot requests are so similar, that the staff believed that adhering to the protocol of preserving envelopes unopened would cause them to miss such ballot requests.”
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75839 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:35 am to
I guess it's just a coincidence every single one of them was for Trump, huh?

Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:39 am to
Where is the substantiation that the incident was intentional to throw votes out? There certainly isn't one in the DOJ press release, or the in their letter to the elections office.

So again, this story is going to be amplified as some mass conspiracy to cast doubt on the election system. Over 9 ballots in a large county. Which just supports my point.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24653 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 9:44 am to
Those were just the ones that were found. 1 is too many and this exhibits the lengths to which people are willing to go just to hurt Trump and the Replublicans.

The left is dirty as frick no matter how much you deny it.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:07 am to
I actually agree that any ballot getting tossed out and not being counted is concerning. When it happens though, there isn't always something nefarious going on. In reading the DOJ letter, and their follow up statement from yesterday, it looks like this was just a mistake by someone in the office because the ballot envelope is very similar to the absentee application envelope. Once the actual ballot is opened, the ballot is tainted, because the law there specifies those ballots cannot be opened until 7AM on election day.

So at this point, my point remains that the allegation of fraud is unsubstantiated. But it isn't going to stop you guys and the president from amplifying as some mass conspiracy to take him down.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22514 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:10 am to
Republicans think the democrats will try to steal the election. Democrats think Trump will definitely not concede if Biden is declared winner. So both have similar sentiments about each other as usual.

It’s a good chance we don’t know who the winner will be by the end of election night. Maybe Trump will projected winner at first but Biden will end up winning. Or Biden winner at first but turns out Trump really won. Accusations of cheating will increase. Chaos will erupt. shite show of epic proportions.

Once again, I want this year to be over with.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24653 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:27 am to
quote:

Greg Abbott
@GregAbbott_TX
A Gregg County Texas commissioner & 3 others were arrested today on election fraud charges.

The Commissioner was indicted on 23 felonies, including election fraud & fraudulent use of vote-by-mail ballots as part in an alleged vote-harvesting scheme.
quote:

Jim Hoft
@gatewaypundit
TEXAS: Gregg County Commissioner and Three Others Arrested in Connection to Organized Ballot-Harvesting Scheme During 2018 Democrat Primary


People have given their lives for the right to vote in this country and we must protect that right at all costs.
Posted by Cobrasize
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2013
49680 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:28 am to
quote:

Cows produce tons of methane, which I believe is a greenhouse gas.

So we need to do the world a favor and eat more cows! Save the planet, eat steak!!!
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
18302 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:33 am to
We need to return to the Articles of Confederation or something like it. Folks are delusional if they think one side is going to be fine with the other side deciding things for them. A 52%-48% victory isn't anything to brag about.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:38 am to
quote:

Where is the substantiation that the incident was intentional to throw votes out? There certainly isn't one in the DOJ press release, or the in their letter to the elections office.


7 of the 9 ballots were Trump ballots. 2 were not. Those two were placed back in their envelopes in a clear bid to have those votes counted. Do we need to draw you a map?
This post was edited on 9/25/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:47 am to
That doesn't substantiate anything.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 10:54 am to
quote:

That doesn't substantiate anything.


Posted by SECFan413
Cookeville,TN
Member since Jan 2009
965 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:01 am to
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What he's doing now. Make unsubstantiated claims of voter fraud, work the courts to have legitimate ballots tossed out, call into question the integrity of our voting systems, etc. I'm not saying it will work, but I do think it would be damaging to our system of government.


Again, you sound ridiculous to even suggest that that could work.

The system of checks and balances is in place to prevent that very thing. If one man can manipulate it that bad, then our government needs to be blown up and restarted. Or you could look at things from a realist point of view, which is that no matter how bad Biden would be, neither Trump nor the Republican party is going to turn the country on its head just to keep him in power.

Again, educated people who fear Trump's rhetoric are exaclty why he patronizes them and makes them look silly. And probably why he will win re-election.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22514 posts
Posted on 9/25/20 at 11:07 am to
But Spleen is still certain Trump trashed military veterans, even though there’s no actual evidence, because “it’s something he would do”.
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