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re: 2017-18 Alabama Basketball Season Thread: 20-16 (10-11)
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:40 pm to BigBird09
Posted on 1/14/18 at 7:40 pm to BigBird09
Avery is trying to do something this year that only calipari has been adept at and that's win with a freshman core, and a few sophomores. We probably should be 13-4 but I think the team may be starting to come around. He inherited a program that had failed at player development and turned retin obasohan into an all sec player and look at how well hall has developed, so I don't buy the "can't coach" crowd. And as mentioned before the Dallas roster didn't have alot of star power and they would probably gotten that title if dwade just doesn't go bonkers game 3-6. He can clearly recruit and I think he's learning how to make in game adjustments.
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:08 am to Bamainva40
Don't underestimate the mental challenges that those youn kids are facing right now. Sexton in particular is just now having to adjust to facing players that can actually push him. In high school he never would have had to work that hard now he does.
There are still great opportunities on the table so If they step up to the challenge, it can still be a really nice season.
There are still great opportunities on the table so If they step up to the challenge, it can still be a really nice season.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:35 am to Bamainva40
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Avery is trying to do something this year that only calipari has been adept at
Seriously man? You were the one saying 13-5, 12-6 "at least" , that Alabama had no real competition in SEC and other BS. Your pump is what is causing frustration
Alabama has a lot of "potential" on the roster, guys who could be great in their careers, but only Sexton/Hall are at that level now.
Youve acted all year like Bama could match up position by position with Duke who has 5 Sexton caliber recruits
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turned retin obasohan into an all sec player
It's like no one realizes that Retin scored >10+ points in his final 11/12 Grant games.
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look at how well hall has develope
Now this is actually very fair example. This has been impressive
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think he's learning how to make in game adjustments.
I believe people are upset that a guy with years of HC experience has to learn something as basic as "in game adjustments"
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 9:39 am
Posted on 1/15/18 at 9:44 am to GenesChin
what will the AU-UA line be, AU -3.5?
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:01 am to McGregor
If Hall was back I'd think closer to 1.5
The only way Id see it higher than 3.5 is because of end of game FTs.
The only way Id see it higher than 3.5 is because of end of game FTs.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:05 am to McGregor
I'm just taking things one game at a time, hoping things improve.
Winning at LSU was nice. However, we have to win the next 2 home games with the stretch coming up after. And, considering how well Auburn is playing and us missing Donta, that's a tall task.
Winning at LSU was nice. However, we have to win the next 2 home games with the stretch coming up after. And, considering how well Auburn is playing and us missing Donta, that's a tall task.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 10:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm just taking things one game at a time
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However, we have to win the next 2 home games with the stretch coming up after.
It's tough sometimes.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:20 am to TomRollTideRitter
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It's tough sometimes.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
DAMN IT
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
In keeping with my 1 game at a time lie, here is a look at our possible future RPI.......(using RPIWizard)
Let's go ahead and work with these as constants. Knowing this team, nothing is given, so I'm not saying we are 100% going to win/lose these games, but we have to narrow it down to a few variables.
WINS - vs MSU, vs LSU
LOSSES - @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn
That leaves the following "toss up" games - Auburn, @ Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida, @ Texas A&M
Obviously this won't all be perfect, but the RPIs at this point have kind of a standard deviation for every team and league's RPIs are pretty close to locked in. Anyway, let's give it a while.
#1 - Bama gets rolling
WINS - vs Auburn, vs MSU, @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, vs Missouri, @ MSU, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas, vs Florida
LOSSES - @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
21-10 (12-6)
#16 RPI
#3 SOS
#2 - Good at home, bad on the road, loss to OU
WINS - vs Auburn, vs MSU, vs Missouri, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas, vs Florida
LOSSES - @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
18-13 (10-8)
#39 RPI
#3 SOS
#3 - Lose road games, split home games, puke
WINS - vs MSU, vs Missouri, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas,
LOSSES - vs Auburn, @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, vs Florida, @ Texas A&M
16-15 (8-10)
#58 RPI
#3 SOS
Let's go ahead and work with these as constants. Knowing this team, nothing is given, so I'm not saying we are 100% going to win/lose these games, but we have to narrow it down to a few variables.
WINS - vs MSU, vs LSU
LOSSES - @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn
That leaves the following "toss up" games - Auburn, @ Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Missouri, @ MSU, Tennessee, Arkansas, Florida, @ Texas A&M
Obviously this won't all be perfect, but the RPIs at this point have kind of a standard deviation for every team and league's RPIs are pretty close to locked in. Anyway, let's give it a while.
#1 - Bama gets rolling
WINS - vs Auburn, vs MSU, @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, vs Missouri, @ MSU, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas, vs Florida
LOSSES - @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
21-10 (12-6)
#16 RPI
#3 SOS
#2 - Good at home, bad on the road, loss to OU
WINS - vs Auburn, vs MSU, vs Missouri, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas, vs Florida
LOSSES - @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, @ Texas A&M
18-13 (10-8)
#39 RPI
#3 SOS
#3 - Lose road games, split home games, puke
WINS - vs MSU, vs Missouri, vs Tennessee, vs LSU, vs Arkansas,
LOSSES - vs Auburn, @ Ole Miss, vs Oklahoma, @ MSU, @ Florida, @ Kentucky, @ Auburn, vs Florida, @ Texas A&M
16-15 (8-10)
#58 RPI
#3 SOS
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:40 am to SummerOfGeorge
I said 13-5 or 12-6 would be possible not a definite, plus it was a guess. Bama does have talent but obviously that guarantees anything. Grant was a great defensive coach but his offense was like watching paint dry and he never let his talent loose. Avery doesn't struggle with simple adjustments ,it's more with finding a lineup that consistently can work. Nba is different from college in a lot of ways so he's still learning what works best strategically.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
So we've got to defend home court for sure. The good news is that I think we can win @ the Mississippi schools, so we may be able to get away with a loss or two. I think we get in with scenario two if we win our first conference tournament game.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:00 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:51 am to Bamainva40
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it's more with finding a lineup that consistently can work
It is year 3, lineup adjustments shouldn't be that hard. Hell, I could do it for a healthy lineup
PG- Sexton
SG- Dazon (backup PG)
SF - Key/Herbie
C- Giddens/Smith/Reese
C - Hall
6th Man- Petty (25-30minutes)
Guy who should never Play- AJ Jr
Give up this bullshite "buckle up" nonsense, run a pick and roll offense and play two rim protectors at all times, you have the bodies
Only 3 maybe 4 SEC teams can shoot 3s well enough to even give then a chance against that lineup. This is a 22W lineup easy
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 11:53 am
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:51 am to TomRollTideRitter
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So we've got to defend home court for sure. The good news is that I think we can win @ the Mississippi, so we may be able to get away with a loss or too. I think we get in with scenario two if we win our first conference tournament game.
The good news is, unlike past years when the league sucked and we sucked in the OOC, it is all out in front of us.
The bad news, it is all out in front of us because the league is really good and we have a hard as hell schedule.
Just win baby (please, please just win).
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:53 am to GenesChin
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Guy who should never Play- AJ Jr
There is a hero among us..........
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:55 am to TomRollTideRitter
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good news is that I think we can win @ the Mississippi,
You never know what you're going to get from a Miss game. While they are beatable, I'd worry about the amount of zone they play. They are the highest % zone team most years
Not sure if Bama has the shooters to shoot them out of it nor the inside post lob game if Donta isn't healthy
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:58 am to GenesChin
We also regularly lose at Ole Miss. Granted, most of it was at the Tad Pad, but it's gotta be close to Memorial Gym for worst road record of the last 20 years.
Gottfried used to regularly go in there with a Top 20 team and lose by 20+ to a 17-15, NIT type Ole Miss team.
Gottfried used to regularly go in there with a Top 20 team and lose by 20+ to a 17-15, NIT type Ole Miss team.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:01 pm to GenesChin
No kidding man. With a bunch of roster turnover and new faces it's understandable that it'll take a minute to get your rotation down, but not until fricking mid-January. Even getting Key back mid-season should not take 5+ games to adjust to. Avery wants to play an NBA style and keep his kid on the court as much as he can, but this roster is not built for those things. We have guards who can drive to the basket and bigs who are alright around the rim, but we don't have shooters or a reliable stretch 4. And we definitely don't have the talent to play 4 on 5 for the 10-15 minutes Jr. is on the court every game.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:01 pm to GenesChin
Meant to put Mississippi schools. Also spelled two too in there. Just all around terrible boarding from me.
Anyways, yeah Ole Miss will be tough. All I'm saying is it's a winnable game like Miss State.
Anyways, yeah Ole Miss will be tough. All I'm saying is it's a winnable game like Miss State.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:02 pm to Robot Santa
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And we definitely don't have the talent to play 4 on 5 for the 10-15 minutes Jr. is on the court every game.
HOW DARE YOU JR. MADE A 3-POINTER LAST GAME. HE'S ESSENTIAL.
Posted on 1/15/18 at 12:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I'd love to know what his +/- is for the season. Maybe it's not as bad as I think, but I doubt it. He has no business getting serious minutes at a high-major program. He'd be, at best, a 6th man type at most mid-majors.
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