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Alabama Basketball : Where we are today and possible outcomes
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:35 pm
Alright, so I figured I'd make this it's own thread. Here is where we are and then I'll list some "what if" scenarios to give an idea of where we'd be numbers wise if that were to occur.
Alabama Crimson Tide (14-7, 5-3)
RPI : #29
EloChess : #29
KenPom : #55
ESPN BPI : #52
Strength of Schedule : #10
Record vs RPI Groups : 3-2 vs #1, 5-4 vs #2, 4-1 vs #3, 2-0 vs #4
SEC Standings : T3 w/ Tennessee/Kentucky
Best Wins : #5 Auburn, #9 Rhode Island, #10 Oklahoma, #37 Texas A&M
Worst Losses : @ #123 Vanderbilt, #107 Minnesota, @ #84 Ole Miss, #71 UCF
Future Scenarios
#1 - Win out at home, lose out on road
Record : 19-12 (10-8)
RPI : #29
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Florida
Losses : @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
#2 - Win out at home, steal MSU on the road
Record : 20-11 (11-7)
RPI : #20
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Florida
Losses : @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
#3 - Lose all tossups/underdog games
Record : 16-15 (7-11)
RPI : #60
SOS : #5
Wins : Missouri, LSU,
Losses : @ MSU, Tennessee, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida, Arkansas
#4 - Lose all but 1 tossups/underdog games
Record : 17-14 (8-10)
RPI : #51
SOS : #5
Wins : Missouri, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ MSU, Tennessee, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida
#5 - Beat Missouri/LSU and split Tennessee/Arkansas/Florida/@ MSU
Record : 19-12 (10-8)
RPI : #31
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida
#6 - Same as above but only beat Arkansas/@ MSU
Record : 18-13 (9-9)
RPI : #41
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ Florida, Tennessee, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida
So, basically, we are looking at finishing anywhere (probably) between 17-14 (8-10) and 20-11 (11-7), which would put us between #20 and #51 in the RPI as the range we can reasonably expect to finish.
Here are some interesting stats on at-large bids to the Tournament since they added the play-in games
Highest RPI Ranked Teams (Big Six Conferences) to miss the NCAA Tournament since the play-in game was added
2014 Missouri (#49)
Lowest RPI Ranked Teams (Big Six + MWC Conferences) to make the NCAA Tournament since the play-in game was added
2011 Clemson (#61)
2011 USC (#80)
2012 South Florida (#51)
2014 NC State (#54)
2015 Ole Miss (#57)
2016 Vanderbilt (#60)
2016 Michigan (#58)
2017 Providence (#55)
2017 Kansas State (#55)
Teams with a Top 50 RPI do not miss the NCAAT. Our worst case scenario (reasonably) has us right at that #50 line.
So...............bottom line, we're in pretty good shape.
Alabama Crimson Tide (14-7, 5-3)
RPI : #29
EloChess : #29
KenPom : #55
ESPN BPI : #52
Strength of Schedule : #10
Record vs RPI Groups : 3-2 vs #1, 5-4 vs #2, 4-1 vs #3, 2-0 vs #4
SEC Standings : T3 w/ Tennessee/Kentucky
Best Wins : #5 Auburn, #9 Rhode Island, #10 Oklahoma, #37 Texas A&M
Worst Losses : @ #123 Vanderbilt, #107 Minnesota, @ #84 Ole Miss, #71 UCF
Future Scenarios
#1 - Win out at home, lose out on road
Record : 19-12 (10-8)
RPI : #29
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Florida
Losses : @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
#2 - Win out at home, steal MSU on the road
Record : 20-11 (11-7)
RPI : #20
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas, Florida
Losses : @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
#3 - Lose all tossups/underdog games
Record : 16-15 (7-11)
RPI : #60
SOS : #5
Wins : Missouri, LSU,
Losses : @ MSU, Tennessee, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida, Arkansas
#4 - Lose all but 1 tossups/underdog games
Record : 17-14 (8-10)
RPI : #51
SOS : #5
Wins : Missouri, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ MSU, Tennessee, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida
#5 - Beat Missouri/LSU and split Tennessee/Arkansas/Florida/@ MSU
Record : 19-12 (10-8)
RPI : #31
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida
#6 - Same as above but only beat Arkansas/@ MSU
Record : 18-13 (9-9)
RPI : #41
SOS : #3
Wins : Missouri, @ MSU, LSU, Arkansas
Losses : @ Florida, Tennessee, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M, Florida
So, basically, we are looking at finishing anywhere (probably) between 17-14 (8-10) and 20-11 (11-7), which would put us between #20 and #51 in the RPI as the range we can reasonably expect to finish.
Here are some interesting stats on at-large bids to the Tournament since they added the play-in games
Highest RPI Ranked Teams (Big Six Conferences) to miss the NCAA Tournament since the play-in game was added
2014 Missouri (#49)
Lowest RPI Ranked Teams (Big Six + MWC Conferences) to make the NCAA Tournament since the play-in game was added
2011 Clemson (#61)
2011 USC (#80)
2012 South Florida (#51)
2014 NC State (#54)
2015 Ole Miss (#57)
2016 Vanderbilt (#60)
2016 Michigan (#58)
2017 Providence (#55)
2017 Kansas State (#55)
Teams with a Top 50 RPI do not miss the NCAAT. Our worst case scenario (reasonably) has us right at that #50 line.
So...............bottom line, we're in pretty good shape.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Good stuff here George
Famous last words before the inevitable collapse for every Bama fan
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.......bottom line, we're in pretty good shape.
Famous last words before the inevitable collapse for every Bama fan
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:45 pm to Bryant91092
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Famous last words before the inevitable collapse for every Bama fan
Remember in 2016 when we were 16-9 and coming off of back to back wins in Gainesville and Baton Rouge? We were in good shape.
Then we lost 4 of 5
Posted on 1/28/18 at 12:50 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Remember in 2003 when we were 11-1 and ranked in the Top 10? We were in good shape.
Then we finished the year 6-10 and lost in the 1st round of the NCAAT
Then we finished the year 6-10 and lost in the 1st round of the NCAAT
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:07 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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bottom line,
we better not lose to fricking Missouri
Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:08 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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we better not lose to fricking Missouri

Posted on 1/28/18 at 1:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'm going with #5, but anticipate #6 just because Alabama basketball knows how to toy with my emotions.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Worst Losses : @ #123 Vanderbilt, #107 Minnesota, @ #84 Ole Miss, #71 UCF
I wouldn't say that.. we nearly won that game...
I wouldn't say that.. we nearly won that game...
Posted on 1/28/18 at 2:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
#5 is most likely and I will take it.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:01 pm to Panthers4life
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I wouldn't say that.. we nearly won that game...
It's a sub-100 loss.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:02 pm to mistaken4193
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#5 is most likely and I will take it.
I think if we finished with 19 wins, a winning SEC record and a #30 RPI, we'd be sitting in #7-9 seed territory, depending on performance in the SECT.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:25 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Alabama has put together National Championship Calibre teams before.
It can be done at Bama.
Both C.M. and Wimp did it. I could name the teams but everyone knows which ones.
I think Avery can to. And with a little luck, something C.M. and Wimp never had, he’ll be the one to get us to the final four and beyond.
But Bama basketball isn’t Bama Football. Running Avery off too soon would be a huge mistake. It wasn’t Avery who ruined our brand.
And we once were a respected program, believe it or not.
It can be done at Bama.
Both C.M. and Wimp did it. I could name the teams but everyone knows which ones.
I think Avery can to. And with a little luck, something C.M. and Wimp never had, he’ll be the one to get us to the final four and beyond.
But Bama basketball isn’t Bama Football. Running Avery off too soon would be a huge mistake. It wasn’t Avery who ruined our brand.
And we once were a respected program, believe it or not.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 3:59 pm to River_City_Tider
I still go my NIT hat on just saying...
Jimmy Buffet
Ah, the stories we could tell
And if it all blows up and goes to Hell
I wish that we could sit upon a bed in some motel
Just listen to the stories we could tell
Jimmy Buffet
Ah, the stories we could tell
And if it all blows up and goes to Hell
I wish that we could sit upon a bed in some motel
Just listen to the stories we could tell
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:15 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I’m thinking we drop one at home, win @msu, and lose the rest of the road games
Posted on 1/28/18 at 4:38 pm to SummerOfGeorge
All we gotta win is 4 more games. 4 fricking games and we're in.
This post was edited on 1/28/18 at 4:39 pm
Posted on 1/28/18 at 5:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I am trying real hard to keep the faith bros but every time I feel good about basketball we collapse. I won't be getting my hopes up yet but if we beat mizzou the faith will get a little stronger.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Whoa. Whoa. Whoa. Way too many words. At first I was like, "What?" Then I was like, "Huh." Then I got a little board.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:19 pm to Bryant91092
Yeah I am like a dog who has been kicked too many times
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:24 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I think if we finished with 19 wins, a winning SEC record and a #30 RPI, we'd be sitting in #7-9 seed territory, depending on performance in the SECT.
Completely agree. Any combination of wins from here to the end that gets us to 19-12 & 10-8 will put us solidly in the field. If the team plays up to potential, it's a goal that can be achieved without heroics.
Posted on 1/28/18 at 6:26 pm to LovetheLord
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Then I got a little board.
Wood, plastic or message?
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