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Andy Kennedy is the worst
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:01 am
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:01 am
That is all.
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Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:55 am to sorantable
The bar was set so low it's hard for him not to improve.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 9:58 am to sorantable
One of the 24 win teams that was left out of the tournament had a losing record in conference play.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:02 am to POCKET
I'm pretty torn on AK. On one hand, he gets us good talent and wins us a decent amount of games.
But, every time we play, it is like we have no game plan. It looks like we are playing a pick up game at the Turner Center.
And then, you know, never making the tournament too. I think we have to give him 1 more year.
But, every time we play, it is like we have no game plan. It looks like we are playing a pick up game at the Turner Center.
And then, you know, never making the tournament too. I think we have to give him 1 more year.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:04 am to Billy Esquire
I honestly don't know if we should get rid of him, but his teams are frustrating to watch.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:32 am to SwayzeBalla
^^^this^^^
Posted on 2/28/13 at 10:55 am to sorantable
You know what I see?
A shite ton of losing/even conference records while still finishing in the top 4 in the West (yeah, yeah, 4 of 6, but still) as well as T1st-W with his only winning record (9-7 mind you).
To me, that means he's been fielding teams in the worst stretch of SEC basketball play (outside of UK and UF) ever imagined and he couldn't get it done, one time. Not one time. Not ONE, SINGLE, frickING, TIME.
And we were snubbed by the selection committee because of how we shite the bed late in the season, period, end of story. You don't get invited to a one and done tourney when you CONSISTENTLY collapse under bubble pressure.
The bottomline is that AK has amassed these wins by scheduling a piss poor OOC slate, recruiting athletes instead of basketball players and competing in a historically shitty SEC. It's not a feat with which to be impressed. 20 wins is not difficult with athletes playing a soft OOC schedule and averaging below .500 in the SEC. It's just not.
If you had given an actual basketball coach the talent that AK's had over the past 5 or 6 seasons (knee-gate year thrown out) we would have been to the tourney a minimum of 3 times and I'd wager runs into the S16 at least once. BEST case scenario, we'd have been dancing 4 or 5 times and been to the E8 at least once and S16 three times.
It's time for OM fans to STOP focusing on history. No other fan base does it. Bigtime SEC programs (in any sport) do not keep coaches around because of what they did 5 or 10 years ago. They keep coaches around that win, nothing more. If they stop winning, the get booted, simple as that.
If we want a big time Ath Dept and to compete in the SEC for Champs, we have GOT to adopt the same mentality as the big boys. frick THE PAST. Focus on today and tomorrow and keep bumping that bar north. 7-5 and a bowl every year is NOT good enough in football. 20 wins and NIT is NOT good enough in Basketball. Hosting a Regional or SR is NOT good enough in Baseball.
If the coaches that got us to those levels of achievement cannot get us to the NEXT level (within a reasonable time frame, setting that time fram is RB's job), get the frick out so we can get someone who CAN. Period.
A shite ton of losing/even conference records while still finishing in the top 4 in the West (yeah, yeah, 4 of 6, but still) as well as T1st-W with his only winning record (9-7 mind you).
To me, that means he's been fielding teams in the worst stretch of SEC basketball play (outside of UK and UF) ever imagined and he couldn't get it done, one time. Not one time. Not ONE, SINGLE, frickING, TIME.
And we were snubbed by the selection committee because of how we shite the bed late in the season, period, end of story. You don't get invited to a one and done tourney when you CONSISTENTLY collapse under bubble pressure.
The bottomline is that AK has amassed these wins by scheduling a piss poor OOC slate, recruiting athletes instead of basketball players and competing in a historically shitty SEC. It's not a feat with which to be impressed. 20 wins is not difficult with athletes playing a soft OOC schedule and averaging below .500 in the SEC. It's just not.
If you had given an actual basketball coach the talent that AK's had over the past 5 or 6 seasons (knee-gate year thrown out) we would have been to the tourney a minimum of 3 times and I'd wager runs into the S16 at least once. BEST case scenario, we'd have been dancing 4 or 5 times and been to the E8 at least once and S16 three times.
It's time for OM fans to STOP focusing on history. No other fan base does it. Bigtime SEC programs (in any sport) do not keep coaches around because of what they did 5 or 10 years ago. They keep coaches around that win, nothing more. If they stop winning, the get booted, simple as that.
If we want a big time Ath Dept and to compete in the SEC for Champs, we have GOT to adopt the same mentality as the big boys. frick THE PAST. Focus on today and tomorrow and keep bumping that bar north. 7-5 and a bowl every year is NOT good enough in football. 20 wins and NIT is NOT good enough in Basketball. Hosting a Regional or SR is NOT good enough in Baseball.
If the coaches that got us to those levels of achievement cannot get us to the NEXT level (within a reasonable time frame, setting that time fram is RB's job), get the frick out so we can get someone who CAN. Period.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:15 am to Fipitan
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The bottomline is that AK has amassed these wins by scheduling a piss poor OOC slate,
this is a common theme among people who are incredibly Anti-AK(not saying right or wrong)
I wish I saved the article because I can't find it on ESPN's search engine but Andy Katz wrote a great article late last Fall about how Andy Kennedy has perfected the OOC scheduling. They really gave him kudos on it.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:18 am to pankReb
I've heard commentators on tv say the same thing.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:25 am to sorantable
If I knew where he lived I would take a shite on his doorstep
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:35 am to pankReb
I give him credit for getting the schedule changed to benefit the program with more wins and a better looking record.
It was the right thing to do and the new coach should do the same. I'm a fan of a similar plan for football (not popular either).
However, that does not excuse him from the fact that his "ZOMG, MosT WinS EAvR!!!111!" title is manufactured and much less meaningful.
To sharpen my point. He did the right thing to make the schedule easier, he simply didn't do anything else to improve the program after that. Therefore, he ended up with the OM wins lead by default and NOT because he brought better, good or great basketball to OM.
In essence, he took a 15 win team (with a sub.500 conference record), rearranged the schedule and now that team is winning 20 games (still with a sub.500 conference record). Then, on top of that, he's had better talent and better coaches and he's STILL only winning 20 games and missing the tourney.
What should have happened was that he took a 15 win team, changed the schedule and made it a 20 win team. Then added more talent, making it a 22 win team. Then add great asst coaches, making it a 24 win team. Then add a great offensive and defensive game plan, making it a 26 win team. Then using that success to get MORE talent, making it a 28 win team.* And so on and so forth.
I'm not sure I'm accurately conveying my point so let me know if I need to work on it.
*of course, the order in which these pieces are added is not important. It's simply the fact that they should have been added period.
It was the right thing to do and the new coach should do the same. I'm a fan of a similar plan for football (not popular either).
However, that does not excuse him from the fact that his "ZOMG, MosT WinS EAvR!!!111!" title is manufactured and much less meaningful.
To sharpen my point. He did the right thing to make the schedule easier, he simply didn't do anything else to improve the program after that. Therefore, he ended up with the OM wins lead by default and NOT because he brought better, good or great basketball to OM.
In essence, he took a 15 win team (with a sub.500 conference record), rearranged the schedule and now that team is winning 20 games (still with a sub.500 conference record). Then, on top of that, he's had better talent and better coaches and he's STILL only winning 20 games and missing the tourney.
What should have happened was that he took a 15 win team, changed the schedule and made it a 20 win team. Then added more talent, making it a 22 win team. Then add great asst coaches, making it a 24 win team. Then add a great offensive and defensive game plan, making it a 26 win team. Then using that success to get MORE talent, making it a 28 win team.* And so on and so forth.
I'm not sure I'm accurately conveying my point so let me know if I need to work on it.
*of course, the order in which these pieces are added is not important. It's simply the fact that they should have been added period.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:47 am to Fipitan
I'm really hoping this team finds a way to win games down the stretch and makes the NCAA tourney... After the season ends , a "basketball" school hires AK away from us. Win/win situation
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:51 am to Fipitan
but we're currently 21-7 and 10-5 in the SEC with 3 conference games left plus the SEC Tourny. We should be set for 24-7 and 13-7 in conference play going into the tourny.
If we beat Bama, we move to 3rd in the conference.
We would get two days off to play the winner of SEC #6 vs (winner of SEC #11 vs #14).
The point I'm trying to convey is the majority of what you're saying should happen is happening this year.
If we beat Bama, we move to 3rd in the conference.
We would get two days off to play the winner of SEC #6 vs (winner of SEC #11 vs #14).
The point I'm trying to convey is the majority of what you're saying should happen is happening this year.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:51 am to reggierayreb
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I'm really hoping this team finds a way to win games down the stretch and makes the NCAA tourney... After the season ends , a "basketball" school hires AK away from us. Win/win situation
Agree. And you've added another metric to my argument. The fact that AK has never even been SNIFFED by a "basketball school" in his entire time at OM should provide additional evidence that he is simply not a very good coach. The Ath Dept staff at a "basketball school" would be much better at evaluating coaching talent than we are. If they saw something in AK that they liked (and therefore, expressed interest in him), it would validate the argument that AK is a good/great coach in a shitty environment and therefore he cannot win.
However, that has not happened.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:53 am to Fipitan
That has more to do with his arrest record than it does his coaching abilities.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:53 am to reggierayreb
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After the season ends , a "basketball" school hires AK away from us. Win/win situation
Why? You dislike AK because he can't get us in the tourny but you hope he gets us to the tourny so he'll leave?
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:54 am to sorantable
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That has more to do with his arrest record than it does his coaching abilities.
This. AD's don't want to take a chance on someone who has been arrested unless it's a proven fact he can get to the tourny.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 11:58 am to pankReb
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The point I'm trying to convey is the majority of what you're saying should happen is happening this year.
You have a good point. That's the reason I think he won't get dumped this year. I think he has enough of a case for improvement over previous achievement to get another year. The only way I see him getting dumped is if we lose out or lose 3 of our last 4.
For the record, I think we go 2-2 and win 1 in the SEC tourney and do NOT go dancing. And also ftr, I think we get another year of AK if that happens. And honestly, I think I'm ok with that because it will help us financially. Bjork won't feel pressure to extend AK's contract (no tourney, no extension) and we'll be kicking off a new arena by the time AK shits the bed at the end of next season. Allowing us to sell an up-and-coming candidate on "the full support and investment of the fans and Ath Dept" angle, ultimately resulting in a better hire.
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:02 pm to pankReb
Bjork probably isn't gonna fire AK at the end of the year, whether we dance or not... If we made the tourney and AK is hired away we could circumvent the division that would take place within our fanbase... Do you agree or disagree Pank ?
Posted on 2/28/13 at 12:03 pm to sorantable
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That has more to do with his arrest record than it does his coaching abilities.
I'm not so sure. We (OM fans) love to frick with him over the Int'l Incident, but he's been a choir boy (as far as the media and rest of the country is concerned) since then and in this day and age (fricking Petrino is already getting serious looks from schools) winning trumps almost everything else. If he had that "it" factor that a true basketball school wanted, we would have known about it by now, even if it was just some flirting and heavy petting at the Library.
Besides, it not like OM got sanctions or anything from his actions so it didn't REALLY hurt us.
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