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re: Alabama Basketball Recruiting and Offseason Talk

Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:21 am to
Posted by mrbroker
Sylacauga Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:21 am to
I think the NCAA has known this for a while but did not have subpoena power to do anything about it. The FBI does and they will use info gathered by the FBI to hit universities who are mentioned along with the players and coaches who took and gave money.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:50 am to
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His brother and sister aren't his dad. I doubt Cam's dad told Cams brother about taking money for example


This. And the fact that Sexton went to Bama for Avery isn't in question. That's the annoying part. Everyone on Twitter is like "they paid to get Sexton" when that isn't what the story is about at all. He was already an incoming freshman at this point.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 7:51 am
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:52 am to



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This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 7:54 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37845 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 7:59 am to
Everyone has known about this for awhile

Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56515 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:01 am to
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His brother and sister aren't his dad. I doubt Cam's dad told Cams brother about taking money for example

Also it is in their interest to claim him eligible so doesn't matter what they say



Pretty much what I was thinking. : /
Posted by Brodeur
Member since Feb 2012
4691 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:34 am to
Theres no way Avery didn't know Kobie was meeting with Collin's father, right?

I think it goes deeper than just Kobie, but who knows if they'll be able to prove it.

I'm close to being done with the University of Alabama just in general. Most of the people running the show are sleazy douchebags who think they are beyond reproach.

Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13239 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:41 am to
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There's no way Avery didn't know Kobie was meeting with Collin's father, right?


I think there is. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this occurred after Sexton had come here. There wouldn't be much reason for Avery to be in contact with Sexton's dad after the recruitment process.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13239 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:45 am to
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If we get hammered 


I'm not very worried about this right now. The most likely negative is Sexton being declared ineligible. They don't anything that would justify major sanctions yet. All we know is that Kobie Baker arranged a meeting between Sexton's dad and a financial advisor.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:46 am to
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I think there is. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this occurred after Sexton had come here. There wouldn't be much reason for Avery to be in contact with Sexton's dad after the recruitment process.


Bingo. We're golden as far as it comes to plausible deniability. Why would Avery care if Sexton was already an incoming freshman? As far as this story is concerned, Sexton's eligibility is the biggest worry. They don't have anything yet, but if they can prove the exchange of money then Sexton's eligibility is toast.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 8:48 am
Posted by Bamafan15
Member since Jan 2016
6820 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:51 am to
I'm just passing along info anytime I get any, so here's something else I heard. A pretty good poster on TI said that the 10k given to Kobie was for Kobie's services but no money ever made it to the Sexton's. If it had made it that far, it would've been the same deal as Chuck Person's situation. That's why Kobie was fired but not arrested
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
13987 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 8:52 am to
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I'm not very worried about this right now. The most likely negative is Sexton being declared ineligible. They don't anything that would justify major sanctions yet. All we know is that Kobie Baker arranged a meeting between Sexton's dad and a financial advisor.

That's the big question. If Sexton's family took money from Baker, then his eligibility is gone and the program is basically at the mercy of the NCAA. It would be indistinguishable from the Person case, except that it was an associate AD rather than an associate head coach funneling money to players.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
16163 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:08 am to
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If Sexton's family took money from Baker, then his eligibility is gone and the program is basically at the mercy of the NCAA. It would be indistinguishable from the Person case, except that it was an associate AD rather than an associate head coach funneling money to players.


We'd still be in a better position than Auburn. Sexton's never played for Bama and the payments weren't part of his recruitment.

Our biggest NCAA exposure is probably the loss of Sexton as a player.
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13239 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:14 am to
If Sexton ends up ineligible, we'd have to be the first team to have a former commit get drafted in the first round in consecutive years without ever playing a game of college basketball.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22584 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:16 am to
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I just don't see how it won't get proven. His brother made it look even more shady by deleting his tweets. The FBI may not get more involved, but you can expect the NCAA to be all over this.


Because the NCAA can't prove shite on their own. Never have been able to, never will. The only way they could prove anything on this particular matter is if the FBI's star witness squealed to the NCAA after all this, and there's less than a zero percent chance of that happening.
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:16 am to
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I doubt Cam's dad told Cams brother about taking money for example


But Cam's dad didn't take money. He just talked about it and strongly considered it before making the decision for Cam to go to AU and letting him know by simply telling Cam "It's Auburn".
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22584 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:17 am to
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After reading the affidavit. It makes sense from Bama Compliance point of view that this is one possible scenario:

1.) UA Comp Dept. confirmed that Staff Member 1 = Kobie.
2.) Reached out to Sexton Family for info. Sexton family said nothing happened.
3.) Forces Kobie to resign
4.) Release statement saying: Our review has not identified any NCAA or SEC rules violations nor the involvement of any other coach or staff member. We have notified both of the governing bodies of the actions we have taken. As always, we will continue to be proactive in our compliance efforts.”
5.) Plausible Deniability


This is definitely a scenario we can stand by.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:18 am to
Well, the FBI, apparently, didn't find that any money was paid to Sexton's dad. And the NCAA is too inept to find out either way. So, unless things change, I think we're fine. I'm just hoping nothing changes.

Edit* I should have refreshed my page. I see this was covered already.

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Because the NCAA can't prove shite on their own. Never have been able to, never will. The only way they could prove anything on this particular matter is if the FBI's star witness squealed to the NCAA after all this, and there's less than a zero percent chance of that happening.
This post was edited on 9/28/17 at 9:20 am
Posted by TomRollTideRitter
Member since Aug 2016
13239 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:18 am to
Surely with practice starting tomorrow we'll get a press conference soon, and I don't want just "no comment" answers.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:40 am to
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Because the NCAA can't prove shite on their own. Never have been able to, never will. The only way they could prove anything on this particular matter is if the FBI's star witness squealed to the NCAA after all this, and there's less than a zero percent chance of that happening.


I'm praying that's the case, but this is Alabama Basketball we're talking about. ALWAYS expect the worst.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
6060 posts
Posted on 9/28/17 at 9:41 am to
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I don't want just "no comment" answers


I think you're going to be disappointed.
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